Vic
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Your attitude did not reflect studiousness. Quite the contrary, it stank of that false democratic ideal of "ignorance is superior."Originally posted by: InfectedMushroom
Vic, there is a big difference between studying it and believing it. I hope you know that.
I never said studying it is bad. Actually it might be great way to learn what NOT to follow blindly in the future.
Anyone who has ever done any research on the bible should know that its a canon, or a collection of short-stories from second hand authors.
I wont say that I believe in God or any other being. I was raised in a Catholic environment by baptist parents so my level of religious confusion is high. I will say that I believe in the concep to the divine and that we alone are not responsible for miracles. I believe there is a divine spirit or being but naming or labeling it for our own specific reliqious purposes is wrong.
I wont say that I believe in God or any other being. I was raised in a Catholic environment by baptist parents so my level of religious confusion is high. I will say that I believe in the concep to the divine and that we alone are not responsible for miracles. I believe there is a divine spirit or being but naming or labeling it for our own specific reliqious purposes is wrong.
Originally posted by: Vic
Your attitude did not reflect studiousness. Quite the contrary, it stank of that false democratic ideal of "ignorance is superior."Originally posted by: InfectedMushroom
Vic, there is a big difference between studying it and believing it. I hope you know that.
I never said studying it is bad. Actually it might be great way to learn what NOT to follow blindly in the future.
Wrong. Belief without logic is ignorance.
My view is that I can't prove or disprove the existence of a unique god. But the existence of one is a very small statistical probability. With the lack of evidence I think there isn't one, and choose not to be an ignorant blind follower.
Vic
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i know that situation.
mrs spamela was raised by a Catholic dad & Assembly of God mom &
was forced to attend both Catechism classes and Assembly of God sunday school.
she was a really confused kid until she decided in her teens she was Catholic.
Originally posted by: Vic
LOL. So you DO believe in astrology. You might want to reconsider your hypocracy.
And moving on, only a mental moron believes that believing in God is equivalent to believing in Santa Claus, or that people only have such faith because of the fear of death. I pity your shallowness and lack of spirituality, although I am well aware that that is by no means unusual here. It's not that I actually care about what you believe in, just your ignorant attitude in insulting the beliefs of others.
If you're curious as to my own personal beliefs (and before you make some wild and inaccurate assumption), I posted them early on in this thread, somewhere about the 60th post.
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Heh. You mean people like classy? :laugh:
I'm sure he'll flame me again for this, but that ain't faith, that's a self-righteous sense of entitlement. "I know God loves me because he got my thieving relative off the hook and me off the smack."
People of educated faith do not seek nor ask for signs. The entire idea of God is predicated on being a righteous, moral, ethical, successful, upstanding person. An example that other people want to be like. A leader, not a follower.
This could be a long conversation about the exact nature of what an actual righteous belief in God is and can do for an individual, but suffice to say that it is no suprise to me that the happiest, most successful people I have met in this world have always had a strong faith, and the least happy, least successful people I have met never had. There is a reason for this, and it has to do with how individuals view the world, and how they speak to themselves. It has to do with being capable of facing their pains, forgiving themselves, and finding the hope to struggle on with an endless optimism, not just for themselves but for everyone. In a way, you could say that God is within, and not without. But then again, your perception and attitude of the world is within, is it not?
Anyway, I'm stepping off the pulpit now, as I don't know why I climbed up here to begin with. If you wish to condemn that primitive version of religion you mention in your sig, by all means go ahead. I sometimes do that myself. But I would ask you to remember that other, more educated, more enlightened versions of faith can and do exist.
Anyone who wants to flame this may feel free, as I think I'll leave this thread now.
i WANT TO BE SAVED... WHAT MUST i DO? WHAT mUST i bELIEVE?
Y, JESUS CHRIST IS MY SAVIOR.
AMEN.
AMEN.
AMEN.
AMEN.
I believe that Jesus is the son of God....
But, I don't live as a Christian...More like a pagan:evil:
But, I don't live as a Christian...More like a pagan:evil:
Mmm...this reminds me of something I heard a girl say recently.
"There are only THREE really important commandments."
"Thou Shalt NOT kill"
"Thou Shalt NOT steal"
Annnnnddd...
"Thou Shalt accept the Lord Jesus Christ as thine saviour."
...I asked her to show me where THAT commandment was in her bible (she carried it in her backpack), and she opened up to it. IT WAS A FVCKING ADLIB...IN A STUDENT BIBLE
Just further reinforcing my belief that modern catholics are IGNORANT
"There are only THREE really important commandments."
"Thou Shalt NOT kill"
"Thou Shalt NOT steal"
Annnnnddd...
"Thou Shalt accept the Lord Jesus Christ as thine saviour."
...I asked her to show me where THAT commandment was in her bible (she carried it in her backpack), and she opened up to it. IT WAS A FVCKING ADLIB...IN A STUDENT BIBLE
Just further reinforcing my belief that modern catholics are IGNORANT
and all black people can dance, all japs are smart, all white people have whiny voices, and all australians are criminals. right?
I am not a christian, nor do I believe that Jesus Christ is my savior. I pretty much settle for agnosticism. So essentially, my answer to all questions about god is "maybe".
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