Do you know any unemployed adults?

[OverVolt]

I can't think of anyone that's unemployed and most people I know that are struggling with improving their job situations it's usually their own fault. I could be doing better myself, but I don't blame anything but myself for that. If you're in a highly specialized field where there just aren't that many jobs to begin with, then your situation is different, but that still doesn't stop you from accepting a lesser job that you don't really want.

If I lost my job tomorrow, whether or not I could replace it immediately with something comparable or better might be debatable, but I could definitely walk into any number of less desirable jobs that would still be better than no job at all.

I've moved significant distances and found employment with no plan... Found employment in and out of cities, etc. I think a lot more is within our control than some people are willing to admit. But it's also true that many are simply in quite unfortunate circumstances..

And if you got sick and needed to be around your family after you moved around so much?

I get following the money, I get that there are options. But moving isn't free, and not just the dollars and cents but losing all your connections over & over again. I'm assuming no kids single income?

 

[SeaSerpent]

The company I was with sold and shut down in June. 17 years and 38 dollars an hour gone. Not employed, but I'm going back to college to be a drug and alcohol counselor.

 

[x26]

My friend's kid is underemployed, and needs my friend's help. I think there's a lot of people like that, which makes the statistics look better. Shittier jobs/fewer hours than desired, and early retirement. They're technically employed, or "officially" retired, but it isn't what they want.

^^ This ^^

9 out of 10 people I know are under-employed or early retirement because they cannot find "suitable" employment.

** The "New" economy.

 

[Carson Dyle]

People who work for themselves doing contract work (I've been there)... It's a little difficult to say if they're unemployed or not, but when you get by on jobs that take a couple days, or even big contracts taking months, then you spend six months out of the year networking and fishing for any work you can find, is that "unemployed" or not?

 

[saratoga172]

Yeah... I don't think that counts as "unemployed"

If you knew the situation you'd understand. Generally I'd agree as that's not an easy thing to do. She does nothing you'd expect a stay at home mom to do though. Has to have him bring him bring lunch home, can't get the kids ready to go anywhere, can't really handle them etc.

Said he got home one day and she was laying on the floor while the kid was crying because she couldn't handle it or some such.

I have the utmost respect for what moms do but she doesn't seem to do a lot of what you'd think.

 

[Rakehellion]

freelance on the web. we used upwork to find a designer for a mobile app i'm working on and he did a fantastic job. he was doing it just in his spare time too but he made $2000 off of us over a 1.5 month period of time. i know that's not really liveable, but as i said, it was just him doing it in his free time not full time, as he has a full time gig doing it. he lives in europe too and we're in the states (2 on east coast, 1 on west coast) so he doesn't even have to be in the same time zone.

i personally don't know any adults who are not employed that want to be.

A temporary gig is definitely not the same thing as employment.

 

[FerrelGeek]

Yep. An acquaintance of mine is an unemployed tech writer. Knew a few others that have been unemployed over the last few years. I was unemployed for 5 months 6 years ago. I have a friend that's working 4 jobs to just make ends meet and is nearly at the breaking point. I'll shut up now or this thread will have to be moved to P&N.

^^ This ^^

9 out of 10 people I know are under-employed or early retirement because they cannot find "suitable" employment.

** The "New" economy.

 

[LPCTech]

Im in the process changing jobs and I get nonstop offers. Im just being very picky. Most of them are too far away. I fix PCs and stuff and things etc. 😉

Seems like there are more jobs than people to take them again...you know after 8 years of democrat president, like it was in 1999.

Local economies are a little different and some states might be better than others job wise.

 

[waggy]

If you knew the situation you'd understand. Generally I'd agree as that's not an easy thing to do. She does nothing you'd expect a stay at home mom to do though. Has to have him bring him bring lunch home, can't get the kids ready to go anywhere, can't really handle them etc.

Said he got home one day and she was laying on the floor while the kid was crying because she couldn't handle it or some such.

I have the utmost respect for what moms do but she doesn't seem to do a lot of what you'd think.

being a stay at home parent is not for everyone. I know a few parents that have tried it to say fuck it and went back to work. Less stress, less work, etc at a real job.

Im in the process changing jobs and I get nonstop offers. Im just being very picky. Most of them are too far away. I fix PCs and stuff and things etc. 😉

Seems like there are more jobs than people to take them again...you know after 8 years of democrat president, like it was in 1999.

Local economies are a little different and some states might be better than others job wise.

UH HUH..except thats not true.

 

[squirrel dog]

numbers from the current administration have always been suspect , the real number is closer to 15~20 % . In some areas 20% + .

 

[x26]

The company I was with sold and shut down in June. 17 years and 38 dollars an hour gone. Not employed, but I'm going back to college to be a drug and alcohol counselor.

drug and alcohol counselor.

That's a Terrible choice for becoming gainfully employed--I know.

 

[Svnla]

Unemployed? No.

Underemployed? Yes.

If oil price is going to be this low, there will be a lot of unemployed people around this area very soon.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

I was out of work for about 4 months around 3 years ago, had to take the first thing that came along so the salary was garbage. After searching for the last year (almost exactly 365 days) I finally found a great job that I'm in the middle of relocating for. This was after maybe 600 applications in the northeastern US region.. very nonspecific. ~10% got callbacks, of those, ~25% got past HR, of those, only two gave offers that would actually make it worthwhile to move (less than 2 years to pay off the move expenses with the increased net salary). I was lucky that those came in at the same time though, so I could actually compare the two. While I haven't technically been unemployed, I've also just been treading water, and still fighting off the debt I incurred from what was accrued 3 years ago.

Beyond my own situation, I have a brother in law in a very specific field that basically mandates he works in one of like three cities, so he doesn't feel super secure about his options. Cousin has a law degree, currently 'employed' as an uber driver. Also know of a ton of people in my area that recently got laid off from a manufacturing plant; with any luck though they'll be getting hired back on within a few months, assuming they can wait it out.

Fun times all around.

 

[purbeast0]

A temporary gig is definitely not the same thing as employment.

freelancing can be a fulltime gig, i know a couple web devs that do it.

or you could just do it meanwhile looking for a job so that you aren't going to go homeless.

 

[LPCTech]

being a stay at home parent is not for everyone. I know a few parents that have tried it to say fuck it and went back to work. Less stress, less work, etc at a real job.


"Seems like there are more jobs than people to take them again...you know after 8 years of democrat president, like it was in 1999.

Local economies are a little different and some states might be better than others job wise."

UH HUH..except thats not true.

numbers from the current administration have always been suspect , the real number is closer to 15~20 % . In some areas 20% + .

yes it is, you simply refuse to admin Dem presidents are the ones who bring jobs and not republicans. Whenever a republican president is in office, the rich get richer, the poor get poorer and the economy tanks. Then a dem gets elected and fixes it. Repeat.

now that the unemployment rate is low, gas prices are low and the economy is fine... "the numbers are suspect" lol ok.

remember when High gas prices were "bad" and republicans blamed Obama? Now gas prices are low and its cuz of Obama and its a bad thing now. Or he had nothing to do with it right? but it was his fault they were high. right? lol

At the end of Clintons presidency I was tripping over jobs, all through Bush's could not get a job, about 6-7 years into Obama, tripping over jobs again.

In my field, in my state.

but think whatever you want.

 

[-slash-]

Not personally, but I see plenty walk through the door every day looking for a job (or proof they were "looking" for a job for the benefits). Unemployed a few as well.

 

[Thump553]

I know lots of unemployed and underemployed people. In fact, if you took out governmental employees, those intentionally self-employed, and housewives/househusbands, nearly every person I know over the age of 50 has been laid off from what appeared to be their lifetime job. The USA has changed a lot little more than a decade. For my parents' generation (WWII vets) to be laid off after age 50 would nearly always involve a criminal arrest, alcoholism drastically affecting job performance or sleeping with the boss's wife. Now it's a matter of downsizing and the corporations who do so are applauded rather than scorned.

 

[Chiropteran]

Going to be more soon...

Google Atlas robot (AUTO-PLAY VIDEO alert):
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/02/24/google-robot-is-the-end-of-manual-labor-vc.html

Yeah. The world is going to get worse, and then eventually better.

 

[Imp]

numbers from the current administration have always been suspect , the real number is closer to 15~20 % . In some areas 20% + .

Ya, I like Obummer, but I'm also pretty sure that the job market is nowhere near as good as the official stats. Even if the stats are accurate, there are probably a lot of Wal-mart and barista jobs included.

 

[Carson Dyle]

Ya, I like Obummer, but I'm also pretty sure that the job market is nowhere near as good as the official stats. Even if the stats are accurate, there are probably a lot of Wal-mart and barista jobs included.

Yes, the real percentages are much higher.

The simple fact is that there are millions of people who are unemployed and not reported. Maybe they're working, maybe they're selling weed or meth or heroin. Or they're working cash jobs under the table. When I was younger I did that for two or three years, never even filed a return. Construction, painting, moving, landscaping.

 

[clamum]

An uncle but he has been that way, more-or-less (besides short temp jobs here and there), for years. I ain't gonna get into details, not that I know a whole lot anyway. But he's the only person I know of personally.

 

[MiniDoom]

yes it is, you simply refuse to admin Dem presidents are the ones who bring jobs and not republicans. Whenever a republican president is in office, the rich get richer, the poor get poorer and the economy tanks. Then a dem gets elected and fixes it. Repeat.

now that the unemployment rate is low, gas prices are low and the economy is fine... "the numbers are suspect" lol ok.

remember when High gas prices were "bad" and republicans blamed Obama? Now gas prices are low and its cuz of Obama and its a bad thing now. Or he had nothing to do with it right? but it was his fault they were high. right? lol

At the end of Clintons presidency I was tripping over jobs, all through Bush's could not get a job, about 6-7 years into Obama, tripping over jobs again.

In my field, in my state.

but think whatever you want.

I'm curious which democratic policies led to these economic booms? or was it just the luck of the bubble? ie dot.com bubble, real estate, quantitative easing...

 

[Imp]

Yes, the real percentages are much higher.

The simple fact is that there are millions of people who are unemployed and not reported. Maybe they're working, maybe they're selling weed or meth or heroin. Or they're working cash jobs under the table. When I was younger I did that for two or three years, never even filed a return. Construction, painting, moving, landscaping.

Not to mention the outright lying... I had a technically unemployed period -- had other, not that small income sources -- and even when meeting a random Craigslist buyer, I danced around the "what do you do" question. Going to guess that other people do that too when being directly asked about employment status by a surveyor.

 

[KeithTalent]

Not to mention the outright lying... I had a technically unemployed period -- had other, not that small income sources -- and even when meeting a random Craigslist buyer, I danced around the "what do you do" question. Going to guess that other people do that too when being directly asked about employment status by a surveyor.

Yes, but these factors have always been in play no matter the party of the president. Not sure why all of a sudden the number is no good just because the president is from a different party; makes no sense to me.

The administration is always going to report the best number they can.

KT

 

[zinfamous]

Location is a big factor in unemployment. Not many unemployed in my area, although every time I watch Judge Judy it seems like everyone on the show is unemployed.

hmm...civil court and unemployment, there has got to be some sort of correlation, no?

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