Do you believe in reincarnation?

[apoppin]

I don't believe in reincarnation. It seems so very illogical.

And what is the point? Who cares if you keep coming back if you don't remember. Where is learning from experience?

 

[UG]

Reincarnation can't be proven to exist/operate by popular opinion polling. Nor can it be proven to exist/operate by unsubstantiated anecdotal testimony.

In the absence of unambiguous evidence that reincarnation exists/operates, believe in it if you must, but that belief is not proof that it actually does.

 

[01000101]

Correct me if i'm wrong, but didn't reincarnation used to be one of the beliefs of Christianity at one point in time.

 

[prontospyder]

appopin:

There is a reason about forgetting your past...for example, you were married to this great girl in your past life...this life, you're a guy and your wife is also a guy...if you remembered the past, you'll be pursuing this guy..relationships would be soooo messed up.

01000101:

That's true...but I guess many Christians still believe in the 2nd coming of Christ...that's reincarnation.

 

[jmcoreymv]

I love how people think they are right no matter what. Oh wait, thats called religion.

 

[apoppin]

The purpose of reincarnation as taught by many religions is for the soul to achieve perfection. However, if it cannot remember or learn from past mistakes what it the purose of reincarnation?

Anyway, I absolutely do not believe in it. I am just stating why it makes no sense to me.

BTW, the Bible does not teach it and early Christians never believed in it.

 

[IronMike]

Mem, when you started this thread didn't you know that you were mostly going to get either the "I don't believe in nothing, and you can't make me!" or the "It's not in the inspired word of God - so there!" folks?

 

[Warrenton]

Well Jesus is not reincarnated. Because of one thing (in the Biblical teachings) When He died the first time He was 33 years old, when He rose from the dead He was already grown, and the 2nd coming He will decend from Heaven grown. If this were reincarnation, He would have started over again and not been the same person.

Personally I beleive nobody dies, all live forever, either in Heaven or Hell. Of course Hell is called the Second Death because there you are without God, knowing He is real, but absolutely utterly unable to reach Him. That would be Hell. In Heaven you can reach Him directly. On Earth you can reach Him spiritually.

 

[Raj]

thats a very serious question. and a very good question.
I do not claim to know the answer, but can offer
Hinduism's view on it.



As Hindus we believe that birth is an endless cycle.
we are born and reborn many times. until the time
we are born for the last time. the state we are trying
reach is called "MOKSHA" or as said in Buddhism "Nirvana"
The basic belief of Hinduism is almost the same as Buddhism.
pleasure is the root of all evil. we chase pleasure and thats
we are reborn, until we can completely free ourselves from
this cycle, by ridding ourselves of desire, and pleasure.



I am not trying to sound like a philosopher. just what I
have learned in my many years living in India. If there's
a Hindu in the house. feel free to correct me if I said
something inaccurate.

 

[01000101]

Raj: you're correct, let me also add that the materialistic aspect of pleasure is the root of all evil.

 

[kduncan5]

I don't believe in reincarnation. I believe that any energy that the body contains, dissipates into space/time when the physical body expires.

Poof! You're gone.....-kd5-

 

[apoppin]

IronMike, what did you expect? This is no different from any other poll - "Do you believe in reincarnation?" You can expect aswers "yes", "no" and "maybe" as well as reasons for their belief. It's obvious you believe, but you didn't state any reasons other than 'other people believe it too'.

Saying it's not in the Bible is as good (or bad) a reason as any other.

 

[novon]

Yes, I do. After you die, you KNOW all and you are in the oneness, your every thought becomes your reality, and you figure out how much creative potential you can have as a soul/thought/energy experiencing the human condition (a mind&body enclosed in a limitless soul (your true self)), and how limitless, free, and unconditional your soul is, but knowing is one thing, and re-remember you true self (God), you can choose to reincarnate back to Earth, or forget everything, so that you may EXPERIENCE BECOMING your true self (love/god), and therefor understand yourself better. This cycle repeats (re-incarnation) for however long it takes you to re-remember your true self (god) then, you are back to your original form (as the all-knowing god), and once you reach this (nirvana etc.), you will realize that you want to restart the whole process, and re-experience yourself by erasing all memory of who you are and remembering yourself through the process of physical experience. You can however, choose to start over as a soul far along to path to nirvana, or even from the very begining, as a simple animal. But it's all for you to re-remember who you really are (God) and know yourself better. There is no judgment/punishment/opinion/right/wrong/devil, etc. Just unconditional love. We also have free-will, total free will, and total creative potential (we are creators IE made in the image of God) and that's a gift we often don't use in this society. There is not "time" as we understand it, it is all in the eternal moment of now, it was created like this. Everything that is going to happen, has ever happened, is happening now. It's more like a vertical string and our prespective on this is time, but we really move up and down instead of past to future. But there is only the now, and God is more eternal that we can understand fully. God is all that is, good and bad, and you have to have the bad to know what good is, and this is how god chooses to experience himself as us, but in the end, s/he is just knowing and love.

Anyways, There is no need for religion (made up by us) and contstraints, the soul/love is without contraints and limits. We are all one. Simply know that we are all one, and act consitantly like we are all one, and you will speed up the process of reaching one-ness. Everyone is on this path, it takes some souls longer than others. Just enjoy the ride.

 

[IronMike]

AppopinWhat I expected was many Christian fundamentalists arguing that since the bible is directly authored by GOD, no other answers or interpretations of life's meaning or structure are valid. A second expectation was to come from those who only believe what present day science tells them, and because they are unable to use one of the five senses to examine something, it cannot exist.
Since I have read your posts before, I think I am correct in assuming that you are a fine Christian person. I too believe that Jesus was the Christ, the anointed of GOD. However, I don't find anything contrary to the teachings of Jesus and a belief in reincarnation. That may be because I place more emphasis on the "ideals" of his teaching and not so much on "ideas" which I believe have been used for selfish purposes and corrupted over the years. Indeed the history of the church when it went to Rome is filled with infighting, excommunications and even death to those who held opposing opinion. I have personally met (and read about many more) students in seminary who are shocked at how little substantiation there is for the "truths" of our present day Christian practices and belief system.
There must be hundreds of reasons why I personally came to believe in reincarnation. The idea that each person is responsible for the state that he or she finds himself or herself now. That a perfect system of justice is a part of GOD and that there is no cheating this system. Those of the "east" have thousands of "cases for" or "proofs of" reincarnation. The sheer number of people who have exhibited some clairvoyant ability and who have attested to that system of belief. The expression of love and compassion that came from sources such as Edgar Cayce or Paul Solomon. Our bible is filled with Karmic phrases such as "he who lives by the sword, must die by the sword" or "an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth". A couple of New Testament references come to mind: The disciples asked Jesus "was it this man or his parents that sinned that he was born blind?". The disciples ask why the scriptures say that Elijah must come before the Christ and Jesus said that Elijah had already come ?and they understood that he spoke of John the Baptist.
Regardless, I would like to say that I have many beliefs, and I like to think that my opinions are the result of my love for the truth. In fact there is only one thing I know is the truth, because I have direct incontestable personal evidence. Sadly I can't emphasize it with the authority and respect that it is due. "Every soul is overwhelmingly loved by the creator, GOD".

 

[invisible2me]

The egyptians believe the highest form of reincarnation is a cat.

All I have ever seen a cat do is lick it's ass, and I haven't developed a taste for butthole! Thank you very much! ;o[

 

[Phalkon]

Couldn't tell you, I'll tell you when I die, k?

 

[4824guy]

No. The reincarnation theory is WAY out there for me.

 

[MrPALCO]

NO

Contrary to what Darwin taught, creatures created by God are produced with a code that is not corrupted or changed.... by chance or by "evolution".

Certain species can be modified within certain parameters....however, Man will not "come back" as a fly, frog, cow or anything else.

The code that produced the man is locked into his Spirit, which will exist forever.

Man is not sovereign, but free to choose The Sovereign or to enter eternity in the chains prepared for the enemy.

 

[jmcoreymv]

MrPalco: How do you know this?

 

[UG]

Reincarnation is the hope of folks not getting it done the first time.

 

[MrPALCO]

<< MrPalco: How do you know this? >>



I read what God wrote.

 

[apoppin]

IronMike, I just read your post.

There is nothing in the Bible that even remotely supports the idea of reincarnation.

Luke 1:13-17 shows that John the Baptist was to go &quot;with Elijah's power and spirit.&quot; Not as a reincarnation of Elijah.

The principle of an &quot;eye for an eye&quot; was Biblical justice; &quot;living and dying by the sword&quot; a universal principle. Just as &quot;what you reap is what you sow&quot; is a statement of fact - not a Biblical affirmation of of reincarnation.

In reading John 9:1-3 we see Jesus saying &quot;Neither this man sinned nor his parents&quot; in that he was born blind. He was correcting his disciples misconceptions.

I understand you believe in reincarnation - but it is a personal testimony . . . search the Bible as you might, you cannot find any support for your belief in reincarnation.

 

[Eli]

To quote something I said in another thread,

I have seen all of my passed lives; they were shown to me in one of my many meditations. I am a very old soul. I have been coming to this planet for eons. I have been male and female, red man, dark man, and white man. I have even been races that I cannot even explain in words, other than beautiful. I have had many occupations, from simple farmer to soldier for the Roman Empire, to petty thief, just to name a couple. I have done many bad deeds; I am paying for them dearly in this lifetime, in more ways than one. I am okay with that, because If I pass this lifetime, and cleanse myself of all sins, passed and present, I believe it will be over, I will be done. I will have passed this school we call Earth, and my soul will be free to be
in it's natural form, not this physical illusion. It has taken me all this time to reach this point. I am going to try my best not to mess my chance up.


Yes.

Wow, It astounds me that so many do not believe in reincarnation! It is the basis of my whole belif system, and many others' as well.