Do some people honestly prefer surfing the net with a phone/tablet, rather than a lap

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jacktesterson

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Higher End smartphones with 720p screens browse the internet very well.

I love having access to the net at all times with my Note.
 

Red Storm

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Higher End smartphones with 720p screens browse the internet very well.

I love having access to the net at all times with my Note.

For phones screen size is super important. I've browsed the web on a Note and found it to be quite fine, but doing the same on an iPhone or older (smaller) Android phone was noticeably not as pleasing. I now have a Nexus 4 and browsing the web is manageable. I still prefer a ~7-8 inch tablet though.
 

MrK6

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A lot of non-techy people have junk infested, craptastic laptops and desktops.
I agree, but I think that's an apples to oranges comparison to tablets or other mobile devices. First you're comparing very aged PC's with brand new mobile hardware. Second you have a reduced functional capacity of mobile devices that is secondarily protective to the problems you mentioned. However I'd argue that:
Poor boot times, sometimes excessive boot times.
If it's hardware-limited, get a better HDD or and SSD, if it's due to too much crap installed, delete it or go through msconfig
Every toolbar ever running in their browser.
Standard account + UAC stops that crap quickly
Sneaky piggybacking programs installed and wreaking havoc.
See above.
Four Months worth of updates waiting.
Automatically install at night and reboot
A premium AV scanner that's been out of license and not updated, maybe not actively doing anything aside from nagging about buying it.
MSE is free and probably better
It's not too difficult to imagine someone who is a habitual offender of the above having a watershed moment with a modern tablet or smartphone. They unlock it and it's on and ready to go without any fuss. Sadly, it likely is faster than their mistreated and neglected PC.
So was their PC when they first got it. I understand what you're saying, but I'm not sure running a misconfigured system system, or a system configured beyond the capabilities of the user, is a reason to extol a tablet/phone over a PC.
 

Vdubchaos

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Phones and Tablets are great for travel/nice to haves.

Wait, good toilet material.

Outside of that, it's all hype. People that don't travel much mostly regret such purchases (but hey, it's cool).
 

Super56K

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I agree, but I think that's an apples to oranges comparison to tablets or other mobile devices. First you're comparing very aged PC's with brand new mobile hardware. Second you have a reduced functional capacity of mobile devices that is secondarily protective to the problems you mentioned. However I'd argue that:
If it's hardware-limited, get a better HDD or and SSD, if it's due to too much crap installed, delete it or go through msconfig
Standard account + UAC stops that crap quickly
See above.
Automatically install at night and reboot
MSE is free and probably better
So was their PC when they first got it. I understand what you're saying, but I'm not sure running a misconfigured system system, or a system configured beyond the capabilities of the user, is a reason to extol a tablet/phone over a PC.

Just for fun: I'm definitely not talking about only old PC's. Most laptops I work on these days are Sandybridge based, and desktops have been good enough for a long time now. Give someone a few months worth of abuse on a new PC and it'll be gimped beyond belief by the time it's too bad for them to use. It's not surprising to me anymore to see a higher specced machine than my own be barely usable. When it is a few years out of date, all those issues are exacerbated (especially older laptops).

Telling a customer they need a faster hard drive doesn't compute for them. Convincing them to pay a premium for it, plus installation costs is an even harder sell.

Of course add-ons, toolbars, and junkware are removed when I'm working on it, but once they get it home the process typically starts all over again. It's not like I'm doing a training course with their entire family while walking through the issues that were resolved and how to avoid them.

Standard accounts are a nightmare in XP for even experienced users. Windows 7 works much better, but not that much because they don't pay attention to the messages and just click yes all the time. The times I've configured an admin privileged password to put in for a Windows 7 standard account I've had people wanting to bite my head off for screwing up their system because they claim they can't do anything anymore.

Yeah, setting updates to automatic is a standard practice of mine, but it doesn't help them until they get it worked on. Or, only helps until they or someone else changes it down the road for some inexplicable reason.

MSE is great and I always put it on PC's I work on explaining to them that it's free forever. Seems like a lot of people though still add a second AV at some point down the road either accidentally or in thinking they need a "premium" one, which means I get to uninstall one of them later when things go haywire.

My point is that people treat PC's like appliances and that doesn't work out very well for them. Both old and new hardware don't stand a chance against people like that. Tablets and phones work much better with the appliance minded person.

last edit - I'm not griping about it. If it weren't for these people I'd be out of a job. :D
 
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MrK6

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My point is that people treat PC's like appliances and that doesn't work out very well for them. Both old and new hardware don't stand a chance against people like that. Tablets and phones work much better with the appliance minded person.

last edit - I'm not griping about it. If it weren't for these people I'd be out of a job. :D
I agree with your points, but I still think it's an apples/oranges comparison. Restricted functionality/a closed environment leaving fewer ways or things to "screw up" is a trade-off, not an advantage IMO.
Phones and Tablets are great for travel/nice to haves.

Wait, good toilet material.

Outside of that, it's all hype. People that don't travel much mostly regret such purchases (but hey, it's cool).
If by "travel" you mean "leave the house," then I agree. I couldn't work nearly as effectively as I do without my phone.
 

Vdubchaos

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If by "travel" you mean "leave the house," then I agree. I couldn't work nearly as effectively as I do without my phone.

Assuming you even want to work while on your private time.....yes.

Personally, my job pays for my Galaxy S3 and I still haven't set up my work Email on it.

:biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:
 

Red Storm

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If by "travel" you mean "leave the house," then I agree. I couldn't work nearly as effectively as I do without my phone.

Nevermind leaving the house, they're super convenient and easier to use anywhere outside of an upright seated position. When I want to lay down in bed or stretch my legs on the couch while browsing the web I'm definitely not going to reach for the laptop.
 

exdeath

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For rendering simple web pages perhaps. Try to do anything more complex and watch your "superphone" choke.

Topic is web browsing, not playing Crysis 9 at 3840 x 2160 with 32x AA.

And 4GLTE is still going to be faster than home connections for 99% users. Even with a fast desktop or laptop with SSDs I can pull my phone out of pocket and be done faster than it takes to walk over to a computer and wait for the monitor to wake up. Instant in your pocket is still faster than instant on the other side of the room.
 
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MrX8503

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Although lte is faster than home broadband, my laptop loads pages faster than my iPhone 5.