Do you get a "high" for sushi?

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buzzsaw13

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Originally posted by: buck
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: buzzsaw13
Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: Ns1
Yeah. Sushi as munchies is fucking awesome.

not fucking awsome on your wallet however

Theres a place near my house that sells otoro. $89 for Nigiri

whats teh diff between toro and otoro

If i recall correctly, its a little better than toro.
Toro and otoro is the shit.

Otoro is tuna with a lot of fat and a lot better than toro.

Toro->Chutoro->Otoro
 

Ns1

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Originally posted by: legoman666
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: legoman666
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: legoman666
I've had it a few times at Benihana. Too expensive for me to eat regularly, but it was quite tasty.

DOH

eh? it was quite yummy the 3 times I went here.

benihana is to japanese food as applebee's is to american food

or

benihana is to teppanyaki as joe's crab shack is to crab


benihana just puts a shitload of butter on top of everything to make their shitty food taste better

I can't eat anything with soy sauce (has wheat in it), so the food I can eat there is pretty limited. I stick to the sushi and plain white rice. No butter.

ah, fair enough ;)
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: legoman666
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: legoman666
I've had it a few times at Benihana. Too expensive for me to eat regularly, but it was quite tasty.

DOH

eh? it was quite yummy the 3 times I went here.

benihana is to japanese food as applebee's is to american food

or

benihana is to teppanyaki as joe's crab shack is to crab


benihana just puts a shitload of butter on top of everything to make their shitty food taste better

Agreed. Benihana's sucks beyond words. I hate the place, but every year or so I end up getting dragged there by friends who wouldn't know good Asian food if it bit them in the ass (and we actually have a number good of Asian restaurants here). Last time, I made the mistake of getting the Ahi steak. The menu said medium rare, I specifically asked for rare, the cook made it medium well, they refused to do anything about it, and -- on top of all that -- I could have gotten better tuna out of a can. For like $25 bucks.

 

legoman666

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Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: legoman666
I've had it a few times at Benihana. Too expensive for me to eat regularly, but it was quite tasty.

DOH

It's like we're twins.

I wouldn't be surprised if we had similar demographic

I don't think that sentence made any sense?

made sense to me.
 

sjwaste

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Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Originally posted by: Ns1


Yea, it depends on where you go. Sometimes for lunch, we'll go to this decent sushi buffet for $12 per person. And maybe once a month, we'll go to this award winning sushi place here. We usually go with another couple, and the bill comes to around $120-$140.

Eating sushi at a buffet is sacrilegious

I initially thought it would be horrible. I mean, all you can eat sushi, how good can it be? But for $12, it's really not bad at all. It beats typical fast food or a frozen tv dinner. The place is in an asian neighborhood, with asian stores, and asian grocery stores. It's not your typical american california rolls and spicy tuna rolls. They made some tasty exotic rolls.

I just threw up a little in my mouth.

Why?

I'm not as much of a sushi snob as Ns1 but $12 all you can eat sushi...and by "asian" you probably mean chinese. Never go to chinese owned sushi place.[/quote]

This is insane. To an extent you do get what you pay for with sushi, but not to the extreme that a buffet can't be good. The cost of ingredients just isn't that high and most people don't eat like pigs at the buffet if you look around. Even if what I'm eating averages $20-30 a pound, there's no way I'm getting close to $10 in cost, even if I eat as much as I can (and that's a lot). There's just too much rice.

Sushi isn't ridiculously expensive in high end restaurants for any different reason than a steak or haute french cuisine -- you're paying for the experience and the Chef's work much moreso than the cost of the ingredients.

Sushi buffets are good for what they are, a reasonable expense on tuna, salmon, eel, and other cheap pieces of fish. They're not putting out unagi, but that doesn't make it any worse than hitting Ted's for a steak as opposed to Charlie Palmer.
 

JS80

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Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: legoman666
I've had it a few times at Benihana. Too expensive for me to eat regularly, but it was quite tasty.

DOH

It's like we're twins.

I wouldn't be surprised if we had similar demographic

I don't think that sentence made any sense?

Accountant, living in LA, 20s, etc...
 

Kadarin

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Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: manowar821
Originally posted by: loki8481
never had sushi... I can't bring myself to eat raw meat in any form.

just thinking about tartare makes me want to puke.

Sushi doesn't mean raw meat, it means "pickled rice". You can put many, many things in a sushi plate.

in american, we associate sushi with raw fish regardless of the Japaneses meaning of the word that is the meaning it holds in America.

who cares what they think it means "in american" [sic]

As a US citizen, the only meaning of the term I care about is the one in common usage here in the US. And here, "sushi" = "raw fish".

"Where I come from, we call this stuff... bait!" - some commercial
 

Ns1

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Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: legoman666
I've had it a few times at Benihana. Too expensive for me to eat regularly, but it was quite tasty.

DOH

It's like we're twins.

I wouldn't be surprised if we had similar demographic

I don't think that sentence made any sense?

Accountant, living in LA, 20s, etc...

ah fair enough ;)

Originally posted by: sjwaste
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Originally posted by: Ns1


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I just threw up a little in my mouth.

Why?

I'm not as much of a sushi snob as Ns1 but $12 all you can eat sushi...and by "asian" you probably mean chinese. Never go to chinese owned sushi place.

This is insane. To an extent you do get what you pay for with sushi, but not to the extreme that a buffet can't be good. The cost of ingredients just isn't that high and most people don't eat like pigs at the buffet if you look around. Even if what I'm eating averages $20-30 a pound, there's no way I'm getting close to $10 in cost, even if I eat as much as I can (and that's a lot). There's just too much rice.

Sushi isn't ridiculously expensive in high end restaurants for any different reason than a steak or haute french cuisine -- you're paying for the experience and the Chef's work much moreso than the cost of the ingredients.

Sushi buffets are good for what they are, a reasonable expense on tuna, salmon, eel, and other cheap pieces of fish. They're not putting out unagi, but that doesn't make it any worse than hitting Ted's for a steak as opposed to Charlie Palmer.

Sorry, I'm gonna have to disagree with you on a few points there

1. There is a noticeable difference in flavor between shitty rice, rice vinegar, nori, and fish, and their more expensive counterparts
2. If you don't notice it, then you should probably mention that you got your tastebuds cut off with a machete
3. A killer itamae (sushi chef) is fucking clutch. Given the same quality of ingredients and materials, put 2 differently classed sushi chefs next to each other and the end result will be DRASTICALLY different
3a. There is a reason japanese itamae's do all the nigiri and the non-japanese staff take care of the rolls
3b. Of course, if you're at a buffet, that's a moot point since it's all accomplished by the same unskilled preparer
4. Freshness is key. FUCKING KEY. I can't stress this shit enough. If you to to a buffet, not only is the rice going to be sitting there, getting hard as shit, the vinegar will dry out, as will the fish. Most of the times these places will even precut the fish. F THAT SHIT
5. Going to a sushi buffet for sushi is like going to hometown buffet for steak :shivers:



All THAT said, got any wine? Can trade crystal 1:1


lol
 

BudAshes

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I got my girlfriend to finally eat sushi last night. She hates fish and seaweed, but guess what she loved sushi. You just have to find what you like.

Nigiri Sake is godly though, truly there is nothing more delicious.
 

torpid

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Originally posted by: Kadarin
As a US citizen, the only meaning of the term I care about is the one in common usage here in the US. And here, "sushi" = "raw fish".

So, in other words, as a US citizen, you actively choose to grant legitimacy to a blatant fallacy? So I take it you also, therefore, will state (to reuse my example) that Christopher Columbus proved the Earth wasn't flat to all of his doubters?

 

JS80

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Originally posted by: BudAshes
I got my girlfriend to finally eat sushi last night. She hates fish and seaweed, but guess what she loved sushi. You just have to find what you like.

Nigiri Sake is godly though, truly there is nothing more delicious.

Most people who claim to not like seaweed has probably never eaten seaweed before. Dried and salted seaweed and seaweed soup taste very good.
 

torpid

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Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: torpid
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: amoeba
I like the japanese concept of serving rich things (kobe, otoro) in small amounts so that you still crave one more bite when you are finished.

Not down with the American way of slapping down a huge piece of kobe steak and charging you $250 for it and then making you very lethargic afterwards.

Who serves 25oz kobe for $250? Usually comes 6-10oz.

And how many of those 6-10oz kobes are even the genuine article? I'm really sick of places claiming to sell Kobe that are actually selling random Wagyu beef.

Because they show you the meat before they serve it?

Not sure what you are getting at, but it's pretty unethical to advertise beef from a colorado Wagyu cow (or similar) as Kobe beef, but a lot of places do this. Ask the next time you see it on the menu; you'll be surprised. I know I was. I don't even remember what prompted me to ask, except maybe that I was surprised at the low cost of the item.
 

Saint Michael

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Originally posted by: Kadarin
Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: manowar821
Originally posted by: loki8481
never had sushi... I can't bring myself to eat raw meat in any form.

just thinking about tartare makes me want to puke.

Sushi doesn't mean raw meat, it means "pickled rice". You can put many, many things in a sushi plate.

in american, we associate sushi with raw fish regardless of the Japaneses meaning of the word that is the meaning it holds in America.

who cares what they think it means "in american" [sic]

As a US citizen, the only meaning of the term I care about is the one in common usage here in the US. And here, "sushi" = "raw fish".

"Where I come from, we call this stuff... bait!" - some commercial

Way to turn it into a patriotism issue. There are plenty of American citizens who speak Japanese and care about the actual meaning.
 

JS80

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Originally posted by: torpid
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: torpid
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: amoeba
I like the japanese concept of serving rich things (kobe, otoro) in small amounts so that you still crave one more bite when you are finished.

Not down with the American way of slapping down a huge piece of kobe steak and charging you $250 for it and then making you very lethargic afterwards.

Who serves 25oz kobe for $250? Usually comes 6-10oz.

And how many of those 6-10oz kobes are even the genuine article? I'm really sick of places claiming to sell Kobe that are actually selling random Wagyu beef.

Because they show you the meat before they serve it?

Not sure what you are getting at, but it's pretty unethical to advertise beef from a colorado Wagyu cow (or similar) as Kobe beef, but a lot of places do this. Ask the next time you see it on the menu; you'll be surprised. I know I was. I don't even remember what prompted me to ask, except maybe that I was surprised at the low cost of the item.

The places I go to usually say "American Wagyu, raised in XXXX farm" and "Japanese Wagyu." The Jap wagyu is 2x more exp and when they present the cuts you can clearly see the difference. Calling wagyu "kobe" is like calling tissue "kleenex."
 

AreaCode7O7

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Originally posted by: buck
Originally posted by: AntiFreze
I'm still newer into sushi, and living in Phoenix I'm not going to spend $100+ on sushi. My lunch is at a little hole in the wall for $8 - miso soup, salad, spicy tuna roll, 4 pieces of nigiri (tuna, salmon, yellowtail, cooked shrimp), unagi is $5.50 for the 2.

I've also had sea bass, striped bass, octopus, a some other whitefish. What do you guys recommend? I'll be in san diego for a weekend in may.

Ask someone in San Diego about good sushi places, there are places here in Seattle that aren't well known but really good and decent prices. Then we have some places that are the best in the city and cost close to $100 for two people.

What are your recommendations in Seattle? Tokyo in Bellevue is a touch pricey but GOOD. We tend to just get fish from Uwajimayu and make sushi at home.
 

torpid

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Originally posted by: JS80
The places I go to usually say "American Wagyu, raised in XXXX farm" and "Japanese Wagyu." The Jap wagyu is 2x more exp and when they present the cuts you can clearly see the difference. Calling wagyu "kobe" is like calling tissue "kleenex."

Your places are a lot less uncouth than mine then.
 

takeru

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the sushi buffet place i go to here in new york is really nice. sit down, and order from a menu of 50 something different rolls and pieces. they take the order and give it to the chef, and he makes it on the spot for you. not many sushi buffet places i've seen actually make them from customer orders instead of just mass producing them and having them sit out on trays somewhere. thats why i like this place, all freshly made and for about $19/person.

http://www.bayridge-sushi.com
 

Ns1

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Originally posted by: takeru
the sushi buffet place i go to here in new york is really nice. sit down, and order from a menu of 50 something different rolls and pieces. they take the order and give it to the chef, and he makes it on the spot for you. not many sushi buffet places i've seen actually make them from customer orders instead of just mass producing them and having them sit out on trays somewhere. thats why i like this place, all freshly made and for about $19/person.

http://www.bayridge-sushi.com

that sounds fairly edible
 

JS80

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Originally posted by: torpid
Originally posted by: JS80
The places I go to usually say "American Wagyu, raised in XXXX farm" and "Japanese Wagyu." The Jap wagyu is 2x more exp and when they present the cuts you can clearly see the difference. Calling wagyu "kobe" is like calling tissue "kleenex."

Your places are a lot less uncouth than mine then.

What do yours do?
 

JS80

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Originally posted by: takeru
the sushi buffet place i go to here in new york is really nice. sit down, and order from a menu of 50 something different rolls and pieces. they take the order and give it to the chef, and he makes it on the spot for you. not many sushi buffet places i've seen actually make them from customer orders instead of just mass producing them and having them sit out on trays somewhere. thats why i like this place, all freshly made and for about $19/person.

http://www.bayridge-sushi.com

please tell me their nigiri pricing is 1 piece
 

Ns1

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Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: takeru
the sushi buffet place i go to here in new york is really nice. sit down, and order from a menu of 50 something different rolls and pieces. they take the order and give it to the chef, and he makes it on the spot for you. not many sushi buffet places i've seen actually make them from customer orders instead of just mass producing them and having them sit out on trays somewhere. thats why i like this place, all freshly made and for about $19/person.

http://www.bayridge-sushi.com

please tell me their nigiri pricing is 1 piece

i can't decide if this thread would be better or worse without us
 

legoman666

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Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: takeru
the sushi buffet place i go to here in new york is really nice. sit down, and order from a menu of 50 something different rolls and pieces. they take the order and give it to the chef, and he makes it on the spot for you. not many sushi buffet places i've seen actually make them from customer orders instead of just mass producing them and having them sit out on trays somewhere. thats why i like this place, all freshly made and for about $19/person.

http://www.bayridge-sushi.com

that sounds fairly edible

you bashed on Benihana, but that's the exact same thing they do. They give you a list of choices, you mark them down, chef takes the list, and makes it right in front of you. I can't speak for the anything other than the sushi bar though; I've never eaten in the main restaurant.