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Do you flash your lights to warn other motorists of cops?

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Originally posted by: LeeTJ
Originally posted by: Ultima
Originally posted by: HappyPuppy
People who do that should be arrested. I enjoy watching scofflaws get caught.

Why should they be arrested? So that the cops can eat more donuts? If you lived in Quebec you'd understand... 😉 They design the highways specifically to make it easier to set up speed traps and catch speeders. I was amazed at this but it's true, you notice it immediately as you cross over from Ontario.

you make it sound like it is wrong to make it easier to catch people breaking the law. 🙁 I mean i'm a speeder too, but if i get stopped i don't blame the state or province because they deliberately designed the roads to be easier to catch speeders. SHEESH, what kind of logic is that?

Because in doing so they're making the road more dangerous, which is more important to me than them being able to eat more donuts at Tim Hortons.
 
Originally posted by: Gr1mL0cK
No. If they are a speeding demon weaving in and out of lanes thinking they are cool guy, nah sorry.

You're talking about dumbass speeding 🙂 I wouldn't flash for them either. Autobahn style speeders are fine by my book though. Those who use the left for passing and signal, keep a respectful distance etc.. which is usually how I drive even if I'm going 90mph.
 
Definitely... though I've read stories that people have been pulled over for that... don't know what they were written up for though.
 
Originally posted by: CadetLee
Originally posted by: rgwalt
Originally posted by: Rastus
Cops don't mind people doing that because it makes people slow down, which prevents accidents. Sometimes they park in the most conspicuous place they can, so that when word gets out that they are there, people for miles around slow down.

They do not need to set speed traps to get revenue, after all the numbers of people who speed makes it so they can pull over cars as fast as they can and write tickes

Then why does a police officer's performance evaluation depend on the number of tickets (s)he writes? Why do towns/cities allow people to double a fine to get out of a ticket, or go on diversion? Speeding tickets are used to make money, pure and simple.

Ryan

I wasn't aware that performance evaluations were based on the number of tickets written...are you positive on that?

Well, I would guess it would vary from area to area, but I can safely say that it does. Otherwise, why would the police even worry about giving tickets for speeding? If the number of tickets written didn't influence their evaluations, they could take naps in their cars instead of clocking speeders. Don't say "because it is their job". Police officers are human beings, and most all mean well. However, if writing tickets didn't matter to their evaluation, I doubt we would see so many tickets written.

Also, has anyone ever noticed more police out running radar towards the end of the month? They need to get the numbers up before their evaluation.

Ryan
 
I heard it's illegal and you can be ticketed if a cop sees you warning other motorists by doing that.

I still do it myself and I appreciate it when people do it for me.
 
I like it when it's done for me but no I don't do it, because if you do it to a cop he's gonna pull you over and definitely be upset.
 
Originally posted by: HappyPuppy
People who do that should be arrested. I enjoy watching scofflaws get caught.

dang, once again i find myself in total agreement with HappyPuppy :Q

if you want to speed, expect to get caught once in a while, just look at it as a "premium" you pay for an extra service , ie speeding, its like being a subscriber to AT 😛
 
I think it's illegal. Obstruction of justice or something like that.
I saw that on TV. Some girl was warning hookers that vice squad was out working, and got arrested.
 
Originally posted by: FoBoT
Originally posted by: HappyPuppy
People who do that should be arrested. I enjoy watching scofflaws get caught.

dang, once again i find myself in total agreement with HappyPuppy :Q

if you want to speed, expect to get caught once in a while, just look at it as a "premium" you pay for an extra service , ie speeding, its like being a subscriber to AT 😛

Not that simple. Excessive speeding tickets don't just result in a simple paying of a fine and that is it. If you accumulate enough, you will be deemed a habitual offender and can lose your license for several years. In my state, they take it for four years, and fine you up to $5000. If you are caught driving in that 4 year period, even once, you will get a mandatory year in jail.

Edit: And in my state, NH, flashing is illegal, and you can get ticketed for it. I got pulled over for it once and I said the other driver had his high beams on. 😉
 
Originally posted by: rgwalt
Originally posted by: CadetLee
Originally posted by: rgwalt
Originally posted by: Rastus
Cops don't mind people doing that because it makes people slow down, which prevents accidents. Sometimes they park in the most conspicuous place they can, so that when word gets out that they are there, people for miles around slow down.

They do not need to set speed traps to get revenue, after all the numbers of people who speed makes it so they can pull over cars as fast as they can and write tickes

Then why does a police officer's performance evaluation depend on the number of tickets (s)he writes? Why do towns/cities allow people to double a fine to get out of a ticket, or go on diversion? Speeding tickets are used to make money, pure and simple.

Ryan

I wasn't aware that performance evaluations were based on the number of tickets written...are you positive on that?

Well, I would guess it would vary from area to area, but I can safely say that it does. Otherwise, why would the police even worry about giving tickets for speeding? If the number of tickets written didn't influence their evaluations, they could take naps in their cars instead of clocking speeders. Don't say "because it is their job". Police officers are human beings, and most all mean well. However, if writing tickets didn't matter to their evaluation, I doubt we would see so many tickets written.

Also, has anyone ever noticed more police out running radar towards the end of the month? They need to get the numbers up before their evaluation.

Ryan

yea, you said it yourself, if writing tickets didn't matter, you doubt there would be so many tickets written, which would mean that the officers aren't doing their job.

i don't flash lights to warn other motorists of cops. if you're speeding, you're endangering others. thats why there's a speed limit.

 
if you're speeding, you're endangering others. thats why there's a speed limit.


Yeah, all those people going 70MPH on a highway with a 65MPH are really "endangering others" much more so than those fine upstanding citizens going 65MPH...
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Originally posted by: Insane3D
if you're speeding, you're endangering others. thats why there's a speed limit.


Yeah, all those people going 70MPH on a highway with a 65MPH are really "endangering others" much more so than those fine upstanding citizens going 65MPH...
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speeding as defined by, you'll get a ticket for it. i've never met a cop yet who tickets people for going 70 in a 65.
 
I do it, seen people do it (though I know all of my local speed traps now). Some people even honk their horns.

Cops around here aren't supposed to have ticket/point quotas (made illegal by NJ legislature), they mostly need to be able to write reports. If they issue a warning, that's good enough. But I know suspect that they have monthly or quarterly quotas for number of warnings/tickets/pts for sure. Racial profiling is now illegal FINALLY but cops profile by car now... harrassment is fun. 😛

 
Would you warn thieves that the cops were on their way so they could get out of your neighbor's house?

I don't believe the laws about traffic speed are right, or the way the cops handle giving out tickets (rather than just stopping each speeder they see, one by one by one, after they finish writing the ticket for each one stopping another, they pick and choose, so people feel their odds of getting caught are low, rather than resulting in a "deterrent" where you think the odds of being caught are high), but if you break the law, and get caught, take the consequences and blame yourself.

People would rather have this "surreptitious" code and stuff to "cheat" the law than to do anything to change it. The only thing I bitch about with regard to police pulling me over for speeding 5 or 10 miles over the limit is knowing that I'm probably the only one they'll stop for hours just to frighten a few other speeders, unless they see someone weaving in and out or doing 100-plus MPH. I've never fought a ticket because they've all been accurate as to my speed, and I never will fight an accurate ticket.

The only thing that cops having quotas does is give them the ability to have a bare minimum of work they have to do, and they can relax as long as they're on track to meet the quota. Places that have quotas outlawed end up with "incentives" unofficially being given for cops to do things, or simply unofficial quotas. It's quite obvious that any cop who comes in with a bare minimum of tickets each day hasn't been stopping as many speeders as he could, which means he wasn't doing the best job he could, and the city/state only cares that they get a certain amount of money from the tickets each month. (I think most states do have a limit on how much a city's income can be derived from traffic tickets.)

Now, I know some people think it's wrong to suggest that cops are "relaxing" when they're meeting quota because cops have such a hard job. I understand they have a hard, dangerous job in many cases, but they voluntarily went into the job, and they get paid for it and can leave if they think the pay isn't enough, so expecting them to do more than just "scare" motorists, which seems to just make traffic worse, doesn't seem like much to ask for.
 
I do, especially on a road where the speed limit changes every 10 miles. It's easy to think you're not speeding if you're doing 40 in a 30 zone. I appreciate it when someone flashes me to let me know, so I just return the favor.
 
Originally posted by: LeeTJ
Originally posted by: Insane3D
if you're speeding, you're endangering others. thats why there's a speed limit.


Yeah, all those people going 70MPH on a highway with a 65MPH are really "endangering others" much more so than those fine upstanding citizens going 65MPH...
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speeding as defined by, you'll get a ticket for it. i've never met a cop yet who tickets people for going 70 in a 65.

Here's the weakness in that argument that someone is being more dangerous if they are doing over the speed limit. Speed limits are static, while road conditions are not. Going 75-80MPH in heavy traffic going 65MPH or so is on the reckless side. However, if you are travelling the 65MPH speed limit while the bulk of traffic is going 75-80MPH, you are actually posing more of a danger by going slower than everyone else. Also, going 75-80MPH on a wide open, 3 lane highway say early on a weekend morning with clear weather and light traffic is no more dangerous than travelling 65MPH, but doing that same speed in heavy traffic is more dangerous.


 
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