Do you expect others to heed you or what you say?

mammador

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I don't get it, but some people really make me laugh. I don't know why, but some really think others must listen to them, or immediately like/respect them. I was with my gf in Subway the other day, and some 19 year old or so asked us for some change. We ignored him, but then he got irate lol.. I simply looked at him hard, and he backed down, but afterwards my gf and I laughed since human stupidity never ceases to amaze us.

Don't people get that nobody owes them their time, and that ultimately nobody gives a shit about you? :p
 

mammador

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OK. Well if you don't know how to get along with people, so be it. lol..
 

Kaido

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Do you expect others to heed you or what you say?

No, I'm just posting that based on your title...human nature is a funny thing. Like when people ask for advice, you spend a lot of time & effort helping them, and then they go and do something else totally opposite & random. Especially with computer help. Now I just tell people to buy whatever is on sale at Best Buy and buy a warranty with it :biggrin:

As for your OP, I think there are people who feel entitled. People don't have an obligation to give you a handout, so don't get uptight when someone doesn't throw you a bone if you're asking for change or anything like that. Usually it seems like the people who are actually homeless shrug it off because they're used to being shot down all day, but sometimes you get people who throw a fit because they feel entitled to control you. I dunno.

http://i.imgur.com/EnC9jO0.jpg
 

Murloc

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If he's a beggar, it's part of the act to make people feel guilty or threatened.
You're not expected to heed him or whatever.

For anything else, common courtesy is to be expected.
 

Kaido

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If he's a beggar, it's part of the act to make people feel guilty or threatened.
You're not expected to heed him or whatever.

For anything else, common courtesy is to be expected.

Yeah I remember there was a TA in college and at lunch he would often go around asking people for money. He had a job, he worked, you knew he had cash, and yet he tried to put a guilt trip on you, or he'd walk up with some buddies and try to pressure you. It's hard not to call people out or give them a lecture for acting like a scumbag because you want a vending machine snack and didn't bring any money. If it was a personal friend, that'd be different, but doing that to strangers out of laziness? No respect.

I can totally understand if you're in a wheelchair with no legs or something - yeah, I'll give you a donation if I can tell you're really in need. And you never know anyone's back story, but especially when you see a teenager asking for a handout who is wearing clothes, can walk & talk, and has no dirt under their fingernails - gimme a break. There's a big difference between being in need & being a mooch.
 

mammador

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No, I'm just posting that based on your title...human nature is a funny thing. Like when people ask for advice, you spend a lot of time & effort helping them, and then they go and do something else totally opposite & random. Especially with computer help. Now I just tell people to buy whatever is on sale at Best Buy and buy a warranty with it :biggrin:

As for your OP, I think there are people who feel entitled. People don't have an obligation to give you a handout, so don't get uptight when someone doesn't throw you a bone if you're asking for change or anything like that. Usually it seems like the people who are actually homeless shrug it off because they're used to being shot down all day, but sometimes you get people who throw a fit because they feel entitled to control you. I dunno.

http://i.imgur.com/EnC9jO0.jpg

lol.. so you enable shitty social skills. haha..

Watch out everybody, all in Kaido's neighbourhood heed the man! lolol..
 

mammador

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If he's a beggar, it's part of the act to make people feel guilty or threatened.
You're not expected to heed him or whatever.

For anything else, common courtesy is to be expected.

No, looked some local uni student.

But I know the teenage mind, it's all ego, no substance, but I don't shit like that bother me.
 

natto fire

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lol.. so you enable shitty social skills. haha..

Watch out everybody, all in Kaido's neighbourhood heed the man! lolol..

Ignoring someone that is talking to you, no matter what their stature in life, is a shitty social skill. You admitted to doing that in your first post, ergo, you have shitty social skills. I have done the same thing you are talking about, but I still felt a bit shitty.

This is subjective largely by where you grew up and what your parents were like.
 

mammador

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Ignoring someone that is talking to you, no matter what their stature in life, is a shitty social skill.

Says who? You? Kindly prove this as fact, not your belief.
You admitted to doing that in your first post, ergo, you have shitty social skills. I have done the same thing you are talking about, but I still felt a bit shitty.

This is subjective largely by where you grew up and what your parents were like.

Yeah... shaking hands is subjective. saying "hello" in kind when greeting is subjective. hmm.. PC shit aside, it depends on context/situation.

It's weak social skills to expect a stranger to accommodate you. it's also good social skills to accept that people come sometimes be rude. ;) I don't care, but my point is fact lol.. Nobody owes others their time, it's as is. I'll leave you to your anarchy.
 

Kaido

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lol.. so you enable crappy social skills. haha..

Watch out everybody, all in Kaido's neighbourhood heed the man! lolol..

Wait, what? None of your responses are making sense o_O
 

mammador

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Just ribbing you. I can imagine most in your community laughing at you since they know they don't have to take you on.
 

z1ggy

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OP, this post examplifies how 100% of ATOT feels about you.

Nobody gives a shit what you say, now move along.

Btw, how does a internet troll like you manage to get a gf? Is she equally as troll-like? Or... the more likely scenario is that said g/f is fake.
 
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mammador

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Ok, I don't care about your opinion. If anything, you prove my point haha..
 

Kaido

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Just ribbing you. I can imagine most in your community laughing at you since they know they don't have to take you on.

Most people in my community laugh at me because they know they don't have to take me on when asking for spare change? :hmm:
 

natto fire

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Says who? You? Kindly prove this as fact, not your belief.


Yeah... shaking hands is subjective. saying "hello" in kind when greeting is subjective. hmm.. PC shit aside, it depends on context/situation.

It's weak social skills to expect a stranger to accommodate you. it's also good social skills to accept that people come sometimes be rude. ;) I don't care, but my point is fact lol.. Nobody owes others their time, it's as is. I'll leave you to your anarchy.

I never claimed it was a fact, because I don't troll like you do. I'll leave you to your delusion that being polite to people is anarchy and treating everyone as an inanimate object is just a fact of life.

I am not arguing with your theory, and you can truly get through life by being a jerk, in fact you will probably get further. I also agree that your bum's reaction was rude, and that he probably was a recreational panhandler, I used to see them all the time in Santa Fe. I also do not even expect the same politeness back, nor am I going to stop acknowledging people's existence.
 

Kaido

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and that he probably was a recreational panhandler

I remember reading an article about this, how there was a guy making like $40k a year tax-free panhandling for a living. Could have had a real job making a contribution to society, but was okay with asking for handouts and made enough to support himself. Makes you wonder how many people are out there doing that who don't really need to be doing it.
 

Kaido

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