Do you game @4xAA and 16xAF? Also need a single video card recommendation for that setting.

[Apocalypse23]

Well i bought the 512mb GTS, not happy with it. Overclocked it too, not happy still. I need something that doesnt need to be overclocked and has a lot of juice in it, and more video memory. I also noticed that I may be the only one that likes playing games with 4xAA and 16xAF and high settings from the control panel (not high performance) and with all game settings on high.

Crysis is a spit in the face for video cards right now, i haven't tried it on 1920x1080 yet but 1440x900 and high settings gave me lets say, unhappy performance, not impressed for what i paid for.

So i am going for the Asus 825mhz 3870x2. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

 

[Syntax Error]

Well, to be honest, games like Crysis are either really unoptimized or it's just that ahead of our current equipment. It does help, however, the AA for added performance. The 512 GTS is good, but it's not better than a GTX or Ultra in terms of raw performance, it's a card that appeals to price-to-performance.

Your demands are just too high, IMO, especially in games like Crysis, there hasn't been a huge jump in performance in graphics cards lately, perhaps Nvidia sitting on their ass or they can't come up with anything better, or both.

To answer the question, the HD3870X2 is the most powerful card out there today, but I doubt you'll be able to run Crysis at WUXGA with 4xAA smoothly, even with that card.

 

[Piuc2020]

Not to mention the HD 3870X2 performs horribly in Crysis at the moment, and I certainly wouldn't say the HD 3870 X2 is the fastest card out there, it's better in some situations but not all.

Your 8800GTS 512MB is the best you can get without going multi-gpu, if you really are that demanding then be prepared to shell out the cash and get another 8800GTS 512MB for SLI or get an 780i and get triple 8800GTXs, then you'll be able to satisfy your demands.

If that's too pricey for you then stop being so picky.

 

[Ika]

You want something that doesn't exist. Simple as that.

 

[SickBeast]

I find that I can run most games with 2XAA at 1920x1080, with Crysis being the big exception. I run an 8800GTS 320mb.

I would imagine that an 8800GT/GTS would do fine at 4XAA.

What games are you having trouble with at those settings? Here are a few that I've played that run great:

- HL2 + episode 2
- COD4
- C&C 3
- UT3
- Gears of War (no AA and medium textures, but possible with your hardware)

 

[bluehaze013]

I upgraded from an 8800GTS 512 to 3870x2, the 3870x2 is far more powerful. I am currently playing Bioshock, COD4, COH and Orange Box and they all run over 60FPS with 8xaa and 16x AF all settings maxed out 1920x1200 res. The only game I have a problem with is Crysis, it runs slower on the GTS but it is actually smoother because there are some slow downs on certain levels with the 3870x2 from looking around the net it seems this happens with all multi gpu setups in Crysis though so I don't really think it's any fault of ATI's I think Crysis is just a steaming pile of bad programming LOL

I have pretty much given up on Crysis as I found once I finished with upgrading video cards, tweaking settings, overclocking everything etc...to get Crysis running good and actually started playing the game it pretty much lost all excitement for me because after playing for awhile I realize the game is just average at best. There are so much better games out there such as Bioshock, HL2 Episode 2, TF2 and they all run flawlessly no problems. So I will most likely end up uninstalling Crysis soon as I have too many other games to finish that I enjoy alot more!

Cheers

 

[soccerballtux]

Originally posted by: bluehaze013
I upgraded from an 8800GTS 512 to 3870x2, the 3870x2 is far more powerful. I am currently playing Bioshock, COD4, COH and Orange Box and they all run over 60FPS with 8xaa and 16x AF all settings maxed out 1920x1200 res. The only game I have a problem with is Crysis, it runs slower on the GTS but it is actually smoother because there are some slow downs on certain levels with the 3870x2 from looking around the net it seems this happens with all multi gpu setups in Crysis though so I don't really think it's any fault of ATI's I think Crysis is just a steaming pile of bad programming LOL

I have pretty much given up on Crysis as I found once I finished with upgrading video cards, tweaking settings, overclocking everything etc...to get Crysis running good and actually started playing the game it pretty much lost all excitement for me because after playing for awhile I realize the game is just average at best. There are so much better games out there such as Bioshock, HL2 Episode 2, TF2 and they all run flawlessly no problems. So I will most likely end up uninstalling Crysis soon as I have too many other games to finish that I enjoy alot more!

Cheers

wow sounds like drivers are working out great then. That's good to hear; ATI needs a flagship product.

 

[Ylurien]

What is it with people who just HAVE TO PLAY CRYSIS AT THIS VERY MINUTE?

I played the demo, thought it was pretty cool, but then told myself that I will not be able to play this for a while. I knew that the hardware that would be required to play the game (at graphical settings that would not induce headaches) would not be released for many months. I knew this, and so did many of you (be honest), yet you still had to rush out and buy the thing. You know it's going to be a MUCH more satisfying experience at 60fps with all eye candy compared to 35fps with a little bit of eye candy. Why ruin the experience for yourself by finding out how every weapon works, how the AI functions, where everything is, etc. with a video card that doesn't do the game justice?

So why did you buy the game? It's your fault - you knew better but you did something stupid. Then you go out and buy a mediocre 8800GTS instead of demanding that Nvidia make an actual next-gen card. If you are stepping up from a 7 series card then fine, but if you're spending all this money on a 3870x2 coming from an 8800GTS then you are sending the message to the chip companies that this sort of increase in performance is adequate, and those companies WILL NEVER GET OFF THEIR A$$ES to do anything about the situation.

So thanks to all the people who keep spending their money on these half-ass cards.

/bitterness

 

[Blacklash]

People who "cant play Crysis well" should try high shader and the rest set to medium. You should get a good balance of performance and IQ like that. I was able to run it with an overclocked HD 3850 256Mb @ 1680x with light AF like that fine.

 

[bluehaze013]

For me the best settings were object and texture detail set to very high, shaders set to medium, water set to high, shadows on low the rest are mostly medium some high don't remember them all but i average around 45fps sometimes jumping up to 60fps sometimes dropping down to 35 @ 1920x1200 in the last two maps i've played (Onslaught and Assualt)

With object and texture detail set to very high the game looks far better than any other combination of playable settings IMO.

 

[soccerballtux]

Originally posted by: bluehaze013
For me the best settings were object and texture detail set to very high, shaders set to medium, water set to high, shadows on low the rest are mostly medium some high don't remember them all but i average around 45fps sometimes jumping up to 60fps sometimes dropping down to 35 @ 1920x1200 in the last two maps i've played (Onslaught and Assualt)

With object and texture detail set to very high the game looks far better than any other combination of playable settings IMO.

Cysis has Onslaught and Assault?

 

[taltamir]

There was only one game ever where I saw bothersome juggedness and turned on AA for a massive improvement in quality... Don't remember its name...

Normally I play with AA off and increase other things.. only when EVERYTHING else is maxed out (on my 1920x1200 monitor mind you) do I turn on AF and THEN AA... as high as my video card will go with no NOTICEABLE stuttering.

I will tell you that aside from that one game I mentioned before (Where I actually lowed quality settings to enable AA) I have yet to ever notice AA looking any different then no AA.

 

[bluehaze013]

Originally posted by: soccerballtux


Cysis has Onslaught and Assault?

Those are the names of two of the maps/levels around the middle of the game.

 

[Apocalypse23]

Originally posted by: Ylurien
What is it with people who just HAVE TO PLAY CRYSIS AT THIS VERY MINUTE?

I played the demo, thought it was pretty cool, but then told myself that I will not be able to play this for a while. I knew that the hardware that would be required to play the game (at graphical settings that would not induce headaches) would not be released for many months. I knew this, and so did many of you (be honest), yet you still had to rush out and buy the thing. You know it's going to be a MUCH more satisfying experience at 60fps with all eye candy compared to 35fps with a little bit of eye candy. Why ruin the experience for yourself by finding out how every weapon works, how the AI functions, where everything is, etc. with a video card that doesn't do the game justice?

So why did you buy the game? It's your fault - you knew better but you did something stupid. Then you go out and buy a mediocre 8800GTS instead of demanding that Nvidia make an actual next-gen card. If you are stepping up from a 7 series card then fine, but if you're spending all this money on a 3870x2 coming from an 8800GTS then you are sending the message to the chip companies that this sort of increase in performance is adequate, and those companies WILL NEVER GET OFF THEIR A$$ES to do anything about the situation.

So thanks to all the people who keep spending their money on these half-ass cards.

/bitterness

ROFL DUDE RELAX

the stupid crysis was BUNDLED with the 8800 gTS from evga, and i quit playing crysis after 30 minutes the 1st time i played it, i am not complaining about CRYSIS, it just came with a 8800 gTS so i expected it to be played properly. All in all the 3870x2 is the winner and i dont carea bout crysis as much, so take crysis out and ill take the 3870x2.

Also, i just newly built a new computer for myself, so there is no harm in testing sometihng and giving feedback about it. I don't regret what i did at all.

I blame nvidia for being idiotic with the crysis bundle with a 8800gts 512mb...just to lure consumers...what a marketing scam lol!

This card does manage to rougly handle all other games at 4xAA 16xAF but that was only at 1440x900, and i have further testing to be done at higher resez.

 

[Piuc2020]

Wow guys, chill out.

Well Apocalypse and Ylurien, your respective train of thoughts represent everything that is wrong with the mind of the PC Gamer and what is killing it.

1. You don't need max settings to enjoy a game "properly".
2. Crysis at medium/high settings looks better than anything else out there and runs well at 1280x1024/1600x1200 (depending on your FPS tolerance) on an $800 PC.
3. Crysis has a high and very high setting so that it's a decent benchmarking tool and showcase software for years to come.

Yes Crysis is a demanding game but it still manages to run good and look good at lower settings, just not the highest, if you are going to bitch about it then go get yourself a Tri-SLI 8800 Ultra setup and stop whining because Crysis at Very High is not meant for this gen of cards but Crysis at medium/high IS (and it manages to look better than anything else out there at those settings).

Seriously, do you guys lack any observation skills and common sense AT ALL? CryTek seriously underestimated the stupidity of the average person.

 

[Tempered81]

yeah, you can take "very high" out of the box crysis and run it on a 8800gt at 20 fps in your rig, and then run at 47fps on a tri-sli 8800 ultra rig with similar specs. Or, you can modify the c_vars with some basic knowledge of 3d performance variables and manually configure your drivers commands. If you do this, you can achieve what people call "fake very high" or "very high on the cheap" at about 40 fps (and its a small sacrafice for image quality.) I agree with others who have said crysis is a steaming pile of horrible coding. if you go and play call of duty 4 (for example) you will see incredible graphics that are on par with crysis, yet seem to render at 3 times the framerate without taxing the system. This is a result of great programming. Whoever it was at crytek that created those awesome photo-realistic island map environments really knows their stuff. The guys who slapped a 3d video game on top it were half-assing it at best. the 1.1 update is a sham as well. Just modify your c_vars. If you don't know how, google "cuban's crysis v1.3"
I did this and kept all the "goodies" like god-rays, high quality water, smoke & effects, battledust, edgeAA, and every other "dx10 effect" on my dx9 winxp 8800gt rig and saw an incredible increase in FPS.

Nothing can be done to enjoy that game running steadily over 70FPS at 1920 4xaa 16xaf very high, (or even the new "ultra high" mods) until next-gen single gpu & new cpu architecture arrives.

 

[bluehaze013]

Just found a fix for my slowdown problems with Crysis. If you are running 64bit Vista, instead of launching the game from the games panel, go to the bin32 directory of Crysis and launch it from there. This will run 32 bit dx10 Crysis and it has no slowdowns like the 64 bit version does with 3870x2! I am getting FPS as high as 60 in some areas now ROFL went back to some game saves of areas that used to drop in the teens and they now run 30fps. Such an easy fix can't believe I didn't try this sooner. Settings are 1920x1200 Object and Texture detail Very High, Shaders, Motion Blur and Water High, Everything else medium. FPS still average 45FPS in most areas but not having those drops in the teens really makes the game alot more enjoyable to play.

 

[lopri]

Originally posted by: Blacklash
People who "cant play Crysis well" should try high shader and the rest set to medium. You should get a good balance of performance and IQ like that. I was able to run it with an overclocked HD 3850 256Mb @ 1680x with light AF like that fine.

Yes. Forget about 'Very High', or even 'High'. At medium setting it looks better than many other games out there. If I pick 3 most performance killing options:

- Shaders
- Shadows
- Post-processing

And among the 3, the shaders give the most noticeable visual boost, IMO. So try setting the shaders at high and everything else at medium. A 8800 GT or HD 3870 should handle it pretty well. And don't even think about AA.