Do you believe in the Big-Bang theory?

[Napalm381]

<< idiot >>

Perhaps you could provide me with some examples of reputable professors publishing things which they know to be false.



<< THINKING, using my own mind, to come up with my own conclusion and belief, moron. >>

Sorry, last time I checked that was not a valid academic reference. Web pages, textbooks, journals, etc are. Try putting &quot;thinking&quot; as a footnote sometime and see how far it gets you.



<< << as measured on the Earth >> >>

So, a chemistry major disagrees with the physics of atomic clocks? Perhaps you could explain your skepticism in some sort of quantitive fashion....<ahem>.

 

[Thom]

it wasn't an atomic clock that they sent to the moon.

Einstein almost destroyed the career of Niels Bohr when he said that quantum physics was wrong. do YOU believe in quantum physics now? is it written in one of you precious text books.



<< Sorry, last time I checked that was not a valid academic reference. Web pages, textbooks, journals, etc are. Try putting &quot;thinking&quot; as a footnote sometime and see how far it gets you. >>



you poor one dimensional little fool. how would anything new be encountered if people did not think, and only took what was written down to be lore? go back to your pokemon and barbie dolls.

 

[mikysee]

I believe in the Big-Bang theory.

 

[thraashman]

I believe in my personal theories. I've taken many hours and theorized alot to come up with something that makes sense and explains everything (even the possibility of a God). the basic premise is time had no beginning. When you get down to the most base particles of the universe, all you have is energy in its purest form. I feel that this is what the universe was before it took shape. And eventually all this chaotic energy began to form into solid mass. This process would have taken millions of years though (a &quot;big bang&quot; but a very long, drawn out one). And that over time things such as atoms and the basic elements of matter formed. Then after even more time, life formed in small versions (single-celled creatures) and then evolution occurred. If you wanna say God exists, my theory accounts for that possibility as well. If God exists, then at some point in the chaos, energy could have massed together and formed a conciousness. This mass of conscious energy would be able to manipulate the base forms of all energy. Even to the point of being able to begin life. This being would be a God. And theirs even the possibility of being able to manipulate time. Now this isn't my theory in its entirety, but it's the basics of it. So yes and no for there being a &quot;Big Bang&quot;.

 

[ElFenix]

yes. i can even observe the after affects. 1% of snow on TVs is leftover radiation from the big bang.

 

[Robert01]

Big Bang theory? What a joke. It's like putting a bomb in a print shop, blowing it up, and in the remains is a dictionary.

 

[classy]

Yea I believe in the Big Band Theory..................................
The big bang was GOD SAID! The big bang, hehehehehehehehe. But don't be disappointed there will be a big bang. Wait till that sky bust wide open and Jesus comes back. Now that is going to be a really big bang.

 

[kduncan5]

Yes, I believe in the Big Bang Theory -kd5-

 

[Octoberblue]

No need to get so snippy guys. Discussions like this often generate more heat than light. We should try to do the opposite here.

The universe expansion is accelerating? I would be VERY surprised if that turns out to be correct. There are mountains of evidence over years of study around the world that support the decceleration of expansion.

College level textbooks frequently do contain incorrect and outdated information. In some cases this info has been 20 yrs. or more out of date and commonly known to be so by the scientific community at large, yet it still winds up in textbooks. Misinformation about the Peppered Moth experiments is quite common, as is the definitively discredited notion that Phylogeny is recapitulated in the embryonic development of a fetus.

On the Big Bang: one contemporary theory tries to discredit the big bang theory. Anybody attempting to do this from a scientific standpoint has a lot of gall. The evidence supporting big bang is abundant, mult-faceted, independant and very diverse.

 

[wviperw]

And while we're on this topic I have a question.

Why do public schools teach evolution and the big-bang theory as fact? I don't know if I am right about that fact, so correct me if I am wrong. (I don't go to one) Atheists always say not to force your believes on someone else, but isn't that what public schools are doing? I understand that they can't teach all the ideas of all the religions but they shouldn't be teaching evolution like it is history, that is if they are.

 

[lagvoid]

it might not be all correct but its the best one to me.

 

[Napalm381]

<< Atheists always say not to force your believes on someone else, but isn't that what public schools are doing? >>

This has been discussed numerous times before. Evolution is not a belief system as Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, etc are. It is a scientific theory based on empirical evidence and logical reason. Evolution is not the defining &quot;belief&quot; of atheists.

 

[Pyro]

I dotn think any of us have enough understanding of pure physics to accurately understand the whole theory. Furthermore science and technology are only in their infancy, but since science has brought us innumerable great things, I choose to put my faith in the best theory it can come up with. YES, I believe.

 

[Jalapeno]

Honestly?

Yes. It beats the Adam &amp; Eve theory by a longshot.

 

[datalink7]

Yes... I belive, but don't know

 

[giambi77]

if the universe never ends, then we will never know for sure if it does indeed end...right? hehe - just some food-4-thought.

 

[UG]

Robert01;

<...Big Bang theory? What a joke. It's like putting a bomb in a print shop, blowing it up, and in the remains is a dictionary...>

No, no it's not. You're not even close. Your analogy has no relevence to the scientific conceptualization of the Big Bang.

The Big Bang was not an explosion. The Big Bang was not an explosion of matter and energy into a pre-existing volume of empty space-time.

The 'Big Bang' is merely a term applied to the auto-differentiation of the primordial singularity simultaneously into all points in space-time, resulting in an equally sudden decrease in energy density from which congealled the matter particles of which you and I are made.

 

[vi edit]

<< The 'Big Bang' is merely a term applied to the auto-differentiation of the primordial singularity simultaneously into all points in space-time, resulting in an equally sudden decrease in energy density from which congealled the matter particles of which you and I are made. >>



Whoa. I think my brain just suffered a &quot;big bang&quot; :Q

 

[Octoberblue]

. Evolution is not a belief system as Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, etc are. It is a scientific theory based on empirical evidence and logical reason. Evolution is not the defining &quot;belief&quot; of atheists.

Have to disagree with that. Evolution started out as &quot;just a theory&quot;, but it's history is filled with all sorts of &quot;romance&quot;. Scientists are just as passionate as anyone else, and this is very evident in the enraptured inspiration many draw from this theory. In practical terms it has become more of a tautology than a theory, and for decades now has enjoyed the status of an unquestioned paradigm.

It does not deserve this status because it is a theory by definition and not a mere logical construct. Every other paradigm in science is either a general construct (such as the &quot;machine&quot; or &quot;mechanistic&quot; approach to describing various entities) or a set of physical laws like gravity, thermodynamics, and so forth. Unfortunately the definitions different people use when discussing evolution are very inconsistent, which only adds to the confusion.

So I guess we just took about a 14-billion year leap in our discussion. Talk about off topic!
Err, yeah, the big bang happened. I guess it's remotely possible that some other event took place that left evidence that we could misinterpet as a big-bang. But really this theory is pretty tight and definately makes the most sense.

BTW: you don't have to be all anti-theist to believe the big bang theory.

 

[bluegi]

no...if the big bang theory was correct than no one would even exist today..anything that would result from the big bang would be chaos meaning there would be no order. If earth were any further from the sun it would be too cold to live in and to hot to live in if the earth were too close to the sun. I could keep going but my point is how can such order be created by the big bang..

 

[RGN]

NO

 

[Moonbeam]

I love your thinking, blugi. Chances are pretty small that right here would be just perfect. I wonder if the chances that right here is just right would look anything like the volume of the solar system over the volume of the universe.

 

[DJ_Donut]

If you ever opened a compressed zip file with a wordpad its probably going to show complete chaotic mixture of all the alphabets, numbers and symbols you find on a keyboard. however, once you run it through an uncompression program, it turns into a very orderly and meaningful program file that serves a certain purpose.

so I'd say big-bang is like once huge on-going unzip sequence that needs infinite numbers of 1Gig homecomputers to finish

and if God do exist, he's is all the discovered and undiscovered mathmatics involed in this unzipping process.

 

[Czar]

no...if the big bang theory was correct than no one would even exist today..anything that would result from the big bang would be chaos meaning there would be no order. If earth were any further from the sun it would be too cold to live in and to hot to live in if the earth were too close to the sun. I could keep going but my point is how can such order be created by the big bang..

Its because in chaos there is order. The world is so big that we probably have another solar system a bit like this one with one planet closer to the sun than earth is and it still is stable. The world is so big that if there is a posibility of something then it is probably somewhere out there. We cant say yes or no about anything in these matters untill we know enough, and right now we know most about the big bang than any other theory about how the world was created.

 

[thEnEuRoMancER]

no...if the big bang theory was correct than no one would even exist today..anything that would result from the big bang would be chaos meaning there would be no order.

Not correct. To simplify the things: first couple of ____ (insert the correct time unit here, I don't know if it is minutes, days or years) after the BB the processes were governed by quantum phenomena, not by gravity or electromagnetical forces. Quantum phenomena by itself are unpredictable, there is only a certain probability this and this will happen. So it is necessarry that the process of expansion is not a simmetrical process, allowing for concentration of particles in certain places of expanding Universe. After this period the gravity kicked in. In places where particles were concentrated gravity would start pulling them together, forming the ancestors of todays galaxies. The same process on a smaller scale created our Solar system. To make it short: BB does not imply chaos in any way.

If earth were any further from the sun it would be too cold to live in and to hot to live in if the earth were too close to the sun. I could keep going but my point is how can such order be created by the big bang..

There are life forms on Earth, capable of surviving sub-zero temperatures as well as life forms capable of living in temperatures up to a couple of hundreed deg C. Man can survive lower average temperatures as today's (ice ages), but cannot survive much higher temperatures (due to coagulation of proteins). If the Universe weren't precisely as it is, there would be no man observing it right now. But that does not mean other life forms are not possible somewhere else in Universe, surviving at very different conditions.