Do you keep up to date with convicted sex offenders living near you?

[manlymatt83]

Originally posted by: Chronoshock

Originally posted by: SsupernovaE
To be fair, many jurisdictions report convicted sex offenders even if their offenses were relatively benign; such as statutory offenses like between a 21-year-old and 17-year-old.

This is the only reasonable objection I've heard regarding tracking the locations of sex offenders. This is really a problem with sex offense laws and not the tracking system though.

Agreed. Did you rape someone forcefully? Yes. I want to know about it. And I want everyone to know too. Were you 19 and had sex with a 17 year old? Bah.

 

[edro]

Not all sex offenders are rapists and pedophiles.
I hate how the world is grouping them all together.

Lets say you get drunk and ask a woman at a bar to have sex with you.
You can be charged and labeled a sex offender for the rest of your life.

 

[mb]

Wow, I never looked at the list of offenders who live around me until now. Sure is full of some creepy looking mofos.

 

[Farang]

Originally posted by: edro
Not all sex offenders are rapists and pedophiles.
I hate how the world is grouping them all together.

Lets say you get drunk and ask a woman at a bar to have sex with you.
You can be charged and labeled a sex offender for the rest of your life.

Are you serious? I thought we're all allotted one "no" and then only after is it harassment.

 

[Newbian]

If the offender is a women then I will swing by the place and see where it goes.

 

[Wheezer]

Originally posted by: Leafy

Originally posted by: Wheezer
I have an email sent to me when ever a convicted sex offender moves either in or out of my area....I started doing it when I worked 2nd shift until 1:30 in the morning and the wife was home alone, that way she could be aware of who was living near by.

I recently had a discussion with an associate who thought that posting such information about someone on the internet was wrong and an invasion of their privacy.

To hell with that.....you don't want to be tracked like a dog then I guess you probably should not be committing sex crimes.

So you lower them to the level of a dog? I mean it's hard to conjure pity for these people but surely they're still people. And afforded the same rights as other citizens after they've payed their punishment to society? Or do you not believe in rehabilitation either?

Should we start tracking people who commit such heinous crimes as speeding? Perhaps you could make the argument that they're a danger to the surrounding people. So is a speeder. For a better example, how about thieves or shoplifters? I mean they could steal something at any second, just like supposedly a sex offender COULD RAPE SOMEONE AT ANY SECOND!

Furthermore, what does tracking them do? I mean sure, that way the neighborhood knows that they're there. I'm sure they feel accepted in society, having served their punishment. It's a lot harder to view someone neutrally when you already know their crimes - I doubt you would treat someone who you knew who stole or committed arson or manslaughter the same way. The only difference is that they don't have virtual labels on their faces.

Compounding the problem, this gives you a false sense of security. Suppose you're keeping track of the sex offenders and you find none in your neighborhood. You let your guard down to a level you don't deem adequate when a sex offender is around. The problem is that the notices only tell you where they live - not that they're at their house. They could be raping your daughter RIGHT NOW, and the only thing the notice says is that they look like [picture] and live [60 miles away]. Why would a sex offender, knowing that the people of the neighborhood are alert, venture in his own neighborhood?

This is the sort of vindictive shit our culture tolerates because it's this kind of "eye for an eye" bullshit that feels good but on analysis doesn't really stand.

#1 work on your comprehensive skills. I did not call anyone a dog. I said being tracked like one meaning if you don't want someone lording over you the rest of your life you should watch what you do.

#2 I am sure there are a few innocent people that have been sent to the electric chair, gas chamber or had lethal injection over the course of time, thats too bad really, but that does not mean that we should do away with the death penalty...nor should we do away with a sex offender list because of someone being there because of a stupid mistake while drunk...although I hardly call rape a "stupid mistake"

How many people are killed every day because of drunk drivers...should we do away with cars too?

Are some offenders worse than others? sure.

as one poster said his buddy was allegedly put on a list because of a vindictive sheriff.

Sorry, I smell bullshit. A sheriff can't just wave his magic wand and point it at someone and say "you are now a sex offender and on the list"...it takes just a weee bit more than that. I suspect there is more to the story.

I doubt you would treat someone who you knew who stole or committed arson or manslaughter the same way. The only difference is that they don't have virtual labels on their faces.

sure they can...a background check is just a google search away.

Compounding the problem, this gives you a false sense of security. Suppose you're keeping track of the sex offenders and you find none in your neighborhood. You let your guard down to a level you don't deem adequate when a sex offender is around. The problem is that the notices only tell you where they live - not that they're at their house. They could be raping your daughter RIGHT NOW, and the only thing the notice says is that they look like [picture] and live [60 miles away]. Why would a sex offender, knowing that the people of the neighborhood are alert, venture in his own neighborhood?

This is the sort of vindictive shit our culture tolerates because it's this kind of "eye for an eye" bullshit that feels good but on analysis doesn't really stand.

I am not looking for a false sense of security, but it is nice to know whose ones neighbors are...especially if you have children.

Would you let your kids go trick or treating at the home of someone who is on that list? even though you don't know their specific offense? Or let them get a ride to school with this person?

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: Chronoshock

Originally posted by: SsupernovaE
To be fair, many jurisdictions report convicted sex offenders even if their offenses were relatively benign; such as statutory offenses like between a 21-year-old and 17-year-old.

This is the only reasonable objection I've heard regarding tracking the locations of sex offenders. This is really a problem with sex offense laws and not the tracking system though.

yeah. I think it's fair so long as the details of the offense come along with the report. Many have this on their records b/c some parents were upset that their teenage daughter was having sex with her teenage boyfriend.

 

[sonambulo]

Absolutely. Who else is going to be willing to throw oranges at me while I sit on a stove burner and masturbate?

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: SunnyD

Originally posted by: darkxshade

Originally posted by: SunnyD

Originally posted by: darkxshade
I only keep track of dNor's movements.

Which lately seems to simply be vibrating incessantly. And to McDonalds to get more McRibs to rub on his nipples.

He's stalking me via PMs now, should I get a restraining order?

He wants to make man-love to you with krylon's big penis. :Q

seems like he summoned a mighty serious ban stick this time. shame i missed it.

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: sonambulo
Absolutely. Who else is going to be willing to throw oranges at me while I sit on a stove burner and masturbate?

on your front lawn? :shocked:

 

[EGGO]

I don't see how keeping updated on the latest list of sex offenders would ever benefit me. And there's plenty of people here who already stated that you shouldn't lump them altogether as some perverted pedophile rapist.

 

[sonambulo]

Originally posted by: zinfamous
on your front lawn? :shocked:

Hell yes. No more showings for tonight but they'll be every hour, on the hour, all weekend.

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: sonambulo

Originally posted by: zinfamous
on your front lawn? :shocked:

Hell yes. No more showings for tonight but they'll be every hour, on the hour, all weekend.

are matinees half-price?

 

[SlitheryDee]

I care that people rape other people. That's bad. I don't care to know who they are.

 

[sonambulo]

Originally posted by: zinfamous
are matinees half-price?

All free all the time if you are willing to hurl insults at me and address me as 'thparkles.'

No eye contact allowed.

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: sonambulo

Originally posted by: zinfamous
are matinees half-price?

All free all the time if you are willing to hurl insults at me and address me as 'thparkles.'

No eye contact allowed.

what if I don't have a lisp?

 

[sonambulo]

Originally posted by: zinfamous
what if I don't have a lisp?

Tie your shirt up into a bikini top and fake it.

 

[zerocool84]

I think it's fine but I find it kinda dumb that they only limit it to sex offenders. What about people who have a history of violent crimes or serious robbery. Another thing is when people picket and force the sex offender to move, then they just move to another neighborhood. Then that neighborhood pickets then forces them to move to another, then another, it's a never ending cycle.

 

[smittybg]

i dont mind the list....but its the restrictions on them.....they cant have internet access , cant live withing 1000 ft of a school or public park and cant work where minors work.

I have a friend who was released from prison for touching a minor boy, he is kind of slow , no retarded but needed special help in high school......No excuses he was punished sent to prison for 14 yrs and now he is out and cant get a job or find a place to live mainly because of the laws restricting his access to society.

So he WANTS TO WORK, he will work anywhere, like fast food or grocery but he cant because minors work there and no factory work because they dont hire felons.
The only job he has had was working a chicken farm shoveling poop and a cow farm milking cows and he got laid off both of those because the "mexicans" work cheaper.

What is he supposed to do?

He made a mistake and fessed up to it and served his time but now he can barely survive because of the restrictions placed on him.

If the government is going to take away their freedoms then they need to setup job placement and apartments so these people can get jobs and live.

End Rant

Also i would rather have list for all kinds of criminals...theifs, murderers, DUI, drug arressts, that stuff is just as important as child molesters and rapist.

 

[MotF Bane]

Originally posted by: Farang

Originally posted by: ggnl

Originally posted by: SMOGZINN

Originally posted by: Wheezer
I have an email sent to me when ever a convicted sex offender moves either in or out of my area....I started doing it when I worked 2nd shift until 1:30 in the morning and the wife was home alone, that way she could be aware of who was living near by.

I recently had a discussion with an associate who thought that posting such information about someone on the internet was wrong and an invasion of their privacy.

To hell with that.....you don't want to be tracked like a dog then I guess you probably should not be committing sex crimes.

Yes, he is one of my friends.
He was 17 when he got put on the list.
For dating a 16 year old.
Her father was a sheriff.
They were less then 3 months difference in their age.
He has been forces to move a countless number of times, either by the ever changing ordinances, or by 'concerned citizens' who harass him until he gives up and moves again.
He has a wife, two kids, a collage degree, and works as a mechanic because he can?t get a job anywhere they check your background.
Now tell me your damn list is fair.

Just because your friend got shafted by unfair statuatory rape laws doesn't mean the directories are not a good idea. There are a lot of sex offenders that aren't so harmless.

yea.. we shouldn't pull out of using the lists, what would you feel like if a real sex offender came inside your neighborhood and you had kids to take care of. I would be scared stiff for their well being and erect a neighborhood watch program to make sure that offender won't thrust their sick desires onto my kids.

I see what you did there.

 

[imported_Lothar]

Originally posted by: manlymatt83

Originally posted by: Chronoshock

Originally posted by: SsupernovaE
To be fair, many jurisdictions report convicted sex offenders even if their offenses were relatively benign; such as statutory offenses like between a 21-year-old and 17-year-old.

This is the only reasonable objection I've heard regarding tracking the locations of sex offenders. This is really a problem with sex offense laws and not the tracking system though.

Agreed. Did you rape someone forcefully? Yes. I want to know about it. And I want everyone to know too. Were you 19 and had sex with a 17 year old? Bah.

Did you kill someone deathly?

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: Lothar

Originally posted by: manlymatt83

Originally posted by: Chronoshock

Originally posted by: SsupernovaE
To be fair, many jurisdictions report convicted sex offenders even if their offenses were relatively benign; such as statutory offenses like between a 21-year-old and 17-year-old.

This is the only reasonable objection I've heard regarding tracking the locations of sex offenders. This is really a problem with sex offense laws and not the tracking system though.

Agreed. Did you rape someone forcefully? Yes. I want to know about it. And I want everyone to know too. Were you 19 and had sex with a 17 year old? Bah.

Did you kill someone deathly?

So in your opinion statutory rape is NOT rape. Understood.

 

[Black88GTA]

Originally posted by: jagec

Originally posted by: Lothar

Originally posted by: manlymatt83

Originally posted by: Chronoshock

Originally posted by: SsupernovaE
To be fair, many jurisdictions report convicted sex offenders even if their offenses were relatively benign; such as statutory offenses like between a 21-year-old and 17-year-old.

This is the only reasonable objection I've heard regarding tracking the locations of sex offenders. This is really a problem with sex offense laws and not the tracking system though.

Agreed. Did you rape someone forcefully? Yes. I want to know about it. And I want everyone to know too. Were you 19 and had sex with a 17 year old? Bah.

Did you kill someone deathly?

So in your opinion statutory rape is NOT rape. Understood.

Uhh, not in all cases, no. Depending on age of consent laws in the area, a 17 year old can have consensual sex with a 16-and-11-month year old and it's still considered "statutory rape". Which is a bunch of bullshit.

An 18 year old boning a 12 year old, for example, ("consensual" or not) is a different matter entirely.

 

[Dumac]

America is weird about its children and sex...

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: Black88GTA

Originally posted by: jagec

Originally posted by: Lothar

Originally posted by: manlymatt83

Originally posted by: Chronoshock

Originally posted by: SsupernovaE
To be fair, many jurisdictions report convicted sex offenders even if their offenses were relatively benign; such as statutory offenses like between a 21-year-old and 17-year-old.

This is the only reasonable objection I've heard regarding tracking the locations of sex offenders. This is really a problem with sex offense laws and not the tracking system though.

Agreed. Did you rape someone forcefully? Yes. I want to know about it. And I want everyone to know too. Were you 19 and had sex with a 17 year old? Bah.

Did you kill someone deathly?

So in your opinion statutory rape is NOT rape. Understood.

Uhh, not in all cases, no. Depending on age of consent laws in the area, a 17 year old can have consensual sex with a 16-and-11-month year old and it's still considered "statutory rape". Which is a bunch of bullshit.

An 18 year old boning a 12 year old, for example, ("consensual" or not) is a different matter entirely.

You're missing the point. manlymatt83 was drawing exactly that same distinction...between "forceful rape" and "statutory rape" (the legal definition of 19 & 17-y.o. having sex)

Lothar was trying to imply that all rapes are forceful by definition.