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Do you know anybody who regularly watches Deal or No Deal?

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Originally posted by: Viper GTS
The public display of greed makes it watchable. I also love their horrible misrepresentation of odds. One case left on the board, you have a 50/50 shot! Makes me cringe every time I hear shit like that.

But the gree is what REALLY makes it worthwhile. Watching people turn down life changing money and getting next to nothing is priceless. Even if it's +EV to continue you don't get offers like that every day. Take the guaranteed rather than risk losing it all you dumb shit.

Viper GTS
That's also what makes it painful to watch, though.500k would make a huge change vs $1. But $1M would make only a decent change over $500k, at least for people who make, say, $50k/year. it's funny to watch them go on and on, granted, but the entire show should be compressed down to just the final couple of guesses. Then I'd watch it.

 
Is this the one with all the hot babes holding up numbers? I think I saw the last part of one episode, and thought "What the heck, that's it? I must have missed the hard questions earlier."
 
Originally posted by: BoomerD
Why does it always seem to be the Black people who have HUGE offers...and keep playing when it makes sense to take the money and run?
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Yes, it happens to white people too...(duh) but it seems like a higher percentage of Black people can't figure the odds.
I haven't watched enough to generate data on that type of issue. But there certainly may be a race issue at play. It is a well known phenomenon in courts. Whites generally take great plea bargains. Non-whites generally will gamble and turn down the great plea bargain. There is likely a cultural reason that some races turn down great deals and attempt for the extreme deals.
 
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
It is a fun show to watch, especially when there are people on who are bad at math.

"Ok, you have $100,000, $100, $200 and $300 left on the board. Do you take the money or do you pick any suit case????"

As a player the game is easy. As long as you have more than one big value left on the board you can keep going, but once you get down to one you take the offer and bail.

thats not bad at math, thats optimistic that the 100k is in their case. greed gets some people very optimistic. id probably do the same thing, since i went there without that 1 mil, going home without it wont be that big a change. may as well play it out and see what happens.
 
umm you need to redo the math.

With the example I gave the chances of you taking home the $100,000 are 1 in 24 (1/4 * 1/3 * 1/2)
You would be stupid to not take the $25,000 they will offer at that point and walk away.

Now if you had $100,000 and $50,000 on the board you can keep playing because one of those acts as an insurance policy that keeps the pool from dropping to nothing if you pick the other.

I saw a web site that had some really good stats on the number of players, how much they won, how much they should have won, what the average game should yield etc etc.
 
Originally posted by: tk149
Is this the one with all the hot babes holding up numbers? I think I saw the last part of one episode, and thought "What the heck, that's it? I must have missed the hard questions earlier."
No, you didn't. There are no hard questions.

 
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: tk149
Is this the one with all the hot babes holding up numbers? I think I saw the last part of one episode, and thought "What the heck, that's it? I must have missed the hard questions earlier."
No, you didn't. There are no hard questions.

The hardest question is "Deal...or NO Deal?"
 
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
umm you need to redo the math.

With the example I gave the chances of you taking home the $100,000 are 1 in 24 (1/4 * 1/3 * 1/2)

You would be stupid to not take the $25,000 they will offer at that point and walk away.
YOU need to redo the math, ProfJohn. You even contracticted yourself a bit in my quote above. If you truely had a 1 in 24 chance of winning $100k, why would they offer 25% of $100k?

The correct math is this:
1) You have a 3 in 4 chance of picking a low number the first time (picking low is a good thing).
2) You have a 2 in 3 chance of picking a low number the second time.
3) You have a 1 in 2 chance of picking a low number the third time you pick.
Thus, your overall chance of picking three low numbers in a row (ie winning the $100k) is 3/4 * 2/3 * 1/2 = 1/4. You have a 1 in 4 chance of getting $100k, not 1 in 24.

But, here is the crux. They don't offer $25,000 in that situation. If you were offered $25,000 (the expected value), then on average the contestant should take the $25,000 and walk away (as you mentioned). But, the game plays on the psychology of the audience. More people will watch tomorrow (ie more ad revenue) if the person doesn't take the deal. Thus, the TV station makes more money if the person doesn't take the deal. Thus, they don't offer $25,000. They offer something like $16,000. In which case, it is on average a far better deal to turn down the $16,000 and try for $100,000. If they offered $25,000, then Skoorb would be correct that this show isn't worth watching.
 
"I came to win $1m, so I'm going for it...NO DEAL!!"

I hear this so often. These losers lost before they even started.
 
Originally posted by: Jadow
I saw one situation like that where the guys fat disgusting wife kept telling him to not take the deal so he obliged and of course wound up with like nothing...

ahahahaha she knew if he won a lot of money he'd trade her in for a newer model
 
I just realized something. I've never seen an Asian contestant on that show! It's always white trash or black people or some mexican, but never Asian. That's racist!
 
Originally posted by: dullard
If they offered $25,000, then Skoorb would be correct that this show isn't worth watching.

I'm still not getting the appeal. From what I can gather, you find it entertaining because you enjoy watching people squirm under intentional psychological pressure? Or what? No matter what they are doing on this show, it's still a microscopic amount of useful content, and that content is thin anyway. You can get the same type of emotional anthropology by watching televised poker. There's more math formulas to contemplate, more psychological tension, and just more of anything that is remotely entertaining about deal or no deal.

 
Granted you can take all of the cases (data) and plot them on a normalized distribution, I'd figure out the dollar amount was for that curve and whenever the middle value came up, I'd settle. No point in being greedy IMO.
 
If they offered $25,000, then Skoorb would be correct that this show isn't worth watching.
They generally offer very close to the average of the amounts up there, though. I'd say rarely above 20% in the ones I saw in terms of variance from that and normally within 10%.
 
No it's awful. The only game show I like is Cash Cab or Jeopardy since I can play along. All the other ones drag out the suspense too much or are just idiotic.
 
Originally posted by: Mo0o
No it's awful. The only game show I like is Cash Cab or Jeopardy since I can play along. All the other ones drag out the suspense too much or are just idiotic.

Cash Cab is alright, but wow, those people high five a lot!
 
Originally posted by: jjsole
"I came to win $1m, so I'm going for it...NO DEAL!!"

I hear this so often. These losers lost before they even started.

Somehow, I figure that is why they were chosen to be on the show. 😛

I agree with the concept...1million versus 500K, or shit even 250K...its a lot of money, but I'm not going to be quiting my job in either situation. However, either one would make me a lot more comfortable though.

10K though. 10K isn't going to amount of jack shit of a difference really. What am I going to do? Buy a new Chevy aveo with that? I don't care if I get 1 million...my goal should be to not be that asshole leaving with 10K.
 
Originally posted by: PingSpike
Originally posted by: jjsole
"I came to win $1m, so I'm going for it...NO DEAL!!"

I hear this so often. These losers lost before they even started.

Somehow, I figure that is why they were chosen to be on the show. 😛

I agree with the concept...1million versus 500K, or shit even 250K...its a lot of money, but I'm not going to be quiting my job in either situation. However, either one would make me a lot more comfortable though.

10K though. 10K isn't going to amount of jack shit of a difference really. What am I going to do? Buy a new Chevy aveo with that? I don't care if I get 1 million...my goal should be to not be that asshole leaving with 10K.

I agree totally. I mean, you have to be stupid to take $10,000 home. Idiots... so you take home enough for a down payment on a house or a vacation in Europe. Pfffttt. You have to be a real loser to be satisfied with that!
 
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: PingSpike
Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Originally posted by: clamum
"Worse than Wheel of Fortune"? That show is the shit.

The Price is Right > *

The price is right is nothing without the giant wheel.

I thought it was still there? I watched an episode on Hulu a couple months ago and it was there...

I think he meant Bob Barker.

KT
 
Originally posted by: dullard
Hey. I like it. I watch it whenever I see that it is on.

Yes, the theory of the game is mindless. You just pick random numbers. But the show isn't about random numbers. It is about psychology. The bank's formula isn't just the average, the median, or the most likely outcome of the numbers left. Instead it is weighted to play on the psychology of the contestant and more importantly the viewers (ie the viewers want to see someone go the distance, so they lowball the offers in the beginning).

Watching extreme emotion from excitement to heartbreak and back repeatedly is quite interesting. Even watch the psychology of the contestant as he/she opens even a meaningless value in the briefcase; it can be so telling of that person's life and personality. Watch the sheer drive and greed. Watch the faces of the people who have no financial interest (in the audience for example). Watch as the game's formula twists and tries the contestant.

There is so much more too. If you don't see all of that behind the pure numbers, then maybe it is you who isn't intelligent enough for the show.

plus the hot chicks behind the briefcases.

Though I haven't really watched this show....I do know about the hot chicks.
 
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