Do you actually care about the world's finite oil reserves, or are you oblivious to the future?

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thebestMAX

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If it doesnt burn 92+ octane, i dont want to drive it anyway. :D:D

You are probably right, AMEESH. :D
 

KGB1

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Originally posted by: thebestMAX
Im with Feldenak in case you havent figured that out!

Can't think for yourself can you? Riding on someone else's coat tails. Ingenious I would say.

:p;)
 

KGB1

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Originally posted by: TommyVercetti
I am oblivious to the future.

You'd retract that statement as soon as a beretta is pointing at your skull...

Im sure of it ;):p
 

Yzzim

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Well it seems quite likely to me that once oil production does decrease and OPEC starts raising prices and other distributors of oil it won't be too far off before "certain countries" call foul and attack these other countries "in the interests of national security".

Didn't the Nixon Administration have plans to take over some of the mideast oil fields in the interest of national security?
 

Danman

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Originally posted by: Ameesh
george bush loves enron and oil so as long as he is here the problem will not be solved.

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LET'S ALL BLAME G W FOR ALL OF THE PROBLEMS! IT'S ALL HIS FAULT!

Ameesh, Ameesh...I expect better out of you.

Wait.

Not anymore, I stopped respecting you a long time ago.
 

thebestMAX

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I was thinking for myself LONGGGGGGG before you were. :D


Just stating my position as a few here didnt seem to understand what I was saying.
 

Dragnov

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Russia still has lots of oil reserves, that their refineries are just starting to pump out. In fact, Russia has now become the 2nd largest oil exporter... Hopefully, their industries and economy will finally get going eventually where they can produce at a much more effecient rate. Oil isn't going to run out anytime soon...

Now if you want to talk about the effects of oil, thats a different story. Don't shoot the messenger please.

So if you really care about the distant future, well theres tons of other stuff you can worry about...
 

StageLeft

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Originally posted by: thebestMAX
Right, why should I worry now?
Because eventually the doomsayers WILL be right. I can mention times when wolf was cried (oil crisis of 70's for instance), and I can name times when warnings were ignored (such as the under-appreciation of a terrorist thread pre 9/11).
You can place me in the "I don't really give a damn because I'll most likely be dead by the time the oil reserves are depleted." category.
It's possible that an oil crisis will hit in your lifetime, and even moreso it will hit in that of your eventual children.

 

StageLeft

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Originally posted by: Yzzim
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Well it seems quite likely to me that once oil production does decrease and OPEC starts raising prices and other distributors of oil it won't be too far off before "certain countries" call foul and attack these other countries "in the interests of national security".

Didn't the Nixon Administration have plans to take over some of the mideast oil fields in the interest of national security?
I'm not sure, but everybody knows that many have the mentality of "America is better than everything else, and what gets in the way of our goals should be removed." Hell, I've even heard people say that they don't care about oil because the US can just invade the middle east.

 

thebestMAX

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BTW, why are we giving Iraq 87 Billion to rebuild instead of buying their oil with it. Accomplishes the same purpose IF the money goes to the country instead of a few in power?

As for my eventual children, they are already here, older than you and doing well as will their children. Oil is not the end all be all and I am sure "Science" will save us just like in the SciFi movies.

Knew someone would blame this on Bush. :D.
 

KGB1

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Originally posted by: thebestMAX
I was thinking for myself LONGGGGGGG before you were. :D


Just stating my position as a few here didnt seem to understand what I was saying.

So it's age before comprehension level is it? I like your ideology :p;)


edit
Seems Mr. Best max, you follow the quotes in your sig very strictly, if not religiously I would say ;)
 

imported_Tomato

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It concerns me, but I'm not sure what I can do personally to affect anything on a grand scale... on a personal scale, I drive a fuel-efficient car and ride a bike/walk when I can.
 

Feldenak

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: thebestMAX
Right, why should I worry now?
Because eventually the doomsayers WILL be right. I can mention times when wolf was cried (oil crisis of 70's for instance), and I can name times when warnings were ignored (such as the under-appreciation of a terrorist thread pre 9/11).
You can place me in the "I don't really give a damn because I'll most likely be dead by the time the oil reserves are depleted." category.
It's possible that an oil crisis will hit in your lifetime, and even moreso it will hit in that of your eventual children.

I'm an exploiter, I don't care about future generations and my fiance and I don't want children.
 

KGB1

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I'm an exploiter, I don't care about future generations and my fiance and I don't want children

Thank goodness for that, I wouldn't want to imagine how your kids would likely have turned out. :p;)







/Ohh SNAP! :D
 

WinkOsmosis

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Originally posted by: thebestMAX
BTW, why are we giving Iraq 87 Billion to rebuild instead of buying their oil with it. Accomplishes the same purpose IF the money goes to the country instead of a few in power?

As for my eventual children, they are already here, older than you and doing well as will their children. Oil is not the end all be all and I am sure "Science" will save us just like in the SciFi movies.

How would buying their oil help the limited nature of oil reserves? It would only reduce prices and increase consumption... OPEC needs to raise prices again.
 

Feldenak

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Originally posted by: KGB
I'm an exploiter, I don't care about future generations and my fiance and I don't want children

Thank goodness for that, I wouldn't want to imagine how your kids would likely have turned out. :p;)

/Ohh SNAP! :D

Heh, at least I'm honest about not caring for future generations. :) Most people will pay lip service to "caring for the future" then proceed to live their lives w/o making any sort of effort to back up those flapping gums. :)
 

thebestMAX

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Not my point. We should gain something for our money if only to recapture what we spent on the war. They have a future now where they didnt under Hussein.

Sorry if this is thread hijacking, dont mean to.
 

ultimatebob

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I'm not really all that worried about the world's oil reserves. Sure, the price of oil and gas will increase as the supply decreases, but that will only make alternatives like electric, hybrid, and hydrogen powered engines more cost effective. When the alternative fuel cars become more popular, the prices on both the vehicles and the fuel running them will drop, and people will naturally switch to save money. By the time the supply runs out, there probably won't be ANY gas powered or conventinal oil lubricated vehicles left on the road, mostly because it will cost too damn much to operate them.

You gotta have a little more faith in capitalism, guys!
 

Yzzim

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Originally posted by: thebestMAX
BTW, why are we giving Iraq 87 Billion to rebuild instead of buying their oil with it. Accomplishes the same purpose IF the money goes to the country instead of a few in power?

As for my eventual children, they are already here, older than you and doing well as will their children. Oil is not the end all be all and I am sure "Science" will save us just like in the SciFi movies.

Knew someone would blame this on Bush. :D.

Does anyone know if the government is even funding a program to find alternative methods of fossil fuels? If so, what's the program and what are they exactly doing?

I believe the government gives a tax break if you buy a hybrid car, but that's a long way from doing anything really productive.
 

thebestMAX

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Heh, at least I'm honest about not caring for future generations. Most people will pay lip service to "caring for the future" then proceed to live their lives w/o making any sort of effort to back up those flapping gums.

So True.

Watch all the waste by your liberal friends living the good life and then respond. I know all the so called nature lovers I know waste a hell of a lot more resourses than I do.
 

Yzzim

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Originally posted by: thebestMAX
Not my point. We should gain something for our money if only to recapture what we spent on the war. They have a future now where they didnt under Hussein.

Sorry if this is thread hijacking, dont mean to.

IIRC the Iraqi people are *suppose* to pay back the US and Britian for Operation Iraqi Freedom once/if their country stabilizes.

edit: sp
 

Feldenak

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Originally posted by: Yzzim
Originally posted by: thebestMAX
BTW, why are we giving Iraq 87 Billion to rebuild instead of buying their oil with it. Accomplishes the same purpose IF the money goes to the country instead of a few in power?

As for my eventual children, they are already here, older than you and doing well as will their children. Oil is not the end all be all and I am sure "Science" will save us just like in the SciFi movies.

Knew someone would blame this on Bush. :D.

Does anyone know if the government is even funding a program to find alternative methods of fossil fuels? If so, what's the program and what are they exactly doing?

I believe the government gives a tax break if you buy a hybrid car, but that's a long way from doing anything really productive.

Why do people look to the government to solve all their problems? If it gets too expensive for consumers to use gas powered vehicles they will find alternate sources of transportation. Companies will follow the money trail...where the consumers go, companies follow.