Do you believe Leviticus 18:22 says homosexual marriages are wrong?
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Originally posted by: CTho9305
Take the bible literally all the time, or never.
Christianity sure is a modern religion!
Screw the Bible. Religions and religious leaders interpret the Bible any way they damn well please to suit their views.
GasX
Lifer
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Here is the text:
February 05, 2003
WHY CAN'T I OWN CANADIANS?
Laura Schlessinger is a US radio personality who dispenses advice to people who call in to her radio show. Recently, she said that homosexuality is an abomination according to Leviticus 18:22 and cannot be condoned under any circumstances. The following is an open letter to Dr. Laura penned by a US resident:
Dear Dr. Laura:
Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I have learned a great deal from your show and I try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind him or her that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate. I do need some advice from you however, regarding some of the specific laws and how to follow them.
a) When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord (Lev. 1:9). The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?
b) I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?
c) I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness (Lev. 15:19-24). The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offence.
d) Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify?
Why can't I own Canadians?
e) I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sunday (the Sabbath).In the book of Exodus verse 35:2 it clearly states he should be put to death.
Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?
f) A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination (Lev. 11:10), it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this?
g) Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?
h) Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev.19:27. How should they die?
i) I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?
j) My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev. 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? (Lev.24:10-16). Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14). I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you can help. Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging.
Your devoted disciple and adoring fan."
You're taking the Bible as if it is one entity that either all of it is true or all of it is false. But the bible is a historical accumulation of different texts with different authors and different histories.
The text was found at:
http://www.liola.com/archives/000622.php
February 05, 2003
WHY CAN'T I OWN CANADIANS?
Laura Schlessinger is a US radio personality who dispenses advice to people who call in to her radio show. Recently, she said that homosexuality is an abomination according to Leviticus 18:22 and cannot be condoned under any circumstances. The following is an open letter to Dr. Laura penned by a US resident:
Dear Dr. Laura:
Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I have learned a great deal from your show and I try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind him or her that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate. I do need some advice from you however, regarding some of the specific laws and how to follow them.
a) When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord (Lev. 1:9). The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?
b) I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?
c) I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness (Lev. 15:19-24). The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offence.
d) Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify?
Why can't I own Canadians?
e) I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sunday (the Sabbath).In the book of Exodus verse 35:2 it clearly states he should be put to death.
Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?
f) A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination (Lev. 11:10), it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this?
g) Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?
h) Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev.19:27. How should they die?
i) I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?
j) My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev. 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? (Lev.24:10-16). Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14). I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you can help. Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging.
Your devoted disciple and adoring fan."
You're taking the Bible as if it is one entity that either all of it is true or all of it is false. But the bible is a historical accumulation of different texts with different authors and different histories.
The text was found at:
http://www.liola.com/archives/000622.php
Originally posted by: Encryptic
Originally posted by: CTho9305
Take the bible literally all the time, or never.
Christianity sure is a modern religion!
Screw the Bible. Religions and religious leaders interpret the Bible any way they damn well please to suit their views.
They sure do
Yes I do believe that the BIBLE IS RIGHT NO MATTER WHAT! AND NO I DO NOT LIKE homosexuals AT ALL!
Puts on his flame pants.
Puts on his flame pants.
A quick conjecture:
You will notice that all of those questions are based off Old Testament books. You must remember in Christianity, that things changed when Jesus came into existence. The older laws of the Old Testament had their meanings clarified or completely changed through Jesus's teachings. If you read the new testaments, you will find that some of these absurd questions are quickly answered.
You will notice that all of those questions are based off Old Testament books. You must remember in Christianity, that things changed when Jesus came into existence. The older laws of the Old Testament had their meanings clarified or completely changed through Jesus's teachings. If you read the new testaments, you will find that some of these absurd questions are quickly answered.
Methinks someone doth protest too much.
Especially someone who wears "flame pants".
Do they look anything like these perchance?
I think that somewhere there is a statement which says that the rules apply to everyone or something like that.
I think Orthodox Jews do follow the Old Testament law ( I could be wrong though...I'm no expert on Jewish faith). Many will not cut the hair on the sides of their head, eat certain foods, etc. I would assume the cotton/polyester blend would be included. As would no tattoos.
rudeguy
Lifer
- Dec 27, 2001
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I usually dont partake in religion threads due to my own confusion on the subject. But let me ask you guys a question. What would this world be without religion?
Imagine a world where we are just living for the now, instead of some great goal. Would the world be the same place?
Imagine a world where we are just living for the now, instead of some great goal. Would the world be the same place?
Nah, I dont see whats wrong with someone putting their penis up someones ass. I mean, that seems natural doesnt it?
btw, the debate isnt about whether the bible is all wrong, or all right. The main arguments are that most of what that guy listed are based on cultures/times in history, certain laws have been agreed to be for a certain time period (slaves, etc I guess) and others were just wrong in general (homosexuality).
And yes, the Bible is confusing/contradictory if you just read it through pretending its a currently written novel.
btw, the debate isnt about whether the bible is all wrong, or all right. The main arguments are that most of what that guy listed are based on cultures/times in history, certain laws have been agreed to be for a certain time period (slaves, etc I guess) and others were just wrong in general (homosexuality).
And yes, the Bible is confusing/contradictory if you just read it through pretending its a currently written novel.
Nah, I dont see whats wrong with someone putting their penis up someones ass. I mean, that seems natural doesnt it?
btw, the debate isnt about whether the bible is all wrong, or all right. The main arguments are that most of what that guy listed are based on cultures/times in history, certain laws have been agreed to be for a certain time period (slaves, etc I guess) and others were just wrong in general (homosexuality).
And yes, the Bible is confusing/contradictory if you just read it through pretending its a currently written novel.
btw, the debate isnt about whether the bible is all wrong, or all right. The main arguments are that most of what that guy listed are based on cultures/times in history, certain laws have been agreed to be for a certain time period (slaves, etc I guess) and others were just wrong in general (homosexuality).
And yes, the Bible is confusing/contradictory if you just read it through pretending its a currently written novel.
Hmm I think someone wrote a song about that once... british fellow... I think he died some years back. Shot by Holden Caulfield. What was his name? L-something. Jerry Lee Lewis! That's it.
l2c
You mean a world where the Twin Towers weren't knocked down due to us being infidels? A world where the Middle East is a peaceful area that we can all visit and enjoy? A world where people weren't persucated(spelling?) for their beliefs (since they had none)? How about one where a bunch of "priest" haven't had their way with children?
I could go on listing more of the great things relegion has done for us over the centuries, but I believe I made my point.
While I don't neccessarily agree with or beleive the bible, you asked me to interpret a passage.
I beleive that passage implies gay marriage is wrong. However, it doesn't say anything about lesbian relationships.
I beleive that passage implies gay marriage is wrong. However, it doesn't say anything about lesbian relationships.
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