Do you know any metrosexuals? Or are you a metrosexual?

[BD2003]

Every man I know that does the things that that guy said in the article has been a raging, flaming homosexual. I can understand putting 10 mins into buying tongs, thats the kind of thing you buy once for a looong time so you want to get it right, but face creams and diesel jeans? Fifi boy.

 

[styelers]

tooo long to read!

 

[LeeTJ]

So in a private room at the Manhattan restaurant Eleven Madison Park recently, Mr. Martinson answered the marketers' questions and schmoozed with 11 like-minded straight guys who were into Diesel jeans, interior design, yoga and Mini Coopers, and who would never think of ordering a vodka tonic without specifying Grey Goose or Ketel One.

and this ALMOST ruins the Mini Cooper for me too. that's sad.

but no, i still want to get that Chevy Avalanche. then when i can afford it, i'll also buy a mini and put it in the back.

 

They say were a superficial society, I see no evidence.

 

[RyanM]

Uh on - I'm worried.

I have more dress shirts in my closet than music-oriented shirts. (8 to 6!)
I wear black slacks every day.
I always stipulate that my dirty vodka on the rocks be made with Grey Goose.
Most of my friends IRL are female.
I cry at movies frequently.

OMG! I'M PRACTICALLY A METROSEXUAL!

 

[JetBlack69]

Originally posted by: tagej
mithrandir2001,

Last time I was at Target, I spent about 10 minutes deciding which grill tongs to buy. I held at least 4 different kinds in my hands and analyzed their feel, weight and spring action. I liked the Michael Graves design for overall aesthetics but ended up with a Oneida pair for their attractive price and the sleek satin-nickel finish. The social reactionaries would describe my behavior as certainly queer but what the hell am I supposed to do? Just pick up the first pair I see and buy them outright as to protect my masculinity? Sorry, I have to like what I buy. What ever happened to male sophistication and refinement?

I certainly would not tell you that you have to change anything about what you do. You can do anything you want, it's a free world. If you're gay, so what, that's no business of mine. I just don't buy all this nonsense about a 'metrosexual', to me it's just another way of saying "homosexual, but that doesn't sound nice".

With regard to "refinement" and "sophistication", I guess one could define it any way they want to, but the reality is that the average man does not see the value in the "aesthetics" of Oneida vs Graves for grill thongs. Words like "sleek satin-nickel finish" do not come into play, unless you're talking about a car part or PC part A man with normal testosterone levels would simply not care, and pick up the one that could do what it needed to do, and for the best price.......

This reminds me of FoBot's quote, "Use the right tool for the right job!" which is what most men seem to do. Not "Use the right tool for the right job that looks nice, matches with everything in the room and smells nice."

 

[Moonbeam]

Ah me, we do have so much invested in our gender identity don't we. It's important to know why. The reason is that we feel so deeply inferior that conformity offers us the only escape from feeling that difference. If we can only be like the next male we can get love, be accepted and pretend we don't have this tremendous self hate. I can circle jerk around pretending to be you and you me. Who can criticize then. Lets all learn our socially designated parts and get them down pat, boys and girls, any body odd we'll laugh off the block. We have to hate the odd one. We can't let anybody get away with being different. We've internalized and self directed our hate and can't let the odd one remind us of where we stepped out on line and got crushed. We must crush, kill, torment and hound anybody different we hate ourselves so much. Punish, ridicule, hate, blame, burn, bomb, excoriate the different, all so we don't have to see how miserable and small we feel.

Those of you who can make no room for the feminine in you are deeply mentally ill, deeply infected with self hate, a deep menace to life and happiness on this world. You are profoundly, deeply, internally sick, but you will never know. You hide within the crowd.

It's a God Damned shame.

Ever seen a cowboy on his horse in a parade.

You American hypermales are actually only emotionally dead. You are the actual closet homosexuals because you don't even know you're real self is dead in the invisible closet of your past. I morn for you, you poor dead things.
------------------------

A winter's day, in a deep and dark December, I am alone,
Gazing from my window to the streets below
On (a) freshly fallen silent shroud of snow.
I am a rock, I am an island.

I've built walls, A fortress deep and mighty, That none may penetrate.
I have no need of friendship, friendship causes pain.
It's laughter and it's loving I disdain.
I am a rock, I am an island.

Don't talk of love, but I've heard the words before,
It's sleeping in my memory.
I won't disturb the slumber of feelings that have died.
If I never loved I never would have cried.
I am a rock, I am an island.

I have my books, and my poetry to protect me,
I am shielded in my armor, Hiding in my room, safe within my womb.
I touch no one and no one touches me.
I am a rock, I am an island.

And a rock feels no pain, and an island never cries.

 

[RyanM]

Originally posted by: tagej
mithrandir2001,

Last time I was at Target, I spent about 10 minutes deciding which grill tongs to buy. I held at least 4 different kinds in my hands and analyzed their feel, weight and spring action. I liked the Michael Graves design for overall aesthetics but ended up with a Oneida pair for their attractive price and the sleek satin-nickel finish. The social reactionaries would describe my behavior as certainly queer but what the hell am I supposed to do? Just pick up the first pair I see and buy them outright as to protect my masculinity? Sorry, I have to like what I buy. What ever happened to male sophistication and refinement?

I certainly would not tell you that you have to change anything about what you do. You can do anything you want, it's a free world. If you're gay, so what, that's no business of mine. I just don't buy all this nonsense about a 'metrosexual', to me it's just another way of saying "homosexual, but that doesn't sound nice".

With regard to "refinement" and "sophistication", I guess one could define it any way they want to, but the reality is that the average man does not see the value in the "aesthetics" of Oneida vs Graves for grill thongs. Words like "sleek satin-nickel finish" do not come into play, unless you're talking about a car part or PC part A man with normal testosterone levels would simply not care, and pick up the one that could do what it needed to do, and for the best price.......

The amount of homophobia on this board is hysterical.

So you don't think it's right for straight man to have (stereotypically) female interests?

What about a heterosexual female who's into cars, sports, gaming, and sci-fi? Five bucks says if a good looking girl who was interested in those things made a move on you, you'd run in here and post a YAGT.

It sounds like these metrosexuals are simply - GASP - PEOPLE WITH DIFFERENT INTERESTS THAN IS TYPICAL! OMG, STOP THE PRESSES!

 

[LeeTJ]

What you say MAY or MAY not be true but i think it bears very small relevance to the subject at hand.

what annoys me about the "metrosexual" thing WHY SEXUAL?? why make SEXUALITY an issue here. It seems to me it's PURELY about a persons taste in clothes, food, wine, the "finer" things in life. I thought such people were known as "connesuiers". why do we need to make this an issue of sexuality now?

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Ah me, we do have so much invested in our gender identity don't we. It's important to know why. The reason is that we feel so deeply inferior that conformity offers us the only escape from feeling that difference. If we can only be like the next male we can get love, be accepted and pretend we don't have this tremendous self hate. I can circle jerk around pretending to be you and you me. Who can criticize then. Lets all learn our socially designated parts and get them down pat, boys and girls, any body odd we'll laugh off the block. We have to hate the odd on. We can't let anybody get away with being different. We've internalized and self directed our hate and can't let the odd one remind us of where we stepped out on line and got crushed. We must crush, kill, torment and hound anybody different we hate ourselves so much. Punish, ridicule, hate, blame, burn, bomb, excoriate the different, all so we don't have to see how miserable and small we feel.

Those of you who can make no room for the feminine in you are deeply mentally ill, deeply infected with self hate, a deep menace to life and happiness on this world. You are profoundly, deeply, internally sick, but you will never know. You hide within the crowd.

It's a God Damned shame.

Ever seen a cowboy on his horse in a parade.

You American hypermales are actually only emotionally dead. You are the actual closet homosexuals because you don't even know you're real self is dead in the invisible closet of your past. I morn for you, you poor dead things.
------------------------

A winter's day, in a deep and dark December, I am alone,
Gazing from my window to the streets below
On (a) freshly fallen silent shroud of snow.
I am a rock, I am an island.

I've built walls, A fortress deep and mighty, That none may penetrate.
I have no need of friendship, friendship causes pain.
It's laughter and it's loving I disdain.
I am a rock, I am an island.

Don't talk of love, but I've heard the words before,
It's sleeping in my memory.
I won't disturb the slumber of feelings that have died.
If I never loved I never would have cried.
I am a rock, I am an island.

I have my books, and my poetry to protect me,
I am shielded in my armor, Hiding in my room, safe within my womb.
I touch no one and no one touches me.
I am a rock, I am an island.

And a rock feels no pain, and an island never cries.

 

[Moonbeam]

Another nut case that had a thing for feminine guys was Adolph Hitler. He had tremendous self love too. To be so sick and to have no sname, it's a work of art, wouldn't you say, an act of feminine creative madness.

 

[RyanM]

Originally posted by: LeeTJ
What you say MAY or MAY not be true but i think it bears very small relevance to the subject at hand.

what annoys me about the "metrosexual" thing WHY SEXUAL?? why make SEXUALITY an issue here. It seems to me it's PURELY about a persons taste in clothes, food, wine, the "finer" things in life. I thought such people were known as "connesuiers". why do we need to make this an issue of sexuality now?

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Ah me, we do have so much invested in our gender identity don't we. It's important to know why. The reason is that we feel so deeply inferior that conformity offers us the only escape from feeling that difference. If we can only be like the next male we can get love, be accepted and pretend we don't have this tremendous self hate. I can circle jerk around pretending to be you and you me. Who can criticize then. Lets all learn our socially designated parts and get them down pat, boys and girls, any body odd we'll laugh off the block. We have to hate the odd on. We can't let anybody get away with being different. We've internalized and self directed our hate and can't let the odd one remind us of where we stepped out on line and got crushed. We must crush, kill, torment and hound anybody different we hate ourselves so much. Punish, ridicule, hate, blame, burn, bomb, excoriate the different, all so we don't have to see how miserable and small we feel.

Those of you who can make no room for the feminine in you are deeply mentally ill, deeply infected with self hate, a deep menace to life and happiness on this world. You are profoundly, deeply, internally sick, but you will never know. You hide within the crowd.

It's a God Damned shame.

Ever seen a cowboy on his horse in a parade.

You American hypermales are actually only emotionally dead. You are the actual closet homosexuals because you don't even know you're real self is dead in the invisible closet of your past. I morn for you, you poor dead things.
------------------------

A winter's day, in a deep and dark December, I am alone,
Gazing from my window to the streets below
On (a) freshly fallen silent shroud of snow.
I am a rock, I am an island.

I've built walls, A fortress deep and mighty, That none may penetrate.
I have no need of friendship, friendship causes pain.
It's laughter and it's loving I disdain.
I am a rock, I am an island.

Don't talk of love, but I've heard the words before,
It's sleeping in my memory.
I won't disturb the slumber of feelings that have died.
If I never loved I never would have cried.
I am a rock, I am an island.

I have my books, and my poetry to protect me,
I am shielded in my armor, Hiding in my room, safe within my womb.
I touch no one and no one touches me.
I am a rock, I am an island.

And a rock feels no pain, and an island never cries.

I agree, I think the name is retarded too. I think the author was trying to get attention for his piece, so he made it controversial.

 

[Moonbeam]

LeeTJ, the subject at hand is not the real subject at hand.

 

[tokamak]

can someone clue me in as to what the big deal is here? the guy likes to dress nice...so what?

 

[LeeTJ]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
LeeTJ, the subject at hand is not the real subject at hand.

again

typical moonbeam nonsense.

why not constantly utter gibberish and nonsense, OH Wait that IS what you do.

Do you know any metrosexuals? Or are you a metrosexual?

THAT is the topic at hand and IT IS THE TOPIC at hand.

 

[Moonbeam]

Second line of my sig is there for you, Lee. It takes a while to convince the blind there's such a thing as sight. no?

Things go better with coke.

 

[LeeTJ]

It may not be so much a matter that I'm far out, but rather that you have never been anywhere.

it may and it could just as easily be that you are just an attention seeking whore and the only way you can do it is with your nonsense.

it's all matter of perspective.

edit

btw, i'm ready for my enema and my shoes are off.

 

[Moonbeam]

Good, then your shoes have had their enema and are no longer full of sh!t.

Wouldn't it be wonderful if everything was just a matter of opinion and we could just dispense with the notion that anybody might actually know something. I'm sure, though, that's how things must look to you. How could it not?

 

[LeeTJ]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Good, then your shoes have had their enema and are no longer full of sh!t.

Wouldn't it be wonderful if everything was just a matter of opinion and we could just dispense with the notion that anybody might actually know something. I'm sure, though, that's how things must look to you. How could it not?

at least make SOME attempt at accuracy here moonbeam.

I never said that EVERYTHING was opinion. I was referring to your SPECIFIC quote that "It may not be so much a matter that I'm far out, but rather that you have never been anywhere."

with regards to that statement IT IS ALL JUST a matter of PERSPECTIVE.

You don't know enough about me to make any claims about where i have or have not been.

your attempts at the appearance of intelligence by trying to make issues more difficult than they are suggest exactly what you are.

the truly intelligent people make truth appear SIMPLER not more confusing. that is the hallmark of genius.

 

[EvilYoda]

Okay...that article was way too freaking long.

And are you still "metrosexual" if you do enjoy the finer things in life, as listed, but still drive a good car, enjoy/play sports and participate in other "manly" things? Maybe that was addressed in there, but I can't read that much on a Saturday

 

[Moonbeam]

wait

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: LeeTJ

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Good, then your shoes have had their enema and are no longer full of sh!t.

Wouldn't it be wonderful if everything was just a matter of opinion and we could just dispense with the notion that anybody might actually know something. I'm sure, though, that's how things must look to you. How could it not?

at least make SOME attempt at accuracy here moonbeam.

I never said that EVERYTHING was opinion. I was referring to your SPECIFIC quote that "It may not be so much a matter that I'm far out, but rather that you have never been anywhere."

with regards to that statement IT IS ALL JUST a matter of PERSPECTIVE.

You don't know enough about me to make any claims about where i have or have not been.

your attempts at the appearance of intelligence by trying to make issues more difficult than they are suggest exactly what you are.

the truly intelligent people make truth appear SIMPLER not more confusing. that is the hallmark of genius.

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Well speaking of attempting to be accurate look at this:
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"it may and it could just as easily be that you are just an attention seeking whore and the only way you can do it is with your nonsense.

it's all matter of perspective."
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Notice you used two different lines. I do that when I make a paragraph to separate two unrelated ideas. Had I wanted to say the line before was a perspective I would have written it like this:

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It may and it could just as easily be that you are just an attention seeking whore and the only way you can do it is with your nonsense. It's all matter of perspective.

Note too that I made no statements as to where you have or have not been. I said that your seeing me as far out MAY BE a result of the fact that you haven't been anywhere. And people who have been places usually aren't defensive about it.

It also MAY BE that you are projection your unconscious need for attention on me and that you are the attention whore. I mean, good grief, where could such a suspicion come from? I'm simply shocked you could suggest such a thing. I stated my reasons for expressing my presence earlier in the thread. Do you know how to read? Me love you.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

LOL

 

[tcsenter]

I'm reasonably sure Hitler had a thing for women, too. Him and Eva were certainly an item.

Guess that means men who like women are sick in the head.

 

[PowerMacG5]

I need cliffnotes, to lazy to read non-technology related article.

 

[LunarRay]

Originally posted by: LeeTJ

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Good, then your shoes have had their enema and are no longer full of sh!t.

Wouldn't it be wonderful if everything was just a matter of opinion and we could just dispense with the notion that anybody might actually know something. I'm sure, though, that's how things must look to you. How could it not?

at least make SOME attempt at accuracy here moonbeam.

I never said that EVERYTHING was opinion. I was referring to your SPECIFIC quote that "It may not be so much a matter that I'm far out, but rather that you have never been anywhere."

with regards to that statement IT IS ALL JUST a matter of PERSPECTIVE.

You don't know enough about me to make any claims about where i have or have not been.

your attempts at the appearance of intelligence by trying to make issues more difficult than they are suggest exactly what you are.

the truly intelligent people make truth appear SIMPLER not more confusing. that is the hallmark of genius.

Perspective is truly a gift.

Take the Cup the perceived Intellegent person presents... it is full!

Now take the Cup of the truly Intellegent person... his cup is empty... ready to accept what truth may seek to enter in.