Do Liberals really wish Conservatives would die?

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OrByte

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Well, yes, different media. The right dominates AM radio, the left dominates other avenues.

fair enough, although now you walk into the argument of mainstream media being left leaning.

I don't know if I agree with that entirely but it is what it is :)
 

Matt1970

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qft.

If moore had a radio show...then we might be talking apples to apples

So level of commercial success should dictate the level of hatred towards someone just as much or maybe even more that what they stand for?
 

OrByte

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So level of commercial success should dictate the level of hatred towards someone just as much or maybe even more that what they stand for?

mischaracterization of my point

Rush is on the radio hours everyday

I don't even know if Michael Moore is still alive at this point

shrug.
 

DominionSeraph

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"Fahrenheit 9/11 is a 2004 documentary film by American filmmaker and liberal political commentator Michael Moore. The film takes a critical look at the presidency of George W. Bush, the War on Terror, and its coverage in the news media. The film is the highest grossing documentary of all time."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fahrenheit_9/11

Liberals are allowed to indulge.
"My Little Pony" is completely one-sided. No mention at all that Equestria isn't real. That doesn't mean we can't watch it and balance it for ourselves after the fact. Watching the documentary of the adventures of six talking ponies doesn't mean you come out the other side believing in it.

Spin is only really propaganda if there is an audience stupid enough to not be able to back out of it. Thus propaganda is really limited to conservatism.
 
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lotus503

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Time to get back to productive things,

If Rush does tonight I will toast in delight.
 
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There are some liberals that want Conservatives to die, judging by some of the posts on this forum, there are some here
 

Pens1566

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There are some liberals that want Conservatives to die, judging by some of the posts on this forum, there are some here

You really shouldn't be throwing stones in this one. One could argue you're in favor of killing off everyone that believes in a certain religion.
 

monovillage

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I'm sorry that is 2 posts in a row now from you and I have to ask for clarification:

are we talking about radio or about hyper-partisan personalities in general?

I agree that both sides have it's hyper-partisans.

I don't agree that the left's hyper partisans are as impactful as the right. As anecdotal evidence... I have never seen a michael moore film...shrug.

I don't agree that the right's radio personalities are equivalent to the left

I believe the left has no where near the amount of impact on the radio waves as does the right.

I think you're forgetting about Air America. At least the conservatives didn't put an extremist like Al Franken into the Senate. Helped by voter fraud of course.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_America_(radio_network)
 

Steeplerot

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"Fahrenheit 9/11 is a 2004 documentary film by American filmmaker and liberal political commentator Michael Moore. The film takes a critical look at the presidency of George W. Bush, the War on Terror, and its coverage in the news media. The film is the highest grossing documentary of all time."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fahrenheit_9/11

It's a documentary, would you care to point out any falsehoods? Just because it does not conform to your fantastical world does not make it left wing propaganda.

Nor does Moore use divisive tactics, he always leaves his movies with a message of solidarity with all Americans. It is you all who want to paint anyone speaking truth to power as liars, you see what you surround yourself with. And in the right wing universe lies are reality if it fits the ongoing narrative.

It has to, because the minute anyone starts speaking truth on the right he is bludgeoned into silence for being "off message" of the Limbaugh/Bircher narrative.

It is a American tradition for the little guy to speak up against the powers that be. A shame you have sided with the status quo. But then in the long run, you will lose. The right always does. So carry on totally screwing yourselves. You only make your enemies jobs easier when you are so out of touch with reality. The lies all the more blatant and hollow outside of the bubble.

Once the right are so full of yourselves you will trip up, and find out the people are not with them, never were. It was all bullshit spun by industry and you bought it, hook line and sinker agaisnt your own interests as a worker.

The right should not die, you all should hide your faces in shame for being so easily led by flashy BS as Americans.

The thing about being in a cult is that you can leave the endless crisis mode behind, and realize, the world is still there.
 
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Charles Kozierok

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It's a documentary, would you care to point out any falsehoods?

Not really, I haven't studied the film in detail, but the controversy around it has been thoroughly documented.

Nor does Moore use divisive tactics, he always leaves his movies with a message of solidarity with all Americans.

You really want me to start digging up some of Moore's inflammatory remarks? It's not for nothing that Andrew Sullivan's annual award for "divisive, bitter and intemperate left-wing rhetoric" is named after him.

It is you all who want to paint anyone speaking truth to power as liars, you see what you surround yourself with.

Somewhat telling that you so immediately lump me in with your "enemies", simply for not being willing to accept your rather one-sided view. You obviously haven't read very many of my posts, but yet immediately jump to (incorrect) conclusions.
 

Steeplerot

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You really want me to start digging up some of Moore's inflammatory remarks?

Sure, but you will not like the actual reality of whats being said, instead of spun.

Moore is not even controversial, he is a middle of the road bourgeoisie Democrat populist.

Far too easy. The fact that Moore is supposedly this big radical to you all is hilarious, it just shows how lost the right is in its own bullshit.

When I was a kid, stuff Moore says is the same stuff a Republican would say.

Either Moore is a stealth Republican from the past or the whole concept of Conservative ideology has been hijacked by extremist Birchers like Limbaugh.
 
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Matt1970

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Moore is not even controversial, he is a middle of the road bourgeoisie Democrat populist.

Far too easy. The fact that Moore is supposedly this big radical to you all is hilarious, it just shows how lost the right is in its own bullshit.

When I was a kid, stuff Moore says is the same stuff a Republican would say.

Either Moore is a stealth Republican from the past or the whole concept of Conservative ideology has been hijacked by extremist Birchers like Limbaugh,

And just when we think you have given it your all you take stupidity to a whole new level.
 

Charles Kozierok

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He's on record suggesting that 9/11 may have been an inside job. That's good enough for me to not consider him "middle of the road".
 

Steeplerot

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And just when we think you have given it your all you take stupidity to a whole new level.

Do you ever you know...contribute to a discussion? All you have is a childish game of personal attacks and and really bad case of willful cognitive dissonance.

Step off the playground sometime, when you grow up enough politically.
 

Steeplerot

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He's on record suggesting that 9/11 may have been an inside job. That's good enough for me to not consider him "middle of the road".

Lets see the quote. If I remember this was a out of text quote from speaking of the freshly upset kid with the dead dad who went on the OReilly show and got told he was a traitor.

It's the old Goebbels trick, tell the biggest lie you can over and over on the radio/Fox if it conforms to the narrative. Shit will stick, right wingers want to hear news they want to hear, not reality.

Real life is bad for ratings. Right wingers want preachers sending a message of their "faith" not things that you must really you know..think about.

If people thought for a minute they would realize..holy balls, these folks we trusted and said were "us" are total con artists on the take feeding us whatever for a buck.

But then for some people learning is part of life, others must retreat into a narcissistic world to protect their egos.

It's a self defense mechanism, but its intellectual and personal cowardice in reality, righties do not want to face that.
 
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DominionSeraph

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Sure, but you will not like the actual reality of whats being said, instead of spun.

Moore is not even controversial, he is a middle of the road bourgeoisie Democrat populist.

Far too easy. The fact that Moore is supposedly this big radical to you all is hilarious, it just shows how lost the right is in its own bullshit.

No, Moore does need to be taken in context. It is the definition of "liberal thought" to do this so perhaps you've done this without a second thought, but let us get that straight: Moore himself does not put forth a fully balanced picture. If you were to put on blinders equal to a conservatard's ignorance and take what Moore says as Holy Writ like conservatards do with their propagandists, you'd have a pretty skewed view of reality.
 
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Matt1970

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Do you ever you know...contribute to a discussion? All you have is a childish game of personal attacks and and really bad case of willful cognitive dissonance.

Step off the playground sometime, when you grow up enough politically.

You never do any personal attacks, you are to busy constantly insulting Conservatism as a whole.
 

Matt1970

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He's on record suggesting that 9/11 may have been an inside job. That's good enough for me to not consider him "middle of the road".

And that puts everything into perspective. If you believe 9/11 was an inside job, your credibility goes bye-bye.
 

Moonbeam

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We already thoroughly destroyed your article last time. 1500 college students surveyed is not an accurate representation of the US as 75% of the country doesn’t even finish college. Want to try again there Einstein?

Silly goose, that was only one of many such studies. But you prove again that nothing real can touch you. Willful brain dead is willful brain dead. By the way, were is your scientific evidence that brain scans of 1500 college students couldn't be representative of those that would appear if we did them for everybody in the nation. You do not know how to think but imagine that because 1500 college students isn't 1500 randomly collected self reported conservatives and liberals, that must skew the results. Please don't pretend you can think scientifically when science itself shows that you can't.

What you do is use your intelligence to rationalize not to think critically and every time you do so you will always be transparent to me. I see through everyone of your delusions because I have a brain, not much of one perhaps, but still one that can think by reasoning. You can't do that. All you can do is spin new web fibers to patch that last hole that got punched in your cocoon.
 

Steeplerot

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You never do any personal attacks, you are to busy constantly insulting Conservatism as a whole.

If you ever defending a viewpoint that was conservative I would be behind you guys 100% -even as a left winger we need both sides to have a functional society and may disagree. But you guys are stuck on bircher cult stupidity from the radio.

It's like arguing with someone about Star Wars and how real life is. Why should anyone do anything but laugh? It's bogus and you all do a terrible job of even defending it. This goes to show how poor of a foundation you stand on by not even being able to defend your bubble.

You all dont even realize that the world is looking inside at the bubble laughing at you all, but at the same time concerned for our fellow Americans inside, but you all just double down in the fantasy in a victim complex. This is sociopathic, a huge warning sign of cult mindsets in a supposedly free society.
 
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