Do you hate rap? Come on in.

[exilera]

Originally posted by: XNice
"I get money... I got money. /
So you being broke is a joke.. thas not funny. /
I slide hunnies.... in the back of the truck. /
What you aint know.... i'm suttin like a mack to these sl**s. /
But.... I remember my first bit of work..../
I was young, I was dumb.... couldnt work wit the work. /
But, now look, i'm makin work with the work. /
To the left to the right, thats work for you jerks./ cmon...
I'll get ya price better mannnnn. /
I'll get ya white better mannnnnn. /
Go get ya ice better mannnnnnn."
~Juelz Santana (Dipset)

THe new rap that seems to be gettihg popular is the "Crack" rap. And for all you soapboxers, 50 Cent - Massacre sold 1.1 mil in the first 3 days.... rap cant be that bad....

It is that bad; there's just a hell of a lot of people out there with really bad taste

 

[newParadigm]

rap used t o be spelled with a C at the begining.

 

[XNice]

i wouldnt say bad taste just different tastes. list some of your favorite songs/artists and watch the opinions roll in. Also mentioning rap in a geek forum like this is almost as useless as those YAGT's. Because for real, for real... w t f do yous know about rap anyway? Most of you are so uninformed its funny, but in here it doesnt matter, why get informed? Why inform yourself on music you dont like. Its much easier to just spout opinions and hope alot of people agree with you, which in turn makes you "right" . props to the op for attempting...

 

[Muse]

OK, here's the deal: I hear a lot of rap that I just can't stand. Oftentimes when that happens I think, "I hate rap." All kinds of ideas occur to me. But I have to say that I do hear a lot of rap (at least occasionally) that I do like. I'm not into it to the point where I can say, I like this, I don't like that, this is trendy and not appealing, these people I dig, etc. I know some artists/groups whose recordings I've liked. I don't follow the scene. I'm a college radio DJ and I've been around a long time and my tastes are quite varied and deep. I have the sense a lot of times that a lot of the people who are into rap music are like a lot of people who are into a religion - they use it as a shortcut to get somewhere, sidestepping a lot of stuff. IOW, a lot of them don't know squat about a lot of things, most especially other music.

I watched a movie the other night and probably more than 1/2 of the soundtrack was rap or something closely related, and the quality was pretty high compared to what I catch on the radio. Movie soundtracks in general are better musically than what you otherwise hear - a director wants to drop real gems into his flick, no filler allowed. That movie, BTW, was Yeah Right! Real good soundtrack - it's about skateboarding, pretty much world class outdoor trick artists. Much blood was shed, injuries suffered I'm sure. They showed you some of that but mostly they showed the successful stuff, of course.

 

[XNice]

i like the happy quotes in your sig....

 

[AstroCreep]

Originally posted by: The Linuxator
So the guy is named MC Pee Pants, how typicall of a rap/hip-hop artist ROFL .

No, MC Pee-Pants was a character from Aqua-Teen Hunger Force.

The guy who did the voice for this character is a geeky-rapper who goes by the name MC Chris, hence yukichigai's post for MC Chris's website.

MC Chris = :thumbsup: Entertaining to say the least. I saw him when he came to Cleveland last month.

 

[Muse]

Originally posted by: XNice
i like the happy quotes in your sig....

Thank you, thank you, thank you! You're the first person who's bothered to comment on that. I put it there around the first of the year. I used to think that "happiness was for pigs" (a friend of once mine said that this was my attitude, and I agreed), but that was a long time ago. I think of it differently now. I have always believed in passion, more recently I can appreciate the idea of happiness. However, as seen in the sig-link, different people have rather different ideas on the subject.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Originally posted by: XNice
"I get money... I got money. /
So you being broke is a joke.. thas not funny. /
I slide hunnies.... in the back of the truck. /
What you aint know.... i'm suttin like a mack to these sl**s. /
But.... I remember my first bit of work..../
I was young, I was dumb.... couldnt work wit the work. /
But, now look, i'm makin work with the work. /
To the left to the right, thats work for you jerks./ cmon...
I'll get ya price better mannnnn. /
I'll get ya white better mannnnnn. /
Go get ya ice better mannnnnnn."
~Juelz Santana (Dipset)

for all you soapboxers, 50 Cent - Massacre sold 1.1 mil in the first 3 days....

i jus typed out like a 200 word response and damn ie crashed..... FCK! Synopsis: There's good rap and bad rap, just like theres good people and bad people. You idiots have to learn to see which is which otherwise you end up just being wrong. I hate country but i wouldnt call it crap or... not music.

so much music today is sh!t yet people still sell multi-platinum albums. sales mean nothing reagrding talent when worthless "music" is shoved down the throats of listeners

 

[Muse]

Originally posted by: XNice
i like the happy quotes in your sig....

I just noticed something kind of amazing. Those quotes on happiness? There's a dropdown list at the top and happiness is only one of around 500 words there. Pick another word and you get a multitude of quotes about that word!

For instance, Here's the page when the word picked is "Freedom"

Here's the page (known as Dave's Collected Quotations) displaying all the keywords, which are hyperlinked to their respective collections of quotations.

 

[XNice]

hmmm weird, i never felt like horrible music was forced down my throat and making me to pay my $15 for the cd..... but so much for sweeping statements that require real data but lack it....

 

[Muse]

Originally posted by: XNice
hmmm weird, i never felt like horrible music was forced down my throat and making me to pay my $15 for the cd..... but so much for sweeping statements that require real data but lack it....

Well, I've heard a lot of music on the radio that made me think (when I thought about it): "I can't imagine anybody buying this music. I wouldn't take that if you gave it to me." Many if not most people don't know what's out there, don't know what their options are, don't know that there are alternatives to so many of the things they get exposed to - specifically music, the media in general. People who get genuinely excited by certain types of music (and other art forms) are generally disdainful of much of what is ubiquitously presented to them as art by the mass media. It's one of the penalties of having good taste. It's better than the alternatives, though.

 

[Muse]

Originally posted by: ItmPls
inspired by all these fvcking rap hating threads...

Do you hate rap? Good.

Now post some lyrics that can top this.

Rakim - When I'm Flowin

Yes yes y'all I still fiend by any means
to flow and I go through extremes don't intervene
My adventures show like a three dimensional screen
Cause I mention many things and I'm presentin many scenes
Guess I'm telegraphic, motions energentic
Better tell em forget it, cause I'm telekinetic
Crowds is screamin, I choke the mic and keep squeezin
Styles seemin like I used a thousand words without breathin
Bustin techs like Russian Roulette I doubt you win
Freestyles like hand grenades without the pin
Composin, then leave the mic full of corrosion
Don't test this, or best to expects this explosion
At shows I spit flows with seven deadly venoms
Killin syllables with poisonous synonyms in em
Ideas is blowin, mics is blowin
from what I'm showin, see it, I keep it goin when I'm flowin

-snip-
ah, that felt good!



That's what I thought. You can't And don't post some bullsh!t kiddie rhymes

Dig, so much of rap is just so weak, so undermined by the need to rhyme incessantly. In the immortal words of Nietzsche: "The poet presents his thoughts festively, on the carriage of rhythm: usually because they could not walk."

 

[Shadizzy]

KILL WHITEY!!!!!!!! WIF FIYAAAAAAA

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: exilera

I see your point. I stand corrected. I should change "always" to "usually". In my book, there's Rap and then there's Hip Hop; I listen to Hip Hop, because I dance West Coast Swing, and a good majority of the music played at socials is Hip Hop. The majority of the stuff you see on MTV is Hip Hop. They'd never show Gangster Rap on MTV, and that's what I was referring to. I suppose I shouldn't clump ALL rap together into one category, but I believe the majority of Rap is bad and useless.

The kind of rap the OP likes, Rakim etc, in my opinion is stupid and useless. I read the lyrics, I've heard the songs on XM; the world would be better off without their "music".

Rakim was a legend who pioneered "hip hop". Many of your beloved West Coast pioneers actually pay homage to Rakim and drew inspiration from him, he was one of the guys that started it all. From your responses, it seems like you don't know much about the history of "hip hop", yet you throw the term around because it's probably a buzzword you heard on MTV. Let me educate you a little on the impact Rakim has had on the "HIP HOP" you hear today (which includes your West Coast hip hop). Text

Although he never became a household name, Rakim is near-universally acknowledged as one of the greatest MCs -- perhaps the greatest -- of all time within the hip-hop community. It isn't necessarily the substance of what he says that's helped him win numerous polls among rap fans in the know; the majority of his lyrics concern his own skills and his Islamic faith. But in terms of how he says it, Rakim is virtually unparalleled. His flow is smooth and liquid, inflected with jazz rhythms and carried off with an effortless cool that makes it sound as though he's not even breaking a sweat. He raised the bar for MC technique higher than it had ever been, helping to pioneer the use of internal rhymes -- i.e., rhymes that occurred in the middle of lines, rather than just at the end. Where many MCs of the time developed their technique through improvisational battles, Rakim was among the first to demonstrate the possibilities of sitting down and writing intricately crafted lyrics packed with clever word choices and metaphors (of course, he also had the delivery to articulate them). Even after his innovations were worshipfully absorbed and expanded upon by countless MCs who followed, Rakim's early work still sounds startlingly fresh, and his comeback recordings (beginning in the late '90s) only added to his legend.

Rakim was born William Griffin, Jr. on January 28, 1968, in the Long Island suburb of Wyandanch. The nephew of '50s R&B legend Ruth Brown, Griffin was surrounded by music from day one, and was interested in rap almost from its inception. At age 16, he converted to Islam, adopting the Muslim name Rakim Allah. In 1985, he met Queens DJ Eric B., whose intricately constructed soundscapes made an excellent match for Rakim's more cerebral presence on the mic. With the release of their debut single, "Eric B. Is President," in 1986, Eric B. & Rakim became a sensation in the hip-hop community, and their reputation kept growing as they issued classic tracks like "I Ain't No Joke" and "Paid in Full." Their first two full-length albums, 1987's Paid in Full and 1988's Follow the Leader, are still regarded as all-time hip-hop classics; Rakim's work set out a blueprint for other, similarly progressive-minded MCs to follow, and helped ensure that even after the rise of other fertile scenes around the country, East Coast rap would maintain a reputation as the center of innovative lyrical technique. The last two Eric B. & Rakim albums, 1990's Let the Rhythm Hit 'Em and 1992's Don't Sweat the Technique, weren't quite as consistent as their predecessors, but still had plenty of fine moments.

 

[Sixtyfour]

No wonder people don't buy records.

ps. i don't hate rap, i just don't like it because it's NOT music.

 

[eminemrh25]

Older Rap is good, some of the new rap is completely stupid....

 

[Muse]

Originally posted by: eminemrh25
Older Rap is good, some of the new rap is completely stupid....

Completely agree. A lot of the really early stuff (Grandmaster Flash, LL Cool J, etc. was very strong. I think there's still some great stuff being done but there's so much really bad stuff you might never know it. I seem to encounter the best stuff in movie soundtracks once in a while. I alot of the stuff I hear on the radio I can't stand to listen to - it just turns me off.

 

[CRXican]

oh look at her she's looking as good as dinner
and she's looking back at me as if maybe I'm a winner
I'm in my late twenties little girl don't flirt with me
I've got the capapbilities to program your circutry
You don't have to believe me do yourself a little justice
don't let slug undercook your muffins
wait wait wait did I just say that I did must be losing it
because it almost felt like it might just have some truth in it
now back to the platter at hand she said she's twenty-one
and quit school to go work for the man
a switch up in the plan now she's happy as a chorus
cause now she makes rent and now she drives a Taurus
unwinding hanging out at the bar,
I wonder if she knows that I'm not really a star
she seems to be impressed by lack of an ego and my self-aware
style,
I like the way that she smiles
she want to know how I find the words
I do I don't really know but I can lie if you want me to
angels sing to me in my sleep,
I sold my damaged soul for the magic of speech
and now she's laughing she likes the sarcasm
so naturally I'm asking if she 's got a captain
she says a captain what?
You mean a man at home the answer is no I came to this bar
alone
well heavens to betty enough about boyfriends already
just trying to keep the conversation petty
beacuse as much as I would like to play in the forest
ain't no way this girl is going to break into my fortress
I've never made a practice of introducing the matress
to women that I meet at my own gig
I don't know can't imagine anything as alchohol and hormones
turning out to be anything big
but babys hella beautiful and even kind of bright
I got the fire of a vampire inside me tonight
might be alright eveything seems tight
I've got a good buzz and she's giving me the green light
so tell me girl what ya doing after
she says hopefully hanging out with my new favorite rapper
now wait a minute that's not fair your throwing boulders
I can tell by the way your hair touches your shoulders
be straight with me and I'll be me with you
I can think of some of us that we should do so if you think
I'm coming home with you tonight you're probably right
you're pobably right a few more beers a couple more laughs
undressing my past with the questions she asks
yes, I love cactus and I would love to take a bath
if I spent the night would you massage my back
she's closing in for the embrace
and slightly tucks her hand under my face
her hair smells so good I got to have a taste
where's your ford let's ditch this place
and in the parking lot she sparked it off
she must be starving for someone to hit the harp
I've never been kissed with such passionate bliss
porn star damn near tore my lips apart
honey slow it up hold it up start the car
let's leave this garage le'ts go to your apartment
lyndale ave. on the way to the her rest
her drunk ass turn to look at me and she says
you're so beautiful from the hair to the soles
I know, can't belive that I never met you before
feels liike I've been waiting for you me whole life
she missed the red light we hit a pick-up truck and we both DIED

 

[moshquerade]

basically, yes.

but it has it's place.

 

[Heckler 5th]

Originally posted by: Xafgoat
Dreaming of that face again.
It's bright and blue and shimmering.
Grinning wide
And comforting me with it's three warm and wild eyes.

On my back and tumbling
Down that hole and back again
Rising up
And wiping the webs and the dew from my withered eye.

In... Out... In... Out... In... Out...

A child's rhyme stuck in my head.
It said that life is but a dream.
I've spent so many years in question
to find I've known this all along.

"So good to see you.
I've missed you so much.
So glad it's over.
I've missed you so much
Came out to watch you play.
Why are you running?"

Shroud-ing all the ground around me
Is this holy crow above me.
Black as holes within a memory
And blue as our new second sun.
I stick my hand into his shadow
To pull the pieces from the sand.
Which I attempt to reassemble
To see just who I might have been.
I do not recognize the vessel,
But the eyes seem so familiar.
Like phosphorescent desert buttons
Singing one familiar song...

"So good to see you.
I've missed you so much.
So glad it's over.
I've missed you so much.
Came out to watch you play.
Why are you running away?"

Prying open my third eye.
So good to see you once again.
I thought that you were hiding.
And you thought that I had run away.
Chasing the tail of dogma.
I opened my eye and there we were.

So good to see you once again
I thought that you were hiding from me.
And you thought that I had run away.
Chasing a trail of smoke and reason.

Prying open my third eye

was hopin somebody would throw a tool song out there! :beer: rhythm, harmony and poetry > beats and rhymes every time.

 

[Gooberlx2]

Originally posted by: ItmPls

Originally posted by: us3rnotfound
:music:
I close my eyes, only for a moment, and the moment's gone
All my dreams, pass before my eyes, a curiosity
Dust in the wind, all they are is dust in the wind.
Same old song, just a drop of water in an endless sea
All we do, crumbles to the ground, though we refuse to see

Dust in the wind, all we are is dust in the wind

[Now] Don't hang on, nothing lasts forever but the earth and sky
It slips away, and all your money won't another minute buy.

Dust in the wind, all we are is dust in the wind
Dust in the wind, everything is dust in the wind.
:music:

Kiddin me?

Atl least there's more substance there than, basically, "singing on stage is a rush and makes me cool....ps, I have the best style and rhymes evar!".

 

[serialkiller]

Originally posted by: JME Fidelity

Originally posted by: ironcrotch
underground hip hop >

 

[thomsbrain]

Originally posted by: ItmPls
inspired by all these fvcking rap hating threads...

Do you hate rap? Good.

Now post some lyrics that can top this.

Rakim - When I'm Flowin

Yes yes y'all I still fiend by any means
to flow and I go through extremes don't intervene
My adventures show like a three dimensional screen
Cause I mention many things and I'm presentin many scenes
Guess I'm telegraphic, motions energentic
Better tell em forget it, cause I'm telekinetic
Crowds is screamin, I choke the mic and keep squeezin
Styles seemin like I used a thousand words without breathin
Bustin techs like Russian Roulette I doubt you win
Freestyles like hand grenades without the pin
Composin, then leave the mic full of corrosion
Don't test this, or best to expects this explosion
At shows I spit flows with seven deadly venoms
Killin syllables with poisonous synonyms in em
Ideas is blowin, mics is blowin
from what I'm showin, see it, I keep it goin when I'm flowin

When I'm flowin, theoretically speakin like a drummer
I take you through the streets to the parks in the summer
or illustrate, a time and place you never been in
and make you focus on the future after seein the beginning
And my style wilds, like Miles on the trumpet
Volume dial was kind of low, need to pump it
Up another notch turn the dial til it stops
More watts you got, more things to watch
Third eye's wide open, you're focused on the theory
Keep scopin til you hear me, words is spoken clearly
It's no smokescreens on the scenes that I'm showin
Man I keep it goin, damn I keep it flowin

Two pages cause panic, freestyles is frantic
Thoughts is organic, flow is aerodynamic
Mic is volcanic, rhymes spread across the planet
I send out the scribe now the vibes gigantic
Now, I'm internationally known, mental capacities blown
I hope your microphone's accident prone
Raw footage is shown, but only showin scenes of my own
Leavin your periphereal vision in a zone
But not the twilight, from the insight that I write
and recite, in my mic'll be bright, cause I like
the night glowin, it's out of sight when I'm showin
Man I keep it goin, damn I keep it flowin

Yo, accurate tactics "Make Em Clap to This"
When I "Move the Crowd", my "Rhythm" still don't miss
Breeze through melodies cause "It's Been A Long Time"
My "Lyrics" is "Fury" and rappers hate to hear me rhyme
Every antidote that I quote, is "No Joke"
Nobody's smilin "In The Ghetto" from the notes I wrote
My high techniques wreck and disrepect beats
Have you "Follow-in The Leader" up and down the streets
So "Kick Along" as I rip a song with pull
As the rhyme goes on I get "Paid In Full"
It's Rakim, I'm indicatin rhymes for the showin
Check it out y'all, I keep it goin when I'm flowin

Straight up, Rakim Allah the Fiend of the Microphone still flowin
You know? One love to ? comin through your livin room soon, straight up
?, one love
The whole tri-state, one love
Rakim Allah baby, y'know?
It's on, what, check it out y'all, check it out











That's what I thought. You can't And don't post some bullsh!t kiddie rhymes

I can top it:

"I think I am cool."

See, I just said the same thing, in 100x fewer words, and without making myself look like a fvcking retard. I win.

 

[BurnItDwn]

Those lyrics are stupid. It looks like just a bunch of dumb rhymes.
Also, I hate rap.

 

[Heckler 5th]

Originally posted by: Muse
Well, I've heard a lot of music on the radio that made me think (when I thought about it): "I can't imagine anybody buying this music. I wouldn't take that if you gave it to me." Many if not most people don't know what's out there, don't know what their options are, don't know that there are alternatives to so many of the things they get exposed to - specifically music, the media in general. People who get genuinely excited by certain types of music (and other art forms) are generally disdainful of much of what is ubiquitously presented to them as art by the mass media. It's one of the penalties of having good taste. It's better than the alternatives, though.

^^most profound quote yet.

i forgot to mention that i admire the OP's civility in all this. even after getting thrashed and reamed by everybody, he's still pretty civil. he might be pretty absurd but at least he's civil. if only most rap was civil... i cringe everytime i'm reminded of rap, as i think about the messages this crappy excuse for music sends to people who don't bother examining the rap/pop music industry as a whole. like it or not, kids love this sh1t and kids emulate what they love. rappers don't care about the poison they're spreading and that just makes me hate em even more.

rap should have to carry a warning label like other dangerous products. WARNING: THIS CRAP WILL SET SOCIAL PROGRESS BACK TO THE DAYS OF STONEWALL JACKSON.