Do you fellow K7 people feel behind?

[touchmyichi]

With people running at 3.5 ghz w/ ease w/ the new C p4's.....Do you guys regret your amd purchase? Honestly I wish I would of held off a little and bought a 2.4 C and a springdale.

 

[MDE]

Hell no! My 2500 should run about the same overall speed as about a 3.0-3.2 P4 and I probably paid at least $50 less for my chip (than a 2.4), and probably less for my motherboard. Plus there's the "I'm cheap" factor...

 

[4x4expy]

Nope. I have a secondary system with a 2.4b at 2.92ghz and it has nothing on the amd at 2.4. I have seen people listing rigs with 2.4c's @ 3.4 or more and fsb~1000 and otherwise comparable systems, and benchmarks within a couple percent. If I had the money invested in my rig back, the p4c's would be tempting, but I have no regrets. And if I have no problems with it, I will likely run the mobo/cpu until the prescotts have been out for a while and it is clear which are the best bang for buck.

 

[NEVERwinter]

not actually... well, I don't think paying 150-200% more for 20-50% increase in performance is reasonable. (Quote from MonkeyDrive) Plus there's the "I'm cheap" factor...

 

[touchmyichi]

Yeah I'm thinking of getting a DLT3C or a 2500+ after I upgrade my mem. That might help things for me.

 

[lookouthere]

i actually feel behind cuz i am using Thunderbird 1Ghz. so probably will upgrade soon.

 

[Naruto]

For the price of one 2.4C, I could have gotten 3 t-bred 1800+ DLT3C chips, all good for 2.3ghz. Instead for the price of one 2.4C, I got a 1800+ @ 2.3ghz and a nforce 2 mobo and got to keep an extra $20 or so.

 

[Corporate Thug]

my rig runs everything just fine. i dont care if i'm a thousand 3dmarks behind

 

[HiTek21]

I am satisfied with my AMD setup. I don't care if it can't compete with the P4's I spent a couple hundred less and bought me a DVD burner.

 

[VisableAssassin]

not one damn bit.
to be honest if you can get a 2500+ to say 2.3ghz (maybe 2.4) or around there at say 220+ mhz FSB you will runlaps round that P4 and yet your dman near 1ghz "slower"
I only see P4s beating out 3000+ and 3200+'s at defaul speeds in tests that take advantage of SSE2 HT and other crap amd doesnt have but normally in a raw muscle power catagory the athlon may normally win..........bah besides ill bet ya my left lung that if you could get a barton...any barton to 3.0ghz itll run around a slap that P4 like a red headed step child in K-Mart

 

[pspada]

No, because Intel sucks and AMD kicks a$$.

 

[Mellman]

Originally posted by: pspada
No, because Intel sucks and AMD kicks a$$.

i'll second that!

always remember, its not Ghz that matters.....

 

[jswjimmy]

my 1800 can kill a 2ghz p4

 

[DivideBYZero]

I replaced my 1.5Ghz(from 1Ghz) AXIA with a $50 CPU and get 2.1Ghz on my old Motherboard.

Why would that be a bad thing?

In Intels world I would have had to upgrade the CPU and Mobo at the very least.

 

[solofly]

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
In Intels world I would have had to upgrade the CPU and Mobo at the very least.

And soon we'll find out if they do it again with upcoming Prescott CPU.

 

[Jeff7181]

Ask my buddy with a 2 Ghz P4B and a Ti4600 how happy he was when my XP1700 @ 1733 Mhz and my Ti4200 topped his 3DMark2001 score by 1000 points about 6 months ago... then ask him again how happy he is now that my XP2500 @ 2200 Mhz and my overclocked Ti4200 scores 3000 points higher than his for less than he paid.

 

[solofly]

Originally posted by: Jeff7181
Ask my buddy with a 2 Ghz P4B and a Ti4600 how happy he was when my XP1700 @ 1733 Mhz and my Ti4200 topped his 3DMark2001 score by 1000 points about 6 months ago... then ask him again how happy he is now that my XP2500 @ 2200 Mhz and my overclocked Ti4200 scores 3000 points higher than his for less than he paid.

Ask me how happy I was when I broke 14500 with my AMD rig (Barton2500 and Ti4400) and now I break 21000 with my Intel rig. It goes both ways...

 

[majewski9]

Originally posted by: solofly

Originally posted by: Jeff7181
Ask my buddy with a 2 Ghz P4B and a Ti4600 how happy he was when my XP1700 @ 1733 Mhz and my Ti4200 topped his 3DMark2001 score by 1000 points about 6 months ago... then ask him again how happy he is now that my XP2500 @ 2200 Mhz and my overclocked Ti4200 scores 3000 points higher than his for less than he paid.

Ask me how happy I was when I broke 14500 with my AMD rig (Barton2500 and Ti4400) and now I break 21000 with my Intel rig. It goes both ways...

you obviously didnt hit 21 k with TI 4400 .... so I dont see your point ?

 

[solofly]

Originally posted by: majewski9

Originally posted by: solofly

Originally posted by: Jeff7181
Ask my buddy with a 2 Ghz P4B and a Ti4600 how happy he was when my XP1700 @ 1733 Mhz and my Ti4200 topped his 3DMark2001 score by 1000 points about 6 months ago... then ask him again how happy he is now that my XP2500 @ 2200 Mhz and my overclocked Ti4200 scores 3000 points higher than his for less than he paid.

Ask me how happy I was when I broke 14500 with my AMD rig (Barton2500 and Ti4400) and now I break 21000 with my Intel rig. It goes both ways...

you obviously didnt hit 21 k with TI 4400 .... so I dont see your point ?

Even I did use the 9800 I would still be behind. You'll need a liquid cooled AMD rig to compete wit a air cooled Intel rig, bottom line.
BTW are you Polish?

 

[AkumaX]

i would like to see your intel rig w/ that ti4400 for a fair comparison, a concept you intel fanboys have chosen not to grasp

 

[solofly]

Originally posted by: AkumaX
i would like to see your intel rig w/ that ti4400 for a fair comparison, a concept you intel fanboys have chosen not to grasp

Take my word, AMD won't beat Intel while overclocked. Besides I own 5 AMD rigs and only 2 Intel so so much for being an Intel fanboy. I'm only an nVidia fanboy...

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: VisableAssassin
not one damn bit.
to be honest if you can get a 2500+ to say 2.3ghz (maybe 2.4) or around there at say 220+ mhz FSB you will runlaps round that P4 and yet your dman near 1ghz "slower"
I only see P4s beating out 3000+ and 3200+'s at defaul speeds in tests that take advantage of SSE2 HT and other crap amd doesnt have but normally in a raw muscle power catagory the athlon may normally win..........bah besides ill bet ya my left lung that if you could get a barton...any barton to 3.0ghz itll run around a slap that P4 like a red headed step child in K-Mart

I usually don't get into these brand jack sessions, but I have to take instance to the blantant lies....Hey whatever makes you ppl feel better!!!!

First off...Systems have many variables so they can be difficult to compare in most instances...


However a p4c 3.2ghz did beat the 3200+ quite handily in a lot of things..I can get the review if you need quotes...ALL DEFAULTS!!! NOw some of these Oc'd p4 2.4 and 2.6's that are doing 3.5 to 3.6ghz are running memory at much higher speeds and fsbs that are in the 1100-1200's.....Even at 3.2ghz with the 2.4 or 2.6c the performance would be better due to the higher fsb and likley high ram speeds. So that makes the 3200+ less comparable and now figure 3.6ghz!!!! You have nothing to compare to that on any oc'd barton I have seen short of the LN2 guys every once in awhile......


Jeff...cmon you know the 1733mhz xp is a xp2100+ and at the lower xp speeds the xp rating was usually faster then the p4 speed...NO new news here!!!! Ecspecially against a stock p4 which I don't believe there is anything called a p4b 2.0ghz..Don't make them!!!


To the author....

I wish my 2.4b@3.24 ghz was faster...I don't have HT and I don't have a DCDDR mobo yet....my only regrets is I didn't wait for a mobo upgrade until the canterwoods...

 

[anomaly]

Having used both extensively, a Barton 2500+ @ 2.3ghz, and a P4C @ 3.3ghz, im happy I went with the P4C. Why? Because I can encode movies AND play BF1942 AT THE SAME TIME. Sure I can encode as much at night, but during the night I will also be encoding on the P4C, so I will again be out ahead. Is the performance worth the $150 difference? If you are going to be web surfing, then no, you don't need anything more than a TBird 850. If you are gaming, do media compression, do file compression, rendering, etc, basically anything CPU INTENSIVE, then yes it's worth it.

 

[beatle]

At the time I got my NF7-S and 1700+ in early April. The P4C wasn't really an option for me. They were still too highly priced, as were the motherboards. I've considered "selling out" recently and going with Intel, but I'm really stuck on the Soundstorm audio of the nforce2 chipset. It was a major selling point for me being able to have all of my audio in dolby digital. I do quite a bit of media encoding, but I've since decided to offload that work to my old tbird, since I'm in no hurry.

 

[touchmyichi]

I dunno.... I mean I'm satisfied w/ my setup... But I feel a lot of envy when my friend brags about his 2.4 C @ 3.6. But yeah, whats nice about amd is for every p4 chip I might of bought, I could get 3 amd chips for that same price. So I feel I can upgrade a lot more frequently. I like having adjustible multipliers too .