Do you cheat on your schoolwork using the internet???

Analog

Lifer
Jan 7, 2002
12,755
3
0
Many of the 1,707 National Union of Teachers members asked said it was increasingly difficult to tell if the work had been downloaded from the net.

Text
 

rh71

No Lifer
Aug 28, 2001
52,844
1,049
126
The Internet didn't have the information it does today when I was in school. (And I'm only 26).
 

EagleKeeper

Discussion Club Moderator<br>Elite Member
Staff member
Oct 30, 2000
42,589
5
0
No - had to use the library.

Also, there was no Interneet at that time, barely calculators.
 

Mustangrrl

Golden Member
Oct 10, 1999
1,448
0
0
Originally posted by: LordJezo
It's not cheating. It's called using your available resources wisely.
I don't think it's cheating if you're using available information to help you prove your theory or give you stats you need, I always cited the websites I used. Now if someone is just copying someone else's text, then it's cheating, but if someone is researching, it's not.

Some people don't understand that there are valid research tools and journals/articles available on the internet, the same information a student would get from visiting a local library.
 

Jzero

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
18,834
1
0
Originally posted by: Mustangrrl
Originally posted by: LordJezo
It's not cheating. It's called using your available resources wisely.
I don't think it's cheating if you're using available information to help you prove your theory or give you stats you need, I always cited the websites I used. Now if someone is just copying someone else's text, then it's cheating, but if someone is researching, it's not.

I make sure I include the thread ID of all the great facts I get from the P&N forum.
 

edro

Lifer
Apr 5, 2002
24,326
68
91
How do you feel about "take home tests"? We had a Microprocessors 2 take home test, where I Asked Jeeves most of the questions that I didn't know off hand. I got an 'A'. Is that cheating? I could have spent 3 hours looking up each answer in the book, or I could have spent 20 minutes on the internet. I am just time conscious :D
 

acidvoodoo

Platinum Member
Jan 6, 2002
2,972
1
0
there are sites like essaybank.co.uk that had past coursework on it. when doin my math, i admit i looked on it, but it was garbage. alot of kids in my class were so confused about one piece of set coursework that they just downloaded it off that site, but the dumb thing was some of em didn't really read through it, and the coursework they downloaded was the same topic, but like a different investigation, one of my friends did that and he was so lucky to not get questioned about it, cause he was told "ahh louis the examiners are still holding on to your work sending it somewhere else to get marked cause it's completely different"

this is high school though so it doesn't really matter :S
 

Jzero

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
18,834
1
0
Originally posted by: edro13
How do you feel about "take home tests"? We had a Microprocessors 2 take home test, where I Asked Jeeves most of the questions that I didn't know off hand. I got an 'A'. Is that cheating? I could have spent 3 hours looking up each answer in the book, or I could have spent 20 minutes on the internet. I am just time conscious :D

Let's face it. In "The Real World" if you don't know something, you're going to look it up somewhere instead of just winging it.

Although, sometimes takehomes specify that you can only use notes, textbook, etc. In that case...yes, it's cheating.

Disirregardless, it's still stupid to not allow you to do that.
 

Jeff7181

Lifer
Aug 21, 2002
18,368
11
81
Well school is all about grades unfortunately... so the schoolwork and tests are pretty meaningless anyway... so it doesn't really matter a whole lot if you cheat... in fact, if you cheat by looking up info on the internet, that's probably a good thing, cause it teaches you to be resourceful. Downloading a written paper and submitting it as your's in wrong, however.
 

aircooled

Lifer
Oct 10, 2000
15,965
1
0
Cheating is really just accelerated learning. :)

I don't know the answer, I read the answer, now I know the answer...... ;)
 

Jeff7181

Lifer
Aug 21, 2002
18,368
11
81
Originally posted by: aircooled
Cheating is really just accelerated learning. :)

I don't know the answer, I read the answer, now I know the answer...... ;)

Only temporarily.
 

Jzero

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
18,834
1
0
Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: Jzero
Disirregardless, it's still stupid to not allow you to do that.

:Q

I learned that one from Bill Cosby.
People use irregardless despite it being a double-negative because they think it sounds more sophisticated. Well if that's the case, if you want to sound even MORE sophisticated, you should use DISIRREGARDLESS! Not only is it longer, it's a triple negative so it's still negative!
 

zimu

Diamond Member
Jun 15, 2001
6,209
0
0
Originally posted by: aircooled
is using a calculator cheating at math?

yeah; the google calculator, it can do some pretty amazing things!
 

compudog

Diamond Member
Apr 25, 2001
5,782
0
71
There was no intar-web when I was in skool. I cheeted from my nayboor.


But seriously, If I were in school, I would not cheat using the Internet.
 

thraxes

Golden Member
Nov 4, 2000
1,974
0
0
Originally posted by: zimu
Originally posted by: aircooled
is using a calculator cheating at math?

yeah; the google calculator, it can do some pretty amazing things!

So can my TI-92...

And yes, we are allowed to use them in exams, as we get marked on the methods used to solve a problem (this has to be written and commented, step by step), not the solution itself. The profs just want to know that we understand how the calculations work.

The internet is a resource, a resource that should be and is used for research. Prohibiting it's use is as futile as trying to stop the rising of the sun each day. The texts that I I have written until now are mostly based off facts and tables from the internet. All sources are always quoted. Not just internet but also books, magazines and personal interviews with people involved are always named in my texts.
 

Cuda1447

Lifer
Jul 26, 2002
11,757
0
71
Originally posted by: Jzero
Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: Jzero
Disirregardless, it's still stupid to not allow you to do that.

:Q

I learned that one from Bill Cosby.
People use irregardless despite it being a double-negative because they think it sounds more sophisticated. Well if that's the case, if you want to sound even MORE sophisticated, you should use DISIRREGARDLESS! Not only is it longer, it's a triple negative so it's still negative!


Very nice indeed, my mission is to use that word today.