Do people really have such meaningless lives that they must grasp hold of the most inane and nonsensical 'conspiracies'

dug777

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I'm not to going to bother with the details, since like most rational people i've no problems accepting the vast & overwhelming body of evidence that points to the events going down in a dramatic absence of a hilarious 'conspiracy' by your own government, but why have so many people so enthusiastically jumped on the bandwagon here?

If their house burnt down, would they spend the rest of their days keenly telling everyone that it wasn't the cooker they left on, it was actually the American government who torched the place, for some bizarre and unfathomable reason only known to those shady, unpatriotic people in the defence department?

What is it that makes otherwise perfectly rational people seize on the most unlikely reason possible for an event, then spend their every waking hour looking for inane 'factoids' to back this overwhelmingly silly 'conspiracy' theory?

 

JulesMaximus

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Originally posted by: dug777
I'm not to going to bother with the details, since like most rational people i've no problems accepting the vast & overwhelming body of evidence that points to the events going down in a dramatic absence of a hilarious 'conspiracy' by your own government, but why have so many people so enthusiastically jumped on the bandwagon here?

If their house burnt down, would they spend the rest of their days keenly telling everyone that it wasn't the cooker they left on, it was actually the American government who torched the place, for some bizarre and unfathomable reason only known to those shady, unpatriotic people in the defence department?

What is it that makes otherwise perfectly rational people seize on the most unlikely reason possible for an event, then spend their every waking hour looking for inane 'factoids' to back this overwhelmingly silly 'conspiracy' theory?

They're idiots. Plain and simple.
 

Fern

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Do people really have such meaningless lives that they must grasp hold of the most inane and nonsensical 'conspiracies' to occupy themselves? A case in point being the Sept 11th events...

Answer: Yes
 

Queasy

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Originally posted by: dug777
What is it that makes otherwise perfectly rational people seize on the most unlikely reason possible for an event, then spend their every waking hour looking for inane 'factoids' to back this overwhelmingly silly 'conspiracy' theory?

I often wonder the same thing.

During our vacation to Florida earlier this year, my wife and I met a very intelligent couple that ran a pet store and had a mini-server farm in their house for webhosting services. These people seriously and legitimately believed that the governments of the world were using Weather Machines to cause hurricanes and tsunamis across the world. I didn't even have to bother picking up my jaw when it dropped because it bounced off the floor.

There was also the educated lady in my last neighborhood that honestly believed that we never landed a man on the moon.

I just don't get it....probably never will.
 

Adfaw

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I'm not sure why people have a tendancy to grasp the impossible over the probable. I have had my own problems with certain things like this. Sometimes the truth is just too simple and people look deeper. Sort of like the Funny Ads that we see at the SuperMarket. I watched one person read one of those in an airplane and I couldn't believe that people actually bought those. Picture of celebs who are fat for some reason, or scandals that are going on. Anything to misconstrue the truth, and even if it is partially true usually it's blown out of proportion. I think it's that we as people like to believe that there is something secret and "mysterious" behind every simple action.
 

Spineshank

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I get more of a kick out of the people that never stop complaining bout people like that. (not saying youre one of them)
 
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It's simple... there is something missing in their lives. They don't feel special. To make themselves feel special they take on causes that pits them against the world. The unhealthy folks in that group will go so far as to manufacture a cause like that (conspiracy theories). And the weaker minded folks of that sub-group will glom on to the fantasy created by the more creative person.

After that it simply becomes a self reinforcing delusion whereby the more pressure the "mainstream" people put on their fantasy the more closeminded or ignorant everyone else is.

It's sad really...
 

lokiju

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To many post on this subject.

It was just the 5 year anniversary of it so it's in the spot light again which puts the conspiracy theorist in the spot light as a result.

It'll pass, just gotta give it time.

 

yllus

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I think a lot of those people like to abstract out the reason bad things have happened to them, and it's great to be able to assign blame to some shadowy group and absolve themselves of responsibility.
 

pontifex

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well look at the pentagon crash. its been so long that i don't remember all the details but here is what i seem to remember. the government says it was a plane. no one saw a plane, no one saw skid marks from the plane, there were no plans parts in the wreckage, they won't release camera footage of what hit the pentagon.

things like that leave it open to debate. they don't release all the facts or what they do release doesn't match up with what actually happened. thats how these things get started.

 

olds

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They have to have drama. It's why soap operas and ATOT are so popular.

EDIT

OK, ignorance is also a factor:

Originally posted by: pontifex
well look at the pentagon crash. its been so long that i don't remember all the details but here is what i seem to remember. the government says it was a plane. no one saw a plane, no one saw skid marks from the plane, there were no plans parts in the wreckage, they won't release camera footage of what hit the pentagon.

things like that leave it open to debate. they don't release all the facts or what they do release doesn't match up with what actually happened. thats how these things get started.
 
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Originally posted by: pontifex
well look at the pentagon crash. its been so long that i don't remember all the details but here is what i seem to remember. the government says it was a plane. no one saw a plane, no one saw skid marks from the plane, there were no plans parts in the wreckage, they won't release camera footage of what hit the pentagon.

things like that leave it open to debate. they don't release all the facts or what they do release doesn't match up with what actually happened. thats how these things get started.

Oh God... Here we go...

There were plane parts at the site. There were witnesses who saw the plane. They did release the security footage.
 

pontifex

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Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: pontifex
well look at the pentagon crash. its been so long that i don't remember all the details but here is what i seem to remember. the government says it was a plane. no one saw a plane, no one saw skid marks from the plane, there were no plans parts in the wreckage, they won't release camera footage of what hit the pentagon.

things like that leave it open to debate. they don't release all the facts or what they do release doesn't match up with what actually happened. thats how these things get started.

Oh God... Here we go...

There were plane parts at the site. There were witnesses who saw the plane. They did release the security footage.

gee, i guess disclaimers don't work anymore? i said its been awhile since i heard anything about it. i haven't kept up with it. i'm just saying thats how stuff starts.

and you guys talk about conspiracy theorists being stupid?

so that was a bad example. i don't follow any of these things and my knowledge of some of them is old/hazy. basically what i'm trying to say is that it seems most of the time that there is some kind of evidence that may contradict the official explanation.

 

Miramonti

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Why would you take hook, line and sinker from everything you here from an 'official source'? Quickly labeling a theory as a 'conspiracy worth of a tin foil hat' is usually just another way of turning off one's brain, which may have never been turned on in the first place.
 

Vic

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Yes. IMO Asimov said it best: "Sometimes people mistake their own shortcomings for those of society, and then try to fix society because they don't know how to fix themselves."
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: jjsole
Why would you take hook, line and sinker from everything you here from an 'official source'? Quickly labeling a theory as a 'conspiracy worth of a tin foil hat' is usually just another way of turning off one's brain, which may have never been turned on in the first place.
What you speak of here is a double-edged sword FYI.
 

Miramonti

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: jjsole
Why would you take hook, line and sinker from everything you here from an 'official source'? Quickly labeling a theory as a 'conspiracy worth of a tin foil hat' is usually just another way of turning off one's brain, which may have never been turned on in the first place.
What you speak of here is a double-edged sword FYI.

Most conspiracy theories don't involve lies from sources that haven't been proven to lie before.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: jjsole
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: jjsole
Why would you take hook, line and sinker from everything you here from an 'official source'? Quickly labeling a theory as a 'conspiracy worth of a tin foil hat' is usually just another way of turning off one's brain, which may have never been turned on in the first place.
What you speak of here is a double-edged sword FYI.
Most conspiracy theories don't involve lies from sources that haven't been proven to lie before.
1. What the hell sources are you referring to?

2. Surely you jest. Most conspiracy theories are backed by ignorance, i.e. "We don't know what happened, so there MUST have been an evil conspiracy!"
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: pontifex
well look at the pentagon crash. its been so long that i don't remember all the details but here is what i seem to remember. the government says it was a plane. no one saw a plane, no one saw skid marks from the plane, there were no plans parts in the wreckage, they won't release camera footage of what hit the pentagon.

things like that leave it open to debate. they don't release all the facts or what they do release doesn't match up with what actually happened. thats how these things get started.

Oh God... Here we go...

There were plane parts at the site. There were witnesses who saw the plane. They did release the security footage.

Links with pics of plane wreckage like TWA800?

where?
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: pontifex
well look at the pentagon crash. its been so long that i don't remember all the details but here is what i seem to remember. the government says it was a plane. no one saw a plane, no one saw skid marks from the plane, there were no plans parts in the wreckage, they won't release camera footage of what hit the pentagon.

things like that leave it open to debate. they don't release all the facts or what they do release doesn't match up with what actually happened. thats how these things get started.

Oh God... Here we go...

There were plane parts at the site. There were witnesses who saw the plane. They did release the security footage.

Links with pics of plane wreckage like TWA800?

where?

Ask yourself a simple question, Dave... if Flight 77 didn't hit the Pentagon, then where did it go? And what happened to the passengers?
 

astrosfan90

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Originally posted by: jjsole
Why would you take hook, line and sinker from everything you here from an 'official source'? Quickly labeling a theory as a 'conspiracy worth of a tin foil hat' is usually just another way of turning off one's brain, which may have never been turned on in the first place.

No, but that also doesn't mean you take everything from a non-official source as gospel. Does the government cover things up? Sure. Does it usually get out eventually? Yes. The WTC cough is a good example. I forget the name of the fellow in the administration who was in charge of the EPA report on air quality in lower Manhattan after 9/11 and the health risks of the dust cloud, but it's since come out that he deliberately removed sections of said report that referenced pulverized asbestos as a potential health risk. If you dig into his background, he's a former asbestos lobbyist or industry insider.

No huge conspiracy, just isolated incidents of idiots and jerks. So while I'm sure the official story on many events is inaccurate, I'm also quite certain that massive fabrications are nearly impossible to maintain. If for no other reason than that people talk, and something of that size would require a massive collaborative effort on the part of government employees, and eventually someone somewhere would fess up or leak the information to the public.

It's all about applying one's brain to everything you read. Too many people fail to do so.
 

swtethan

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: pontifex
well look at the pentagon crash. its been so long that i don't remember all the details but here is what i seem to remember. the government says it was a plane. no one saw a plane, no one saw skid marks from the plane, there were no plans parts in the wreckage, they won't release camera footage of what hit the pentagon.

things like that leave it open to debate. they don't release all the facts or what they do release doesn't match up with what actually happened. thats how these things get started.

Oh God... Here we go...

There were plane parts at the site. There were witnesses who saw the plane. They did release the security footage.

Links with pics of plane wreckage like TWA800?

where?

Ask yourself a simple question, Dave... if Flight 77 didn't hit the Pentagon, then where did it go? And what happened to the passengers?
everyone knows they were replaced by a missle:roll:


i dislike conspiracy theories
 

jaysgirl

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i enjoy reading conspiracy theories once in a while

it's just entertaining, but rarely do i ever put any stock into what i'm reading.
kinda like why people buy national enquirer. ;) i certainly hope people that buy that don't believe what they're reading.