Do you feel that people are always deserving of a second chance when they screw up?

[walla]

Yes. Forgiveness==divine.

 

[Brutuskend]

Ross, turn on your PM's....

 

[RossMAN]

Send me a PM here, I'm logged in now
http://brutuskend.com/phpBB/index.php

 

[QuitBanningMe]

Originally posted by: walla
Yes. Forgiveness==divine.

Forgiveness does not mean a second chance

 

[SilentZero]

Yes

 

[Brutuskend]

Originally posted by: RossMAN
Send me a PM here, I'm logged in now
http://brutuskend.com/phpBB/index.php

Done!

 

[KarenMarie]

Originally posted by: Astaroth33

Originally posted by: KarenMarie
depends....

if someone did something intentionally to hurt me, knew it would hurt me.. didnt care... and did it anyway... they are finished.
if someone was not thinking and fvcked up... yes.

of course, cheating is never excusable, nor forgivable.

But it is often understandable.

hmmm.. dunno.
in a world that gets confusing shades of grey... there are some things, to me anyway, that are strictly black or white.

my way of thinking is that cheating is wrong. it is not acceptable, not forgivable and not understandable. I can understand being unhappy in a relationship. I can understand being in a relationship that is unhealthy. But then you leave... and afterwards find someone else. afterwards.

I can find stuff that is wrong, yet still understandable. But I cannot ever think of a situation where cheating would be.

 

[RossMAN]

Still no PM on your forum, will check it tomorrow.

 

[Brutuskend]

Originally posted by: RossMAN
Still no PM on your forum, will check it tomorrow.

Check now...

 

[RossMAN]

Got it. Wow that's a tough one, I'll chat with you later.

Anything is possible but people have their limits.

 

[Brutuskend]

Originally posted by: RossMAN
Got it. Wow that's a tough one, I'll chat with you later.

Anything is possible but people have their limits.

Yeah, I know.

Touchy subject even now I'm sure.

 

[RossMAN]

Don't do anything yet, and definitely do not mention that last part of the PM.

Will PM you in a few days, right now I gotta get some sleep. Night Dave!

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: KarenMarie

Originally posted by: Astaroth33

Originally posted by: KarenMarie
depends....

if someone did something intentionally to hurt me, knew it would hurt me.. didnt care... and did it anyway... they are finished.
if someone was not thinking and fvcked up... yes.

of course, cheating is never excusable, nor forgivable.

But it is often understandable.

hmmm.. dunno.
in a world that gets confusing shades of grey... there are some things, to me anyway, that are strictly black or white.

my way of thinking is that cheating is wrong. it is not acceptable, not forgivable and not understandable. I can understand being unhappy in a relationship. I can understand being in a relationship that is unhealthy. But then you leave... and afterwards find someone else. afterwards.

I can find stuff that is wrong, yet still understandable. But I cannot ever think of a situation where cheating would be.

Heh... This is a topic for an entirely different thread

Suffice to say that by "understandable" I mean that one can understand the motives of the people involved, not that I approve of it.

 

[walla]

Originally posted by: QuitBanningMe

Originally posted by: walla
Yes. Forgiveness==divine.

Forgiveness does not mean a second chance

If you are being literal, no. But I think they're often related.

When I forgive a person that usually means I place enough trust in them that they have the ability to commit the same mistake once again.

In any case...I think everyone has the right to make a mistake once with the exception of particularly heinous anti-social or sociopathic crimes that maliciously destroy another persons life.

 

[Landroval]

Originally posted by: Brutuskend
If they really are repentant and you KNOW they have learned their lesson.

I try to show compassion but I also expect people will alter their behavior in the future.

 

[KarenMarie]

Originally posted by: Brutuskend

Originally posted by: RossMAN
Got it. Wow that's a tough one, I'll chat with you later.

Anything is possible but people have their limits.

Yeah, I know.

Touchy subject even now I'm sure.

man oh man... this is making me curious!!
Sure hope you work things thru brutuskend.

 

[Evadman]

Is this you we are talking about Dave? If so, then I wouldn't trust you as far as I could throw you

 

[UncleWai]

Originally posted by: KruptosAngelos

Originally posted by: UncleWai
Things like murder, rape, molesting children, I don't really see a point why we should give them a second chance. It's not like those people will discover the cure for cancer.

Have you ever met someone who has truly turned around from that way of life? I have, and they can be just as beneficial to society or simply as a friend.

BUt guess what, there's also repeated offenders. And guess what a lot of the sex offenders do, they go rape or molest children again. I prefer to see the victims not become victims and do well in a society then waiting for criminals to repent and turn their life around.

A much stricter sentence is simply the only way to deter potential offenders from committing a crime.

 

[Gurck]

For the most part no.

 

[InterpolAgent]

We are given many chances during the course of our lives. Although people may not see it. It's your responsibility to make full use of it. Even murderers repent for something they know was wrong. And I'm sure if they had a chance to turn back time, they'd undo their crimes.

 

[Koing]

Yes a second chance.

No a third chance.

Koing

 

[JoeKing]

nevar! I try to have them killed on the spot!

 

[lavagirl669]

Second chance, yes...but what if its like the 6th+ time they have screwed up?
I know I'm a dumbass for giving em that many chances, but
enough is enough...time to CUT the line completely.

 

[Skyclad1uhm1]

Originally posted by: KruptosAngelos

Originally posted by: chrisms
Yes. Always. I think some of you are full of sh!t when you say that, and I probably am too (considering I haven't face the extremes forigving people).

I'm not, and haven't had a hard time with it. Someone I hated most turned into a best friend once. I don't have grudges.

So if a Bin-Laden-Wannabe sets off a dirty bomb in a major US city, killing hundreds of thousands, you'd immediately forgive him if he'd say he was sorry and you'd let him babysit your kids?

 

[monk3y]

Yup... Everyone's made mistakes. The key is solving them.