Do more laws make a better society?

[SociallyChallenged]

Lol, this is absolutely P&N. Obviously, the liberals are going to come in and say less laws make a better society, while conservatives will say that more will. Pointless thread, leave P&N in P&N.

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: Amplifier

Originally posted by: Aflac

Originally posted by: Amplifier
i agree with the op

Originally posted by: Amplifier
i have a differing point of view from the op

I'm really itching to start a motion to ban this idiot.

Go ahead everyone listens to '06s!

what does join date have to do with anything? if you deserve a ban, you deserve a ban, simple as that.

 

[BlancoNino]

Originally posted by: zerocool1

see prohibition

Prohibition is a prime example that no law can overturn the unwritten law of supply and demand.

 

[BlancoNino]

Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged
Lol, this is absolutely P&N. Obviously, the liberals are going to come in and say less laws make a better society, while conservatives will say that more will. Pointless thread, leave P&N in P&N.

? That's not true. Liberals have cried for more DUI laws, more business regulation laws, higher minimum wage laws, hate-crime laws that give more punishment to somebody simply because he did out of prejudice....

 

[Legendary]

Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged
Lol, this is absolutely P&N. Obviously, the liberals are going to come in and say less laws make a better society, while conservatives will say that more will. Pointless thread, leave P&N in P&N.

You know nothing of politics.

Less laws can only happen when we HAVE a better society. It's a Catch-22 of the worst kind.

 

[dabuddha]

Originally posted by: Amplifier

Originally posted by: Aflac

Originally posted by: Amplifier
i agree with the op

Originally posted by: Amplifier
i have a differing point of view from the op

I'm really itching to start a motion to ban this idiot.

Go ahead everyone listens to '06s!

In that case, I 2nd that motion.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: BlancoNino

Originally posted by: waggy
we have to many laws. there is no reason we should have morel laws or such. There should nto be a law saying i can not buy a beer on a sunday morning.

these are the types of laws I'm talking about. Who are we hurting by selling beer on sundays? How can there be laws that say which days of the week we can sell certain items?

Does this have anything to do with you whining about the legal limit for Drunk Driving being .12 over at P&N?

 

[BlancoNino]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: BlancoNino

Originally posted by: waggy
we have to many laws. there is no reason we should have morel laws or such. There should nto be a law saying i can not buy a beer on a sunday morning.

these are the types of laws I'm talking about. Who are we hurting by selling beer on sundays? How can there be laws that say which days of the week we can sell certain items?

Does this have anything to do with you whining about the legal limit for Drunk Driving being .12 over at P&N?

Inspiration.

 

[Praxis1452]

Laws are created by society so society is the problem. Laws are only efficienty when everybody agrees and if everyone agrees they are obsolete.

 

[SociallyChallenged]

Originally posted by: Legendary

Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged
Lol, this is absolutely P&N. Obviously, the liberals are going to come in and say less laws make a better society, while conservatives will say that more will. Pointless thread, leave P&N in P&N.

You know nothing of politics.

Less laws can only happen when we HAVE a better society. It's a Catch-22 of the worst kind.

Well, that's obviously not going to happen. Making laws is a balance, you can't be too strict, you can't be too lenient. And obviously there are exceptions, but this is P&N for God's sake, keep it the hell out of my ATOT enjoyment.

 

[dullard]

For each person, there is probably an optimum number of laws. Clearly a lawless society is not the optimal situation. We need civil liberties and basic laws like you mention. Clearly a near infinite number of laws is not the optimal solution. No one could possibly keep them straight and they'll all contradict each other. Thus, somewhere in between there is an optimum.

My optimum number may vary from yours, but that isn't relevant to this thread.

To answer your question, we need to know on which side of that optimum we are currently at. To say that "more laws make a better society" is clearly false if we are already above the optimum number. To say that "more laws make a better society" is true if we are below the optimum number.

The thread question cannot be answered unequivocably (sorry I can't spell)

I personally feel we have many unnecessary laws and that they should be removed from the books. However, there are a few critical laws that should be passed to make society better. So I have to answer both yes and no to your question.

But overall, I'm in favor of fewer and more general laws and then let the courts interpret the details. For example, I perfer one reckless driving law rather than 9,999,999,999 laws stating each possible way to drive recklessly.

 

[fitzov]

If you put a couple neurons together, you can figure that the number of laws does not correlate to a better or worse society.

 

[Praxis1452]

Originally posted by: dullard
For each person, there is probably an optimum number of laws. Clearly a lawless society is not the optimal situation. We need civil liberties and basic laws like you mention. Clearly a near infinite number of laws is not the optimal solution. No one could possibly keep them straight and they'll all contradict each other. Thus, somewhere in between there is an optimum.

This whole idea is retarded. If you had 1 billion laws about how many times you could ****** ina day I wouldn't care. It's all about what the laws act upon.

When it's not 95 or something and I feel more like it I'll post my theory in P&N...

 

[dullard]

Originally posted by: Praxis1452
This whole idea is retarded. If you had 1 billion laws about how many times you could ****** ina day I wouldn't care. It's all about what the laws act upon.

When it's not 95 or something and I feel more like it I'll post my theory in P&N...

Send me a PM when you do, I'd enjoy reading it.

There is a cost to each law. You might not care if there are 1 billion laws on the toilet use, but when you get a $1M a year tax bill to enforce all those laws, you will care. And the cost isn't just financial, there are many other personal drawbacks to excessive and unnessary laws.

 

[phantom309]

I don't want more laws. I want better people.

For example, personally I hate people talking on the phone while they're driving. It's obnoxious, dangerous and it shows a total disregard for the very important task that is driving. Do I want a law against it? No. There are sometimes very good reasons for for using the phone while driving - like reporting an accident or fire. What I want is for people to develop the damn common sense not to endanger everyone around them just to talk about stupid sh!t that can wait until they get home.

The great thing about common sense is that unlike laws, common sense developed in one area tends to extend to other areas of life as well. If everyone just learned to do a little more of their own thinking, then we woudn't be quite so overrun with sheep demanding that the legal system make so many of life's choices for us.

 

[sandorski]

You'll love Sandorskianna then! There's only 1 Law: Don't piss off Sandorski !