Do I hear 4? How about 5? FIVE front war!

[JEDI]

afganistan
iraq
Libya
Iran (Near future)
North Korea (may not happen if Il Jong Kim gets replaced by son)

Only Afganistan is legit.

A fool fights a 2 front war.
A king of fools doesnt learn from his predessor for starting a war w/weak reasons but tops him by starting a 3rd war w/o ending one of the previous ones.

And he'll be the record holder for all-time fool for Iran.
and unbreakable record holder if he starts another w/North Korea.

Discuss!

 

[ch33zw1z]

The mistake is believing there is going to be an end to the wars that were started. I'd go as far as to say some of these will last my lifetime..

 

[Schadenfroh]

Afghanistan will remain in hell and will get worse once we pull out.

Dare I say, Iraq has a chance, if very remote, of pulling itself out of this mess.

Doubt we attack Iran, Israel might if they run out of Stuxnet solutions and they get close to a bomb.

Hoping that South Korea will take care of North Korea if it collapses into a civil war, although we have so many troops there, will will get pulled into it as well.

Libya is only going to get worse, unless his own people kills The Colonel and his mercs.

 

[Pray To Jesus]

Why should we care about N. Korea in this day and age? Let S. Korea take care of it on their own.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Why should we care about N. Korea in this day and age? Let S. Korea take care of it on their own.

What a good Samaritan you are! Get your head out of the sand.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Why should we care about N. Korea in this day and age? Let S. Korea take care of it on their own.

S Korea has the ability to cave in; not defeat without US / UN support

 

[Zebo]

Not even Afghanistan was legit. You track down terrorists with wet work hit teams and bribes not by invading, building and trying to change culture.

And it certainly was not fought legit letting AQ get away from the most powerful military in the world giving them and Osama legendary, almost mythical, status and recruits.

 

[irwincur]

Afghanistan - hopeless mess. We need to listen to Karzai less and kick more ass.

Iraq - I actually think they will be fine. They have a long stable civil history that should be OK. Worst case, they break up into more realistic ethnic regions.

Libya - waste of time and a side show. Bad idea, no plan, and no exit. If the rebels do win, then what? Do they have any chance of even putting a real government together.

Iran - doubt it, we have them surrounded. If anything they will eventually collapse under their own people. Eventually their protests will gain major traction and the end will be swift. Plus, Obama took weeks trying to figure out Libya - do you really think he even remotely has the balls for a war with Iran?

North Korea - if shit hits the fan there (civil war) I expect China will take care of it. They have been looking for a reason to play big boy games, this would be it. Would probably be the quickest solution. Not saying that the end result would be perfect, probably better than what they have.

 

[wuliheron]

Don't be shy now, go for the whole enchilada! WORLD WAR! U.S. verses THEM! Come on, I know you want to. Go ahead, nobody will mind.

 

[Printer Bandit]

there are already plans:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUhlFO5qjVE

 

[PieIsAwesome]

Don't be shy now, go for the whole enchilada! WORLD WAR! U.S. verses THEM! Come on, I know you want to. Go ahead, nobody will mind.

U.S would still win.

As long as we don't go occupying countries, we can always fly in, blow everything up, and leave, as we are doing in Libya. We are not stuck in Libya, we have left Iraq except for a small force, and Afghanistan will probably remain a passive, low intensity occupation that will last for ages.

So no, we are not stuck in a multi-front war. This isn't comparable to, say, Germany fighting for survival in World War I on multiple fronts.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

U.S would still win.

As long as we don't go occupying countries, we can always fly in, blow everything up, and leave, as we are doing in Libya. We are not stuck in Libya, we have left Iraq except for a small force, and Afghanistan will probably remain a passive, low intensity occupation that will last for ages.

So no, we are not stuck in a multi-front war. This isn't comparable to, say, Germany fighting for survival in World War I on multiple fronts.

we don't have money right now. WW2 was different. not only that, we have an oil crisis to worry about if shit hits the fan.

i expect the US to melt down internally if shit hits the fan. there's no way we can wage a WW1 or WW2 right now. but then again with globalization I doubt many nations can.

 

[wuliheron]

It's the ancient Roman system of conquering your neighbors, skimming off 99% of the wealth from the top 1%, reinvesting some it in building up the infrastructure to raise the average person's standard of living, and then collecting the rent in perpetuity. But if we're going to kick start our economy again that means we have to step up our game and work faster.

More countries at a time and wealthier ones then Afghanistan. If that's not enough, then world war it is.

 

[sportage]

This is all leading up to WW III, and it most likely will be over oil, not US interest in freeing the middle eastern slaves.
Regardless... We're doin a great job at getting every middle eastern country to hate us big time. Yeah... maybe Egypt temporarily has some what more of a democracy, but if there is nothing else we've have learned from thousands of years of middle eastern history, it is that there will always be wars. Nothing last forever in that region of the world. Come-on… none of us are that dumb to believe otherwise? I mean really…

So it comes that at some point, some day, the US will no doubt be hit from outside or more so within, with nuclear weapon(s). You can take that to the bank. It will happen!

As technology advances, third world middle eastern countries will eventually all have the ability to make nuclear weapons. Small sized nuclear weapons. And they easily will sneak them into this country.

One weird thing about middle eastern countries, they never forget. They hold a grudge...FOREVER! Some bombing takes place out of nowhere, and people ask why, and the answer is retribution from some issue that happened 50 years ago.

So the anger we create over there now, will come back to haunt us. Be it 5 years or 500 years, someone will remember and seek retribution.
The question is, how long until every middle eastern cave dwelling terrorist and their brother has the ability to create nuclear weapons?

It is not a question of will America experience an nuclear attack, the question is when?

 

[Zebo]

Don't be shy now, go for the whole enchilada! WORLD WAR! U.S. verses THEM! Come on, I know you want to. Go ahead, nobody will mind.

If often have a reoccurring dream about our elite who have virtually indefinite facilities underground, you know like fallout the game, setting off a world war nukes and all to rid themselves of us and emerge a few years later to a new garden of eden. Sometimes I get in the bunker sometimes not...

And P&N worries about debt, citizenship and shit...

 

[Zebo]

This is all leading up to WW III, and it most likely will be over oil, not US interest in freeing the middle eastern slaves.
Regardless... We're doin a great job at getting every middle eastern country to hate us big time. Yeah... maybe Egypt temporarily has some what more of a democracy, but if there is nothing else we've have learned from thousands of years of middle eastern history, it is that there will always be wars. Nothing last forever in that region of the world. Come-on… none of us are that dumb to believe otherwise? I mean really…

So it comes that at some point, some day, the US will no doubt be hit from outside or more so within, with nuclear weapon(s). You can take that to the bank. It will happen!

As technology advances, third world middle eastern countries will eventually all have the ability to make nuclear weapons. Small sized nuclear weapons. And they easily will sneak them into this country.

One weird thing about middle eastern countries, they never forget. They hold a grudge...FOREVER! Some bombing takes place out of nowhere, and people ask why, and the answer is retribution from some issue that happened 50 years ago.

So the anger we create over there now, will come back to haunt us. Be it 5 years or 500 years, someone will remember and seek retribution.
The question is, how long until every middle eastern cave dwelling terrorist and their brother has the ability to create nuclear weapons?

It is not a question of will America experience an nuclear attack, the question is when?

There is no doubt in my mind there will be resource wars. Our whole economy is derivative of oil. The farming, the mining, your house and everything in it is oil. Basically you can say oil = wealth. w/o oil we live like 1870s again. And as oil gets too much or too short we will just take it.

My bet is we will give them the nuke when time is right to go take it.

 

[Doppel]

The mistake is believing there is going to be an end to the wars that were started. I'd go as far as to say some of these will last my lifetime..

And this is also why calling them "wars" is dubious. There is no sovereign government to beat. They are more like extended peace keeping campaigns or guerrilla training session or who knows what. But conventional definitions are not applicable.

No sign of a war with Iran in the near future at all.

 

[werepossum]

Three, yes. No war imminent with Iran or North Korea.

 

[thraashman]

It's kinda hard to call the current Libyan intervention a war. Yes we are bombing, but last I heard Obama said he will not send in a single ground troop. If that changes and Obama sends in troops, then he will massively hurt his chances for re-election. Might even kill them altogether. Then again, Bush started and poorly managed 2 wars and somehow got re-elected.

I also don't believe at all that Obama would even consider trying to go into Iran or North Korea. One's a nuclear power lead by a nutball, the other has a strong enough militray to inflict pretty substantial losses on us. Also the current intervention is a joint effort and is supported by the Arab league. If our role in this is handed off soon like promised, then there's no harm no foul here.

 

[her209]

OP is forgetting war with Somalia, Yemen, and Pakistan.

 

[Broheim]

Libya

is not a war, and America is taking the backseat on this one...

 

[werepossum]

OP is forgetting war with Somalia, Yemen, and Pakistan.

Not to mention Omicron Persei 8. Quick, before they enslave us and begin harvesting our human horns!

 

[BrunoPuntzJones]

Well we are on the books as at war with North Korea if you want to go ahead and call it 4...

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

is not a war, and America is taking the backseat on this one...

It's a civil war that poses no threat to the US. We have no business being there and am frankly surprised that so many on the Left think this action is acceptable.

 

[werepossum]

Well we are on the books as at war with North Korea if you want to go ahead and call it 4...

Point, though by that standard we were at war with Iraq for a couple decades.