Do we like Mike?

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Not that one. The other one. Can he whoop The Don in the Fall?

Are we United For Mike?



I don't particularly care for him, but it's all about tossing the Orange Menace.
 
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Moonbeam

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I look for moral character in a political leader. I see that the most in Sanders, Warren and Yang. Biden is OK. I think Bloomberg's biggest selling point is his wealth. He may have moral character, but moral character won't make you rich. But mostly these things are decided by Dean's Scream and what I think doesn't really matter. I live in a world of automatons and sound asleep machines not so different than me.
 
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Bloomberg was far better for NYC than the current failure of a mayor, as he tended to put competent people in charge and was very data driven. However, his support and defense of the extremely racist "stop and frisk" policy and his non-apology for it, plus his blindness towards the oligarchic power that the billionaire class holds make him mostly a nonstarter for me in the primary.
 
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The best thing about Bloomberg is he's stated that if he doesn't win the nomination (he's not), he's going to back whomever the nominee is with a $1,000,000,000 to defeat Trump. That's crazy money and I'm glad he's offering it regardless if he differs in opinion(s) with the nominee.
 

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The best thing about Bloomberg is he's stated that if he doesn't win the nomination (he's not), he's going to back whomever the nominee is with a $1,000,000,000 to defeat Trump. That's crazy money and I'm glad he's offering it regardless if he differs in opinion(s) with the nominee.
Well that sounds like it would take some character.
 
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The best thing about Bloomberg is he's stated that if he doesn't win the nomination (he's not), he's going to back whomever the nominee is with a $1,000,000,000 to defeat Trump. That's crazy money and I'm glad he's offering it regardless if he differs in opinion(s) with the nominee.

If Bloomberg and Steyer put all this cash into voter registration drives, outreach campaigns, Senate candidates, state house and gubernatorial races, and funding legal work to overturn voter suppression in competitive states it would be a better investment. Whoever the nominee is will likely have adequate resources at their disposal anyway. Hell a billion dollars would pay off all the fines for people in FL who were supposed to have their voting rights restored before the GOP implemented a poll tax.
 
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Homerboy

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If Bloomberg and Steyer put all this cash into voter registration drives, outreach campaigns, Senate candidates, state house and gubernatorial races, and funding legal work to overturn voter suppression in competitive states it would be a better investment. Whoever the nominee is will likely have adequate resources at their disposal anyway. Hell a billion dollars would pay off all the fines for people in FL who were supposed to have their voting rights restored before the GOP implemented a poll tax.

I don't disagree with this assessment at all. That being said, he hasn't said HOW he's going to spend the money. And, for that matter, if he just gives a blank check to Biden/Bernie/Warren/whomever, I'm fine with that too. I won't be comfortable or content until Trump is out by whatever avenue.
 

fleshconsumed

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Bloomberg was far better for NYC than the current failure of a mayor, as he tended to put competent people in charge and was very data driven. However, his support and defense of the extremely racist "stop and frisk" policy and his non-apology for it, plus his blindness towards the oligarchic power that the billionaire class holds make him mostly a nonstarter for me in the primary.
He seems to be changing tune, not sure how much trust one should put into it, but he is speaking about racial inequality now.
 

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I'll believe that when I see it.

Bloomberg is one of the very few people who when they say they'll spend something I'm inclined to believe. He said he'd spend $80M for the 2018 midterms and actually spent about $115M.
 

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Bloomberg wouldn't be my first pick, but if he managed to win the primary he'd have my backing. The ultimate goal for all good Americans is to vote Trump out in 2020. So long as his successor isn't somehow worse (all the Democrat candidates are exponentially better), they'll be an improvement.

On that note: while I don't want to take anything for granted, I think we have a habit of underestimating the likely turnout of Democrat voters in November. It's easy to worry about the vote when there's been a lot of bickering between Dem candidates, but when people realize that the Dem candidate is the only hope of restoring sanity, I don't think they'll particularly care who the primary winner is. The important bit is ensuring that enough people in battleground states realize that.
 

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I'll believe that when I see it.

He doesn't seem to actually be running right now, but he's already spending shit tons running ads against Trump. So I'd say that you are currently seeing it, if you're paying attention.
 

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If Bloomberg and Steyer put all this cash into voter registration drives, outreach campaigns, Senate candidates, state house and gubernatorial races, and funding legal work to overturn voter suppression in competitive states it would be a better investment. Whoever the nominee is will likely have adequate resources at their disposal anyway. Hell a billion dollars would pay off all the fines for people in FL who were supposed to have their voting rights restored before the GOP implemented a poll tax.

I've expressed the same hope in another thread around here. I'd like to see Bloomy focus a lot of his money on those state elections and governorships--I'd like to see hundreds of billboards pop up in Kentucky, for example, displaying the proudly anti-American policies and shameful record of Moscow Mitch, monetarily protected from anyone else's capacity to buy out that ad space.

beating Trump is a primary goal, but Mitch and Lindsay and the other traitorous bastards in the GOP need to fucking go.
 

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The best thing about Bloomberg is he's stated that if he doesn't win the nomination (he's not), he's going to back whomever the nominee is with a $1,000,000,000 to defeat Trump. That's crazy money and I'm glad he's offering it regardless if he differs in opinion(s) with the nominee.
WOW! I kinda want him to lose now. A billion dollars to back the nominee, now there's a recipe for a 50 state campaign.
 

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Bloomberg wouldn't be my first pick, but if he managed to win the primary he'd have my backing. The ultimate goal for all good Americans is to vote Trump out in 2020. So long as his successor isn't somehow worse (all the Democrat candidates are exponentially better), they'll be an improvement.

On that note: while I don't want to take anything for granted, I think we have a habit of underestimating the likely turnout of Democrat voters in November. It's easy to worry about the vote when there's been a lot of bickering between Dem candidates, but when people realize that the Dem candidate is the only hope of restoring sanity, I don't think they'll particularly care who the primary winner is. The important bit is ensuring that enough people in battleground states realize that.

democrat turnout matters only in a handful of states. And even in those, it truly matters in those rural areas. It all comes down to flipping 3 or so of those swing states that decided last election. Trump isn't going to magically flip California or other "always blue" states. And I can't imagine him flipping any states that were blue in 2016. Trump's only path to victory more or less, is winning the exact same states as last year. So if the dems can flip WI, FL, PA, MI, etc they'll win. THAT is where the dems (in the rural districts!) need to come up and hammer it home.

A million more dem voters in NYC, LA, etc coming out to vote doesn't change anything.
 
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I've expressed the same hope in another thread around here. I'd like to see Bloomy focus a lot of his money on those state elections and governorships--I'd like to see hundreds of billboards pop up in Kentucky, for example, displaying the proudly anti-American policies and shameful record of Moscow Mitch, monetarily protected from anyone else's capacity to buy out that ad space.

beating Trump is a primary goal, but Mitch and Lindsay and the other traitorous bastards in the GOP need to fucking go.

I have been hoping that dudes like Styer, Bloomberg, Bezos and the Tesla guy just get right to the point
“Mr President we need to to build the Amazon-Tesla-NYP-whatever else head quarters. We know you are the greatest builder in history and this campus needs to be enormous and undescribable plus beautiful!
You have a 6 Billion budget to complete it and we will pay you 250 million per year for up to 8 years. You cannot work on this project and be President at the same time.
We are going to call it the Trump Mega Center, do you like that name or would you like to call it something else. Design and branding is totally up to you Mr. President
 
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WOW! I kinda want him to lose now. A billion dollars to back the nominee, now there's a recipe for a 50 state campaign.

It's pretty insane that we live in a country where a single person could outlay that much money on an election. No one should be able to accumulate that much money. It's time for a wealth tax and higher taxes on the top end.
 
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Starbuck1975

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I like Bloomberg. He competently led NYC and the empire that made him rich, which means he has the executive experience that most Senators lack. That, and he’s already demonstrated tenacity and doesn’t have exploitable baggage. Would gladly swap Biden for Bloomberg.
 

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WOW! I kinda want him to lose now. A billion dollars to back the nominee, now there's a recipe for a 50 state campaign.

Didn't Hillary already prove that a billion dollar campaign didn't work? I wonder how many homeless people's lives could be improved by all the money Bloomberg is throwing away. The guy knows he's not gonna win the election, doesn't want to, and just wants to be a disrupting element working to stop Trump, that's it.