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Do you guys know anything about Organo gold?

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kyrax12

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I was invited by a friend to a meeting where the dude explained how we can make tons of money by inviting and sponsoring people and have them sell coffee, tea..etc,


It seems like a pyramid scheme but I want to make sure of this.
 
Run away fast...

Invited by a " Friend ".
Meeting.
Make tons of money.
Inviting and sponsoring other people to sell.

Did you miss any of these red flags.

RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
kyrax12 said:
I was invited by a friend to a meeting where the dude explained how we can make tons of money by inviting and sponsoring people and have them sell coffee, tea..etc,


It seems like a pyramid scheme but I want to make sure of this.
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if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck......
 
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"sponsoring people"

Yes you can make tons of money by giving other people money...

BTW, I take sponsorships as well.
 
kyrax12 said:
I was invited by a friend to a meeting where the dude explained how we can make tons of money by inviting and sponsoring people and have them sell coffee, tea..etc,


It seems like a pyramid scheme but I want to make sure of this.
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It is, but if you know how to sell shit you can make money. A guy I know got into Monavie which is similar to this, and he's since quit his job and is making a killing. He's probably in the 2% of those involved that actually make a success of it, but it does happen.
 
Multi level marketing is a legal pyramid scheme. The best way to determine its validity is:

1. Do they push you to sell products more or bring in others more? If the latter, stay away.
2. Do you believe strongly in the product? If not, stay away.
 
These are good if you have too many friends, and don't generally like people. After a month of being a "member" everyone will avoid you, and your tedious interactions with humans will be non-existent.
 
Yep, that's a pyramid scheme.

Friend of mine came to me talking about Market America. Same old song with its own twist. You have to buy their crap and sell it. But in addition, they give you your own web portal and you sign people up to buy stuff online through your portal. They offer small percentage discounts to make it worth the people's while to do it however its all closeout stuff so if you're looking for new things, you won't find them. And on top of that the discount doesn't come off the price, the person buying the stuff gets a credit to use towards something else or after x amount of time they send you a check for the credit. So basically they're earning interest on that money for x amount of time. The poor schmuck whose web portal it is has to sell their other products, sign people up under them and then they can collect a small percentage of that "rebate" money.

I tried to tell him it wasn't worth his time. They wanted something like $1400 to set up all this web shit and send him his first pile of products to sell. Of course he wanted me to sign up under him and I told him no I didn't want to get involved. He then tries to get me to unwittingly come to one of the "meetings" but I saw right through it and I think he's pissed at me now. I haven't talked to him in a while but I wonder if he's made any money. It just seems like a scummy business to me. You basically have to push your friends and family to use the web portal and you're profiting off their backs and they really don't benefit at all.
 
I actually know a lot about Organo Gold.

I joined them in 2010 and actually pulled in a lot of money but they kicked me out due to my website (dead link is still in sig). They sold $150 million in products last year.

However, they're in trouble due to legal issues. While they most likely won't be brought down, they'll be exposed. They put aluminum in their blended products and some people are consuming a lot of it and getting sick. Additionally they may or may not be exposed in a lie about where their product comes from - this is still speculation.

That said - many people refer to companies like this (affiliate / network marketing) as "pyramid schemes" without having a clue what they're talking about. The difference between a pyramid scheme and network marketing is that you actually receive a product in return for your money with network marketing - whereas with a pyramid scheme you are only guaranteed money in return (which generally does not happen).

Ultimately every company is a "pyramid" by design. You have a CEO with other executives below him, with directors below the executives, managers below the directors, etc, all of which work on a pyramid if you draw it out. It really is no different pay-out wise. The guy at the top of the pyramid will collect more money than the ones below him.

The actual downside to most network marketing companies like Organo Gold is the cost of their product. Generally the product itself is pretty good quality, but doesn't match what you're paying for it.

That said Organo Gold products produced a significant cash flow for me last year of over $100k so there are opportunities to be had - but ultimately the company controls what you're allowed to do, thus why I was kicked out. I personally know 2 people still in the company with paychecks from Organo Gold that total over $10,000 a month on top of what they sell.

Would I recommend the company? Yes and no. I'd personally wait until these legal issues are addressed before making a decision, but the problem is it could take years and that is just too long when joining a company like this. This is the only reason I would say stay away. If I didn't personally know people who talked to higher ups in the company about what is going on, I wouldn't hesitate to recommend joining.
 
Tweak155 said:
That said - many people refer to companies like this (affiliate / network marketing) as "pyramid schemes" without having a clue what they're talking about. The difference between a pyramid scheme and network marketing is that you actually receive a product in return for your money with network marketing - whereas with a pyramid scheme you are only guaranteed money in return (which generally does not happen).
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You're describing the difference between a Pyramid scheme and a Ponzi scheme. "Network marketing" is a term someone made up because stupid people will think it's something new and interesting.
 
Theb said:
You're describing the difference between a Pyramid scheme and a Ponzi scheme. "Network marketing" is a term someone made up because stupid people will think it's something new and interesting.
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I'm describing the difference between a Ponzi Scheme and a Network Marketing company because when people say "pyramid scheme", they are actually thinking of Ponzi Scheme (aka scam). But it isn't.
 
I am lol'ing at the comparisons between a legit company hierarchy and a pyramid scheme. They'll teach you guys anything in their meetings, won't they?
 
QueBert said:
It is, but if you know how to sell shit you can make money. A guy I know got into Monavie which is similar to this, and he's since quit his job and is making a killing. He's probably in the 2% of those involved that actually make a success of it, but it does happen.
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In reality, the more likely scenario is that guy in the 2% that has the other 98% in his downstream. He just kicks back and gets his checks each month.
 
Tweak155 said:
I actually know a lot about Organo Gold.

I joined them in 2010 and actually pulled in a lot of money but they kicked me out due to my website (dead link is still in sig). They sold $150 million in products last year.

However, they're in trouble due to legal issues. While they most likely won't be brought down, they'll be exposed. They put aluminum in their blended products and some people are consuming a lot of it and getting sick. Additionally they may or may not be exposed in a lie about where their product comes from - this is still speculation.

That said - many people refer to companies like this (affiliate / network marketing) as "pyramid schemes" without having a clue what they're talking about. The difference between a pyramid scheme and network marketing is that you actually receive a product in return for your money with network marketing - whereas with a pyramid scheme you are only guaranteed money in return (which generally does not happen).

Ultimately every company is a "pyramid" by design. You have a CEO with other executives below him, with directors below the executives, managers below the directors, etc, all of which work on a pyramid if you draw it out. It really is no different pay-out wise. The guy at the top of the pyramid will collect more money than the ones below him.

The actual downside to most network marketing companies like Organo Gold is the cost of their product. Generally the product itself is pretty good quality, but doesn't match what you're paying for it.

That said Organo Gold products produced a significant cash flow for me last year of over $100k so there are opportunities to be had - but ultimately the company controls what you're allowed to do, thus why I was kicked out. I personally know 2 people still in the company with paychecks from Organo Gold that total over $10,000 a month on top of what they sell.

Would I recommend the company? Yes and no. I'd personally wait until these legal issues are addressed before making a decision, but the problem is it could take years and that is just too long when joining a company like this. This is the only reason I would say stay away. If I didn't personally know people who talked to higher ups in the company about what is going on, I wouldn't hesitate to recommend joining.
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Many MLM companies make a large percentage of their revenue from training and signup fees from new recruits. That's they are considered Ponzi schemes.
 
alkemyst said:
In reality, the more likely scenario is that guy in the 2% that has the other 98% in his downstream. He just kicks back and gets his checks each month.
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Not really. To have a consistent income you have to continually be adding new people under you in order to replace downstream people that leave the program.

SearchMaster said:
Multi level marketing is a legal pyramid scheme. The best way to determine its validity is:

1. Do they push you to sell products more or bring in others more? If the latter, stay away.
2. Do you believe strongly in the product? If not, stay away.
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Pretty much this.

I dated a woman who put on Passion Parties for extra cash. Basically, it's tupperware parties for horny women. She could make up to a $100-$300 a night, though it was usually under $200. Not enough to survive on, but it really helped her out while she was finishing up her dissertation. 2 or 3 nights a month added up. She only ever had 2 people downstream and it was a pain in the ass to keep them in the program.

Her dildoes and vibrator were of decent quality, and she could earn enough to make it worth the time she spent on it. I think those are the two important factors with multi level marketing: Is the product actually worth a shit and can you actually make money on the lowest rung.

Edit: so apparently the coffee is terrible. OP, don't sell people aluminum coffee.
 
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