Do really overweight people pay for their own medical needs and handicaps?

[eakers]

the problem with taking them off disability is that it opens up a gap where no person with an eating disorder should be on disability

 

[Fausto]

Originally posted by: vi_edit

Originally posted by: PingSpike

Originally posted by: Fausto
"It's my metabolism."

"Healthy food is too expensive."

"I don't have time to exercise."



Just wanted to get those out of the way.

Healthy food is too expensive though. I buy it anyway, but its annoying that a loaf of whole wheat bread costs the same as 3 bags of potato chips.

A FOUR POUND bag of field greens from sams club is $4.00. A bottle of light italian dressing is $1.90. Croutons are $1.00 a bag. That's easily 5 meals for under $1.50 a meal.

Fresh veggies are pretty cheap. Especially if you grow them yourself. Skinless Chicken breast are pretty cheap - about $7 for 4 pounds of them.

Apples and bananas are under a dollar a pound.

Tuna is about the same price pound per pound as ground beef.

Pound for pound, "healthy" stuff IS cheaper.

It just doesn't taste like fat.

You can also get protein cheap if you're willing to do some work. A whole chicken is easily three meals for the two of us plus chicken stock if you cook down the bones (which we do).

 

[FlyLice]

I don't think, for most of us, even if we REALLY tried could genetically become 675 lbs.

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: Fausto

Originally posted by: vi_edit

Originally posted by: PingSpike

Originally posted by: Fausto
"It's my metabolism."

"Healthy food is too expensive."

"I don't have time to exercise."



Just wanted to get those out of the way.

Healthy food is too expensive though. I buy it anyway, but its annoying that a loaf of whole wheat bread costs the same as 3 bags of potato chips.

A FOUR POUND bag of field greens from sams club is $4.00. A bottle of light italian dressing is $1.90. Croutons are $1.00 a bag. That's easily 5 meals for under $1.50 a meal.

Fresh veggies are pretty cheap. Especially if you grow them yourself. Skinless Chicken breast are pretty cheap - about $7 for 4 pounds of them.

Apples and bananas are under a dollar a pound.

Tuna is about the same price pound per pound as ground beef.

Pound for pound, "healthy" stuff IS cheaper.

It just doesn't taste like fat.

You can also get protein cheap if you're willing to do some work. A whole chicken is easily three meals for the two of us plus chicken stock if you cook down the bones (which we do).

Yep, 20 lb chicken bought this weekend for $11.

I don't think, for most of us, even if we REALLY tried could genetically become 675 lbs.

Quite possibly. It would require tons and tons of consistent work.

 

[Hammer]

she needs to get her stomach stapled. if my taxes are paying for it, i'd rather pay for that then to support her fat ass.

 

[PingSpike]

A can of chef boyardee is 99 cents. A bag of potato chips is 99cents. Hotpockets are $1.19 at the fvcking gas station.

All those things, in addition to requiring less work...are cheap as hell. Not only are the prices you guys quoting on the low side...hell maybe on the impossible side for around here, they still aren't lower.

Don't give me that. You know damn well you could exist on trash food for almost nothing. Healthy food requires more work and costs more.

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: PingSpike
A can of chef boyardee is 99 cents. A bag of potato chips is 99cents. Hotpockets are $1.19 at the fvcking gas station.

All those things, in addition to requiring less work...are cheap as hell. Not only are the prices you guys quoting on the low side...hell maybe on the impossible side for around here, they still aren't lower.

Don't give me that. You know damn well you could exist on trash food for almost nothing. Healthy food requires more work and costs more.

You forgot ramen noodles for $.18/packet 🙂

 

[MisfitsFiend]

I think that taxpayers should not be required to pay for problems that 1) people bring on themselves and 2) are reversible if they'd just put the effort into changing it.

Being obese like that should be considered a lifestyle choice and not a health problem. It's their fault, make them pay for their own whale food.

So what you are saying is that people with lung cancer and cirrhosis of the liver should also not be treated becasue they smoked/drank, and in effect brought this problem onto themselves?

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: PingSpike
A can of chef boyardee is 99 cents. A bag of potato chips is 99cents. Hotpockets are $1.19 at the fvcking gas station.

All those things, in addition to requiring less work...are cheap as hell. Not only are the prices you guys quoting on the low side...hell maybe on the impossible side for around here, they still aren't lower.

Don't give me that. You know damn well you could exist on trash food for almost nothing. Healthy food requires more work and costs more.

You forgot ramen noodles for $.18/packet 🙂

Thats the easy way out 😀...they're trying to tell me a salad is full blown meal here. And ramen beats that even.

69 cents for a mcdonalds cheeseburger, the whole frickin dollar menu...and thats eating out, which isn't even on the same playing field.

Good food is worth eating...but its definately not the cheap or easy way out.

 

[yoda291]

that's just laziness. after a certain point, so long as you don't EAT MORE, it should take so much energy just to move around that you consume large amounts of energy.

 

[FlyLice]

Originally posted by: PingSpike
A can of chef boyardee is 99 cents. A bag of potato chips is 99cents. Hotpockets are $1.19 at the fvcking gas station.

All those things, in addition to requiring less work...are cheap as hell. Not only are the prices you guys quoting on the low side...hell maybe on the impossible side for around here, they still aren't lower.

Don't give me that. You know damn well you could exist on trash food for almost nothing. Healthy food requires more work and costs more.

Let's say junk food costs $1 and "healthy food" costs five times more at $5. Fat people end up eating $5 worth of junk food at 5 servings instead of just 1 serving of "healthy food" at $5. It's the lack of self-control that causes people to be fat (morbidly obese fat, not the big boned fat).

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: FlyLice

Originally posted by: PingSpike
A can of chef boyardee is 99 cents. A bag of potato chips is 99cents. Hotpockets are $1.19 at the fvcking gas station.

All those things, in addition to requiring less work...are cheap as hell. Not only are the prices you guys quoting on the low side...hell maybe on the impossible side for around here, they still aren't lower.

Don't give me that. You know damn well you could exist on trash food for almost nothing. Healthy food requires more work and costs more.

Let's say junk food costs $1 and "healthy food" costs five times more at $5. Fat people end up eating $5 worth of junk food at 5 servings instead of just 1 serving of "healthy food" at $5. It's the lack of self-control that causes people to be fat (morbidly obese fat, not the big boned fat).

I agree. I never said it was a valid excuse for weighing 675 pounds, just that the statement "healthy food costs more than junk food" is true.

 

[OverVolt]

blankinches

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: OverVolt
blankinches

Wrong.

Blackinches.

 

[Pliablemoose]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
I think if I didn't care about health I could eat crap for less than good food, but I'll tell you, eating my own food at home, that's healthy, is a lot cheaper than going out to restaurants and eating the restaurant food. Eating properly is within the financial grasp of most of the population.

But Skoorb, she's so fat, she can hardly be expected to cook for herself.

For instance, she can eat the Enormous Omelet Sandwich two eggs, sausage, three strips of bacon and two slices of melted cheese on a bun -- is 730 calories and 47 grams of fat.

Mooo

 

[Toastedlightly]

I'll put it this way. I am a fat kid. 200lbs, 5' 6.5". It is bullshit that fat people can get welfare and not have to do things themselves. Yeas, I am fat, but I bring it upon myself by sitting here neffing instead of going oustside. Should people adapt to me? no. Should I try to improve myself? Only if I want. There

 

[Pneumothorax]

she needs to get her stomach stapled. if my taxes are paying for it, i'd rather pay for that then to support her fat ass.

Better Yet Staple Her mouth shut and make her eat/drink through a straw. Or if that doesn't work, Feed her only via her veins. She'll lose weight real quick

 

[GasX]

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
But Skoorb, she's so fat, she can hardly be expected to cook for herself.

For instance, she can eat the Enormous Omelet Sandwich two eggs, sausage, three strips of bacon and two slices of melted cheese on a bun -- is 730 calories and 47 grams of fat.

Mooo

Only one?

 

[Pantoot]

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose

Originally posted by: Skoorb
I think if I didn't care about health I could eat crap for less than good food, but I'll tell you, eating my own food at home, that's healthy, is a lot cheaper than going out to restaurants and eating the restaurant food. Eating properly is within the financial grasp of most of the population.

But Skoorb, she's so fat, she can hardly be expected to cook for herself.

For instance, she can eat the Enormous Omelet Sandwich two eggs, sausage, three strips of bacon and two slices of melted cheese on a bun -- is 730 calories and 47 grams of fat.

Mooo

She could always head over to denny's for their fabulous Fabulous French Toast Platter
Calories 1261
Fat (g) 79
Cholesterol (mg) 422
Sodium (mg) 2495

 

[TwinkleToes77]

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose

Originally posted by: Skoorb
I think if I didn't care about health I could eat crap for less than good food, but I'll tell you, eating my own food at home, that's healthy, is a lot cheaper than going out to restaurants and eating the restaurant food. Eating properly is within the financial grasp of most of the population.

But Skoorb, she's so fat, she can hardly be expected to cook for herself.

For instance, she can eat the Enormous Omelet Sandwich two eggs, sausage, three strips of bacon and two slices of melted cheese on a bun -- is 730 calories and 47 grams of fat.

Mooo

mmm that sounds good 🙂 add some fried hashbrowns to that and mm mmm mmmmmmm

 

[Demon-Xanth]

Step 1 of keeping weight in check:
DO NOT EAT UNTIL YOU ARE FULL!

An example of this in the extreme:
I have a cousin who went through an intestinal bypass surgery because he was upto 380LBs. They reduced his stomach to 2oz of capacity and bypassed his entire small intestine. He was losing 5LBs every 4 days. He had to drink a protien shake, and his stomach would eventually stretch to 8oz.