Do you belive life is predetermined/fate? **poll**

Bitek

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No, but I was destined to answer that in this poll. The purpose of my life is now complete....
 

Crono

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Originally posted by: aceofskies05
sorry I couldn't figure out the poll, and by destined i mean pre-determined

You could change the title to "Do you believe in fate/predestination?" and it would make more sense. I understand what you mean, though, so it's not a problem for me :)

And the answer is "yes, I do".
 

irishScott

Lifer
Oct 10, 2006
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On a serious note, yes, kinda.


To represent it mathematically, a line on a graph where the y axis ranges from complete order to complete randomness (Let the X axis be time), the line is horizontal and infinitely close to complete randomness.

In other words, there's an INSANE amount of possible futures, but not an infinite amount. Thus one of those futures will be followed. So in that sense it is predetermined.

Which future is taken is determined by the person. This cannot be predicted.
 

TanisHalfElven

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Originally posted by: aceofskies05
answer the poll

edit " predetermined"

nope. i believe man makes his own fate. but i do belive god has some hand in steering him one way or the other. but in the end it comes down to individual choice.
 

Skeeedunt

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Oct 7, 2005
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Not in that "everything is going to work out for the best" kind of way, but I do wonder whether everything's already been set into motion and is bound to unfold in a certain way, a la determinism.
 

sash1

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sometimes, yes i do believe that our lives are all predetermined.
 

irishScott

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Originally posted by: aceofskies05
what about karma

Makes sense to me. You good good things, good things happen to you. You do bad things, sh!t happens to you.

It's not perfect, but people on the whole will recognize who is good and who is bad. Good people will generally be respected. Bad people will generally NOT be respected.

In short, people who do good things are generally more likely to be successful (financially and otherwise).
 

linkgoron

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Mar 9, 2005
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Originally posted by: irishScott
On a serious note, yes, kinda.


To represent it mathematically, a line on a graph where the y axis ranges from complete order to complete randomness (Let the X axis be time), the line is horizontal and infinitely close to complete randomness.

In other words, there's an INSANE amount of possible futures, but not an infinite amount. Thus one of those futures will be followed. So in that sense it is predetermined.

Which future is taken is determined by the person. This cannot be predicted.

WTF are you talking about? The fact that there's more than one option is why life isn't predetermined. even if you have only two options instead of gazzilion.

Which future is taken is determined by the person. This cannot be predicted.[/
:confused:
 
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SlitheryDee

So lets say we get rid of that european dude's thingy that says you can't tell exactly where something is and where it's going at the same time.

Now you can tell where everything is and where it's going. Couldn't you then predict the future with 100% certainty?

Lets go back to the real world. We can't know exactly where something is and where it's going at the same time, but whether we can know it or not everything is still somewhere and going somewhere. The only change is our ability to detect both at the same time. The future predicted in the hypothetical universe and the one that comes to pass in the unpredictable universe would be the same.
 

irishScott

Lifer
Oct 10, 2006
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Originally posted by: linkgoron
Originally posted by: irishScott
On a serious note, yes, kinda.


To represent it mathematically, a line on a graph where the y axis ranges from complete order to complete randomness (Let the X axis be time), the line is horizontal and infinitely close to complete randomness.

In other words, there's an INSANE amount of possible futures, but not an infinite amount. Thus one of those futures will be followed. So in that sense it is predetermined.

Which future is taken is determined by the person. This cannot be predicted.

WTF are you talking about? The fact that there's more than one option is why life isn't predetermined. even if you have only two options instead of gazzilion.

Which future is taken is determined by the person. This cannot be predicted.[/
:confused:

I'm saying it's predetermined in the sense that there's not an infinite number of futures. Say there were 2 possible futures. It is predetermined that you would take one of those 2.

As opposed to TRUE non-predetermination in which case there would be infinite futures and you could make your own future from scratch.

As for which one you take that IMO cannot be determined.