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Do we need a Lame Duck Bush and Chenney?

bossanov

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We know that if Bush wins a second term, he will be a lame duck with no political accountability. However, have you considered the fact that for the first time in a long time, we also have a VP who will also be a lame duck? Chenney has stated that he has no political ambitions beyond his current office.

Typically with any lame duck president would be tempered in his actions by the knowledge of his VP's plans to seek the presidency. But in this scenario, there will be no such concern. The administration will be free to carry out the most extreme policies without any worry about being responsible for the consequences.

Think about the Supreme Court and other major policy decisions being left in the hands of Bush who once answered the question of "how do you think history will judge you" by saying "we are all going to die anyway". This is from Bob Woodard book.
 
This is definitely a huge problem. Bush has shown a supreme disregard for other people's views. If he gets re-elected he will just do anything he wants. And what he wants is to trigger the end time.
 
Originally posted by: bossanov
We know that if Bush wins a second term, he will be a lame duck with no political accountability. However, have you considered the fact that for the first time in a long time, we also have a VP who will also be a lame duck? Chenney has stated that he has no political ambitions beyond his current office.

Typically with any lame duck president would be tempered in his actions by the knowledge of his VP's plans to seek the presidency. But in this scenario, there will be no such concern. The administration will be free to carry out the most extreme policies without any worry about being responsible for the consequences.

Think about the Supreme Court and other major policy decisions being left in the hands of Bush who once answered the question of "how do you think history will judge you" by saying "we are all going to die anyway". This is from Bob Woodard book.

Much ado about nothing. Supreme Court justices need Senate approval. If Bush can't get a vote on the current candidates, how is he going to force in his SC picks? Not much he can do without Congress's help.
 
Originally posted by: sixone
Much ado about nothing. Supreme Court justices need Senate approval. If Bush can't get a vote on the current candidates, how is he going to force in his SC picks? Not much he can do without Congress's help.

What do you mean "can't get a vote on the current candidates"? No one can get appointed to the Supreme Court until someone retires; and, while that hasn't happened yet it will be comming soon, quite possablity 3 of them will in the next 4 years.
 
The thing is, they can't do that much with congressional elections every few years, they would destroy the current ratio by making the public so pissed off @ the Republicans.

For instance, according to Clinton, the AWB lost the Democrat's majority in congress.

The other Republicans would do their best to keep him in check.

Also, he really can't do much without congress' approval in the first place.
 
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
The thing is, they can't do that much with congressional elections every few years, they would destroy the current ratio by making the public so pissed off @ the Republicans.

For instance, according to Clinton, the AWB lost the Democrat's majority in congress.

The other Republicans would do their best to keep him in check.

Also, he really can't do much without congress' approval in the first place.

But when the Majority in Congress is Repub. it just makes it that much easier.
 
Originally posted by: bossanov
The fearmongering prize goes to Cheney for basically stating "vote for us and die"


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Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
The thing is, they can't do that much with congressional elections every few years, they would destroy the current ratio by making the public so pissed off @ the Republicans.

For instance, according to Clinton, the AWB lost the Democrat's majority in congress.

The other Republicans would do their best to keep him in check.

Also, he really can't do much without congress' approval in the first place.

Congress has been bush's lapdog for the last 4 years and continues to do so, even most of the democrats. If the dems can't make up their minds against him, how the hell are repubs supposed to?
 
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