Do you hate ricers?

[L00ker]

The problem isn't that they are tacky lame noisy and slow it's that they bring unneeded or desired NEGATIVE attention to other people with foreign (Japanese or otherwise) sports cars because generally these are the drivers that are not skilled and take unnecessary risks on open roads and attempt to do things their cars are NOT capable of putting others at risk as well as making law enforcement more apt to harass ANYONE driving a similar make/model car... I hate the little fvcks and would love to stick one of them in my trunk drive out in the middle of nowhere and leave them there bound and gagged, better food for the wolves then anything else...

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: Vic
Hate is a strong word. Laugh at some people's poor taste is more like it. And that's what "rice" really is. Poor taste. If a car is done right -- clean and actually fast -- then it's not rice no matter where it was made. OTOH, poorly-fitting unpainted body kits, ugly park bench wings, and melon-shooter exhaust with <150bhp, etc. is always rice.

Here's a great example. Some years ago, I'm driving an clean, mostly stock Acura Integra GSR on the freeway when this kid in an early-90's Civic pulls up next to me. It's cut-spring-ghetto-slammed to the ground so bad it would bounce if it ran over a toothpick, covered in primer and mismatched sagging body kits, with an exhaust so loud you can hear it mile away. He waves at me at puts into the floor, the automatic transmission kicking down a gear, the volume and pitch of the exhaust increasing to maddening levels, and proceeds to walk away from me at about an inch an hour. Seriously. I was in tears laughing. And that is rice.

Excellent description. :laugh:

- M4H

 

[Hyperlite]

its too much of an undefined term. it cannot apply to all japanese cars, but when someone takes a $5k '96 civic and tries to add a bunch of dumb ****** to it and no performance mods, thats rice. A subaru impreza wrx sti is not rice. a honda s2000 is not rice. an EVO MR is not rice. they are bada$$,reliable foreign cars.

 

[fenrir]

Originally posted by: Vic
He waves at me at puts into the floor, the automatic transmission kicking down a gear,

God, I am so sick of the people on this board that think they are so much better because their car is a manual. I am sorry, but you are as bad as the ricers that think a fart can makes them cool.

I have both manual and automatic cars by the way.

Matt

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: fenrir

Originally posted by: Vic
He waves at me at puts into the floor, the automatic transmission kicking down a gear,

God, I am so sick of the people on this board that think they are so much better because their car is a manual. I am sorry, but you are as bad as the ricers that think a fart can makes them cool.

I have both manual and automatic cars by the way.

Matt

Some of us enjoying shifting gears manually.

+GetOffMyLawn

- M4H

 

[JulesMaximus]

No, I just think they look ridiculous and 99% of them are done in extremely poor taste.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Originally posted by: goku
I'm trying to understand why all the hate for ricers, rice burners yes but ricers, well it can vary greatly but I don't see anything wrong with japanese cars. I've noticed students in my autotech class are extremely biased and believe that american cars are not only better built than japanese cars but that japanese cars are garbage etc. Personally I think that they're stupid and are stuck in the past. While the muscle cars of the late 60s and early 70s are nice, they're vastly overrated. I thought people only cared about performance and not looks, hence the reason why people hate rice burners.

some production cars of the 60's were running STOCK 11's on the quarter mile. how many cars do that today, particularly ricers?

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: fenrir

Originally posted by: Vic
He waves at me at puts into the floor, the automatic transmission kicking down a gear,

God, I am so sick of the people on this board that think they are so much better because their car is a manual. I am sorry, but you are as bad as the ricers that think a fart can makes them cool.

I have both manual and automatic cars by the way.

Matt

Automatic is fine for performance if your car has an ample amount of horsepower and low-end torque. A 100 bhp torque-less 4-banger with an automatic and screaming loud exhaust is poor taste, however, which was my point.

Get over yourself.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon

Originally posted by: goku
I'm trying to understand why all the hate for ricers, rice burners yes but ricers, well it can vary greatly but I don't see anything wrong with japanese cars. I've noticed students in my autotech class are extremely biased and believe that american cars are not only better built than japanese cars but that japanese cars are garbage etc. Personally I think that they're stupid and are stuck in the past. While the muscle cars of the late 60s and early 70s are nice, they're vastly overrated. I thought people only cared about performance and not looks, hence the reason why people hate rice burners.

some production cars of the 60's were running STOCK 11's on the quarter mile. how many cars do that today, particularly ricers?

Name one.

 

[SnipeMasterJ13]

As said before, rice can go both ways, not just foreign. Anything with a horrific paint job, over sized rims, unpainted "performance" parts, and a dumba$$ driver would be considered rice to me. Foreign cars just get that more often. Little kids watch Fast and Furious and then go buy a civic and think it's fast. Research is obviously not their friend. Granted, a civic can be made very fast, for the right price. I respect any FAST car, no matter what brand it happens to be. It's just that it generally takes more effort for foreign cars to get there.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
some production cars of the 60's were running STOCK 11's on the quarter mile. how many cars do that today, particularly ricers?

Name one.

Waiting...


Even a 426 Hemi Road Runner -- one of the fastest of all the muscle cars -- ran mid-13's. A Tri-power or Ram-air GTO would do mid-14's. And these were 2 of the fastest. Your average muscle car of the 60s was in the 15's.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
some production cars of the 60's were running STOCK 11's on the quarter mile. how many cars do that today, particularly ricers?

Name one.

Waiting...


Even a 426 Hemi Road Runner -- one of the fastest of all the muscle cars -- ran mid-13's. A Tri-power or Ram-air GTO would do mid-14's. And these were 2 of the fastest. Your average muscle car of the 60s was in the 15's.

my intarweb is being very slow - just watch the history channel's show about muscle cars, they name some in there. i cant recall off the top of my head

 

[fenrir]

Originally posted by: Vic
Automatic is fine for performance if your car has an ample amount of horsepower and low-end torque. A 100 bhp torque-less 4-banger with an automatic and screaming loud exhaust is poor taste, however, which was my point.

Get over yourself.

A 100 bhp 4-banger is just as bad in automatic or manual, yet you felt the need to italicize 'automatic' like it is a bad thing. Take your own advice.

Matt

 

[SithSolo1]

Originally posted by: BD2003


You can just as easily rice out an american car as an import, it just doesnt happen as offen.

So true.

This is a crop from a photo I took coming back from Tail of the Dragon at Deals Gap, NC.

Piktar

For those of you who have no idea what this is I don't blame you. Its a V8 Mustang with body kit, wing, horrid paint job, and a Skyline GTR badge.

 

[Demon-Xanth]

It depends on the car/owner. Some are well done, and there's nothing wrong with them. The person decided to hop up what they had and did it in a tasteful way and actually improved it. But for every one of those there's 9 fuckwits that went into Pep Boys with a crap magnet and bought everything APC managed to ship out of China before the people making them laughed themselves to death.

 

[Demon-Xanth]

Originally posted by: SithSolo1

Originally posted by: BD2003


You can just as easily rice out an american car as an import, it just doesnt happen as offen.

So true.

This is a crop from a photo I took coming back from Tail of the Dragon at Deals Gap, NC.

Piktar

For those of you who have no idea what this is I don't blame you. Its a V8 Mustang with body kit, wing, horrid paint job, and a Skyline GTR badge.

I clicked that link expecting to see the red Mustang that I've seen around Sacramento that is a bone stock V6 w/ a GTR badge.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

i hate non asian ricers....

deal with it.. im racist. ricers should be asian kids with their rich parents handing them civics, accords, g35s, etc..

 

[Demon-Xanth]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
some production cars of the 60's were running STOCK 11's on the quarter mile. how many cars do that today, particularly ricers?

Name one.

Waiting...


Even a 426 Hemi Road Runner -- one of the fastest of all the muscle cars -- ran mid-13's. A Tri-power or Ram-air GTO would do mid-14's. And these were 2 of the fastest. Your average muscle car of the 60s was in the 15's.

The tires back in the '60s were worse than the temporary use spares that cars carry today. Hard and narrow with stiff sidewalls. If you could take a set of drag racing slicks back in time you could trade them for a Shelby Daytona Coupe.

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: SithSolo1

Originally posted by: BD2003


You can just as easily rice out an american car as an import, it just doesnt happen as offen.

So true.

This is a crop from a photo I took coming back from Tail of the Dragon at Deals Gap, NC.

Piktar

For those of you who have no idea what this is I don't blame you. Its a V8 Mustang with body kit, wing, horrid paint job, and a Skyline GTR badge.

Yikes, that thing is an abortion...

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: fenrir

Originally posted by: Vic
Automatic is fine for performance if your car has an ample amount of horsepower and low-end torque. A 100 bhp torque-less 4-banger with an automatic and screaming loud exhaust is poor taste, however, which was my point.

Get over yourself.

A 100 bhp 4-banger is just as bad in automatic or manual, yet you felt the need to italicize 'automatic' like it is a bad thing. Take your own advice.

Matt

Taste, dumbass, we're talking about taste. A 100 bhp 4-banger can still be tasteful provided it has excellent handling abilities or some other kind of "fun to drive" factor, i.e. the kind that require (at the very least) a manual transmission.

What you're getting a pissy about was not MT snobbery on my part. Some times an MT is good, some times an AT is good. It's crucial IMO to know the difference.

 

[Preyhunter]

I love ricers, they make the rest of us look better.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
some production cars of the 60's were running STOCK 11's on the quarter mile. how many cars do that today, particularly ricers?

Name one.

Waiting...


Even a 426 Hemi Road Runner -- one of the fastest of all the muscle cars -- ran mid-13's. A Tri-power or Ram-air GTO would do mid-14's. And these were 2 of the fastest. Your average muscle car of the 60s was in the 15's.

The tires back in the '60s were worse than the temporary use spares that cars carry today. Hard and narrow with stiff sidewalls. If you could take a set of drag racing slicks back in time you could trade them for a Shelby Daytona Coupe.

Oh God... I knew someone was going to bring up the tires. Seriously, that's just representative of the overall primitive technology that was in 60s muscle cars in general. You may as well argue that they could have hooked up better for faster times with modern transmissions, diffs, and suspensions too (let's not even talk about the brakes :Q ).
The fact of the matter is that none of them were running below 13's except some rare limited-production and/or dealer-specialty models (i.e. Yenko).
Otherwise, just like today's 4-bangers, if you were pulling 14's or better down at the track, you had a fast car.

 

[xtreme26]

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon

Originally posted by: goku
I'm trying to understand why all the hate for ricers, rice burners yes but ricers, well it can vary greatly but I don't see anything wrong with japanese cars. I've noticed students in my autotech class are extremely biased and believe that american cars are not only better built than japanese cars but that japanese cars are garbage etc. Personally I think that they're stupid and are stuck in the past. While the muscle cars of the late 60s and early 70s are nice, they're vastly overrated. I thought people only cared about performance and not looks, hence the reason why people hate rice burners.

some production cars of the 60's were running STOCK 11's on the quarter mile. how many cars do that today, particularly ricers?

it's not all about a straight line nowadays:roll:

 

[zoiks]

Originally posted by: fenrir

Originally posted by: Vic
Automatic is fine for performance if your car has an ample amount of horsepower and low-end torque. A 100 bhp torque-less 4-banger with an automatic and screaming loud exhaust is poor taste, however, which was my point.

Get over yourself.

A 100 bhp 4-banger is just as bad in automatic or manual, yet you felt the need to italicize 'automatic' like it is a bad thing. Take your own advice.

Matt

I have a G35 w/auto and have also driven a coworkers manual G35 as well.
I have to say the response of the manual is instantaneous and damn fast. My G35 does not always have an immediate response when shifting gears when I floor it.
I'd say there is a difference b/w auto and manual transmission performance with manual clearly on top.

 

[cherrytwist]

so if I mod my VW, that's kraut, right?