Do hetero ever go gay?

[bleeb]

Whoa. :camera:

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: compuwiz1 Do hetero ever go gay?.

Yes . . . every day . . . hundreds [at least] . . . look at convicts confined to prisons.

 

[myusername]

Coworker is a lesbian. Has a 17yo daughter. Amusing thing about it is that her ex-husband is gay too.

 

[poopaskoopa]

My friend's parents divorced, the hubby went gay, showed up for his daughter's wedding with his b/f. This wasn't his coming out party, however, as everyone in the family had met the BF a while back. The weird part was that he and his b/f dressed the same, with the same haircut and the mustache that looked about the same.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: poopaskoopa
My friend's parents divorced, the hubby went gay, showed up for his daughter's wedding with his b/f. This wasn't his coming out party, however, as everyone in the family had met the BF a while back. The weird part was that he and his b/f dressed the same, with the same haircut and the mustache that looked about the same.

Maybe he was in love with himself!

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: poopaskoopa
My friend's parents divorced, the hubby went gay, showed up for his daughter's wedding with his b/f. This wasn't his coming out party, however, as everyone in the family had met the BF a while back. The weird part was that he and his b/f dressed the same, with the same haircut and the mustache that looked about the same.

Maybe he was in love with himself!

Me-Harmony

 

[cjgallen]

Everyone is a little gay, some more than others.

 

[cavemanmoron]

Originally posted by: compuwiz1

what kind of stupid question is that?

NM, of course that is a touchy subject in Ca. I wanna hear from some people from other areas. In Ca, almost everything goes these days.

Maybe this state should fall into the ocean...just gimme about 4 hours warning so I can pack up what is important to me.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: cjgallen
Everyone is a little gay, some more than others.

Projecting Junior? I think vast majority of people haven't any homosexuasl tendencies what so ever.

 

[Geekbabe]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: poopaskoopa
My friend's parents divorced, the hubby went gay, showed up for his daughter's wedding with his b/f. This wasn't his coming out party, however, as everyone in the family had met the BF a while back. The weird part was that he and his b/f dressed the same, with the same haircut and the mustache that looked about the same.

Maybe he was in love with himself!

Me-Harmony

ROTFLOL!

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: poopaskoopa
My friend's parents divorced, the hubby went gay, showed up for his daughter's wedding with his b/f. This wasn't his coming out party, however, as everyone in the family had met the BF a while back. The weird part was that he and his b/f dressed the same, with the same haircut and the mustache that looked about the same.

Maybe he was in love with himself!

Me-Harmony

Heh:laugh:

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: Geekbabe

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: poopaskoopa
My friend's parents divorced, the hubby went gay, showed up for his daughter's wedding with his b/f. This wasn't his coming out party, however, as everyone in the family had met the BF a while back. The weird part was that he and his b/f dressed the same, with the same haircut and the mustache that looked about the same.

Maybe he was in love with himself!

Me-Harmony

ROTFLOL!

hehe

One day the whole Hetero/Homo issue might be a thing of the past. I don't think who you slept with really matters as far as Identity is concerned, nor do I think it should matter to someone else. What's more important is that people eventually settle down and choose a partner and be faithful to that partner. After all, when a person is young they are generally attractive, but as one ages you better lock in on something good since your attractiveness declines with time.

 

[aplefka]

I really do think that there are some girls who just like the abuse subconsciously, and in order to make this seem like it wasn't true she decided to go out with women instead of men.

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: compuwiz1 Do hetero ever go gay?.

Yes . . . every day . . . hundreds [at least] . . . look at convicts confined to prisons.

The actions you perform do not necessarily have anything to do with which gender you are sexually attracted to.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Astaroth33

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: compuwiz1 Do hetero ever go gay?.

Yes . . . every day . . . hundreds [at least] . . . look at convicts confined to prisons.

The actions you perform do not necessarily have anything to do with which gender you are sexually attracted to.

:roll:

yeah . . . sure . . . uh huh

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: compuwiz1
In our neighborhood, we have a gal, who's name I won't mention, as I've known (not really well, mind you) , but I used to see her, her hubby and kids dress up on Sunday, presumably to go to church, brunch, or whatever.

About 2 1/2 years ago, there was some kind of argument, the hubby leaves. About a month later, this kind of good looking Asian gal comes to the house. They are having a BBQ, kids seem happy and all are partying. The Asian gal and our neighbor are out looking at her car, which is a Nissan 350z. They get into it and are listening to some music for about 30min, they they get out, and are all over each other, while heading back into the house, while the kids are doing whatever they are doing. Ok, fine. I guess a relationship has begun. Almost as fast as she showed up that night, seems like she has moved in. All seems cool, but one night there are all these arguments, then suddenly, she's gone. Never seen her in the months since.

Fast forward about 2mos later.... This chick pulls up, with a big lifted Chevy 4.x4 P/U. She comes out of the house and gives the gal a hug, then they go inside. I noticed that it has Montana license plates on it. I'm thinking that this is a long lost cousin, or something. Ok, cool, I don't see them again for a few days. Next time I see them, they are by the curb next to the big Chev 4x4. Cowboy chick is cranking up the music, opening the hood, and basically actiong like a dude. :Q
A couple days later, a big U-Haul truck pulls up and a bunch of people help move all the crap out and into her garage.

So, now it looks like Cuz, or Auntie has decided to stay awhile....Wrong! I'm leaving for work and see them in their driveway kissing so hard, I'd have to say they were tickling each others tonsils with their tongues. Ewwww, I thought, but whatever. Afterall, diversity is what makes America great, right?

Now we go about 90 days forward. There is this huge commotion in the neighborhood, and he/she/it gets arrested. Apparently there was a domestic quarrel and the he/she/it, basically beat the crap out the mom, in front of her kids. The cops came and so far, about 90 days later, we've not seen Cow-girl, boy, whatever.

In my synopsis, I guess, some women leave abusive men, just to turn gay and be abused by a woman instead.

You spend waaay too much time giving a sh!t what your neighbors are doing.

Edit-The house at the end of our street sold recently and two women are living there now. They have a dog that they walk together ever day but other than that I almost never see them. They are in their mid to late 30s I'd guess. Really nice people, I couldn't ask for better neighbors. I don't know if they're gay, don't really give a crap. They are nice people.

 

[Wag]

Yep, and you're next.

 

[Muadib]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Astaroth33

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: compuwiz1 Do hetero ever go gay?.

Yes . . . every day . . . hundreds [at least] . . . look at convicts confined to prisons.

The actions you perform do not necessarily have anything to do with which gender you are sexually attracted to.

:roll:

yeah . . . sure . . . uh huh

Sadly this is likely to be true. The weak are constantly preyed upon in prison. I can imagine many give up the butt just to avoid harm. That doen't make them gay though.

 

[Ornery]

Originally posted by: MAME

I'm not talking about everyone, I'm talking about there being at least one person.

Seeing as how my friend is one of these people (and sonz70 will soon be another), I can say, with 100% accuracy, that 'hetero do go gay'

AMERICAN ACADEMY OF PEDIATRICS

• In 1973, the American Psychiatric Association reclassified homosexuality as a sexual orientation/expression rather than as a mental disorder. [1] The etiology of homosexuality remains unclear, but the current literature and the vast majority of scholars in this field state that one's sexual orientation is not a choice, that is, individuals no more choose to be homosexual than heterosexual.

American Psychiatric Association

• "...the American Psychiatric Association opposes any psychiatric treatment, such as reparative or conversion therapy which is based upon the assumption that homosexuality per se is a mental disorder or based upon the a priori assumption that the patient should change his/her sexual homosexual orientation."

American Psychiatric Association

• "There are a few reports in the literature of efforts to use psychotherapeutic and counseling techniques to treat persons troubled by their homosexuality who desire to become heterosexual; however, results have not been conclusive, nor have they been replicated. There is no evidence that any treatment can change a homosexual person's deep seated sexual feelings for others of the same sex. "

American Psychological Association

• Is Sexual Orientation a Choice?
  
  No, human beings can not choose to be either gay or straight. Sexual orientation emerges for most people in early adolescence without any prior sexual experience. Although we can choose whether to act on our feelings, psychologists do not consider sexual orientation to be a conscious choice that can be voluntarily changed."

AMERICAN PSYCHIATRIC ASSOCIATION BOLSTERS CONDEMNATION OF REPARATIVE THERAPY' TO CHANGE' GAYS

• The American Psychiatric Association was the first mental health organization to remove homosexuality as a mental disorder in 1973. In August 1997, the American Psychological Association overwhelmingly passed a resolution at its convention that asserted that there is no sound scientific evidence on the efficacy of "reparative therapy," which seeks to "cure" homosexuals.

The APA Resolution on Appropriate Therapeutic Responses to Sexual Orientation

• Attempts to use psychological interventions to change sexual orientation are based on the discredited claim that homosexuality is a disease, a notion that represents an attempt to use the language of science to promote antigay prejudice. That view is completely inconsistent with the bulk of scientific research and with the official policies of the American Psychological Association (APA) and the American Psychiatric Association.
  
  
  It is highly doubtful that the so-called "conversion therapies" and "reparative therapies" are actually able to change a person's sexual orientation. Claims about their success are based on scattered anecdotal reports, not on rigorous scientific studies that have been subjected to review by other scientists...

Organizations of US Mental Health Professionals Are Unanimous:

• Perhaps the best rebuttal to claims that gay or lesbian people can "change" their orientation is citation of the many organizations of health care professionals who have officially condemned "conversion" therapies. These include the following:
  
  American Academy of Pediatrics (1993):
  "Therapy directed specifically at changing sexual orientation is contraindicated, since it can provoke guilt and anxiety while having little or no potential for achieving changes in orientation."
  
  American Psychiatric Association (1998):
  "The potential risks of 'reparative therapy' are great, including depression, anxiety and self-destructive behavior. . . . [T]he American Psychiatric Association opposes any psychiatric treatment, such as 'reparative' or 'conversion' therapy, which is based upon the assumption that homosexuality per se is a mental disorder or based upon a prior assumption that the patient should change his/her homosexual orientation." In response to Dr. Spitzer's new research (described below), the APA issued a statement affirming its position and cautioning that "there is no published evidence supporting the efficacy of reparative therapy as a treatment to change one's sexual orientation." The APA removed homosexuality from its list of disorders in 1973.
  
  American Psychological Association (1997):
  "No scientific evidence exists to support the effectiveness of any of the conversion therapies that try to change sexual orientation." The association removed homosexuality from its list of disorders in 1975.
  
  National Association of Social Workers (2000):
  "No data demonstrate that reparative and conversion therapies are effective, and in fact they may be harmful. . . . uch treatment potentially can lead to severe emotional damage." The association removed homosexuality from its list of disorders in 1977.
  
  Cohler & Galatzer-Levy Report (commissioned by the American Psychoanalytic Association) (2000):
  "The mental health community must confront the ethics of directed efforts at changing sexual orientation. Generally these efforts are not successful. . . . uch purportedly therapeutic efforts do not work and may cause harm." The association removed homosexuality from its list of disorders in 1991.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Muadib

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Astaroth33

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: compuwiz1 Do hetero ever go gay?.

Yes . . . every day . . . hundreds [at least] . . . look at convicts confined to prisons.

The actions you perform do not necessarily have anything to do with which gender you are sexually attracted to.

:roll:

yeah . . . sure . . . uh huh

Sadly this is likely to be true. The weak are constantly preyed upon in prison. I can imagine many give up the butt just to avoid harm. That doen't make them gay though.

i'm talking about the perps - most [95%] were hetro or prefer women . . . not those that are raped.

 

[MAME]

Originally posted by: Ornery

Originally posted by: MAME

I'm not talking about everyone, I'm talking about there being at least one person.

Seeing as how my friend is one of these people (and sonz70 will soon be another), I can say, with 100% accuracy, that 'hetero do go gay'

AMERICAN ACADEMY OF PEDIATRICS

• In 1973, the American Psychiatric Association reclassified homosexuality as a sexual orientation/expression rather than as a mental disorder. [1] The etiology of homosexuality remains unclear, but the current literature and the vast majority of scholars in this field state that one's sexual orientation is not a choice, that is, individuals no more choose to be homosexual than heterosexual.

American Psychiatric Association

• "...the American Psychiatric Association opposes any psychiatric treatment, such as reparative or conversion therapy which is based upon the assumption that homosexuality per se is a mental disorder or based upon the a priori assumption that the patient should change his/her sexual homosexual orientation."

American Psychiatric Association

• "There are a few reports in the literature of efforts to use psychotherapeutic and counseling techniques to treat persons troubled by their homosexuality who desire to become heterosexual; however, results have not been conclusive, nor have they been replicated. There is no evidence that any treatment can change a homosexual person's deep seated sexual feelings for others of the same sex. "

American Psychological Association

• Is Sexual Orientation a Choice?
  
  No, human beings can not choose to be either gay or straight. Sexual orientation emerges for most people in early adolescence without any prior sexual experience. Although we can choose whether to act on our feelings, psychologists do not consider sexual orientation to be a conscious choice that can be voluntarily changed."

AMERICAN PSYCHIATRIC ASSOCIATION BOLSTERS CONDEMNATION OF REPARATIVE THERAPY' TO CHANGE' GAYS

• The American Psychiatric Association was the first mental health organization to remove homosexuality as a mental disorder in 1973. In August 1997, the American Psychological Association overwhelmingly passed a resolution at its convention that asserted that there is no sound scientific evidence on the efficacy of "reparative therapy," which seeks to "cure" homosexuals.

The APA Resolution on Appropriate Therapeutic Responses to Sexual Orientation

• Attempts to use psychological interventions to change sexual orientation are based on the discredited claim that homosexuality is a disease, a notion that represents an attempt to use the language of science to promote antigay prejudice. That view is completely inconsistent with the bulk of scientific research and with the official policies of the American Psychological Association (APA) and the American Psychiatric Association.
  
  
  It is highly doubtful that the so-called "conversion therapies" and "reparative therapies" are actually able to change a person's sexual orientation. Claims about their success are based on scattered anecdotal reports, not on rigorous scientific studies that have been subjected to review by other scientists...

Organizations of US Mental Health Professionals Are Unanimous:

• Perhaps the best rebuttal to claims that gay or lesbian people can "change" their orientation is citation of the many organizations of health care professionals who have officially condemned "conversion" therapies. These include the following:
  
  American Academy of Pediatrics (1993):
  "Therapy directed specifically at changing sexual orientation is contraindicated, since it can provoke guilt and anxiety while having little or no potential for achieving changes in orientation."
  
  American Psychiatric Association (1998):
  "The potential risks of 'reparative therapy' are great, including depression, anxiety and self-destructive behavior. . . . [T]he American Psychiatric Association opposes any psychiatric treatment, such as 'reparative' or 'conversion' therapy, which is based upon the assumption that homosexuality per se is a mental disorder or based upon a prior assumption that the patient should change his/her homosexual orientation." In response to Dr. Spitzer's new research (described below), the APA issued a statement affirming its position and cautioning that "there is no published evidence supporting the efficacy of reparative therapy as a treatment to change one's sexual orientation." The APA removed homosexuality from its list of disorders in 1973.
  
  American Psychological Association (1997):
  "No scientific evidence exists to support the effectiveness of any of the conversion therapies that try to change sexual orientation." The association removed homosexuality from its list of disorders in 1975.
  
  National Association of Social Workers (2000):
  "No data demonstrate that reparative and conversion therapies are effective, and in fact they may be harmful. . . . uch treatment potentially can lead to severe emotional damage." The association removed homosexuality from its list of disorders in 1977.
  
  Cohler & Galatzer-Levy Report (commissioned by the American Psychoanalytic Association) (2000):
  "The mental health community must confront the ethics of directed efforts at changing sexual orientation. Generally these efforts are not successful. . . . uch purportedly therapeutic efforts do not work and may cause harm." The association removed homosexuality from its list of disorders in 1991.

Although everything there neither agrees or disagrees with what I said, I do agree that it's not simply a choice that someone makes. "Today I will be attracted to men" or something stupid like that.

As for my comment, people can and have switched orientations (but generally not on a whim like some may assume)

 

[Ornery]

Originally posted by: MAME

Although everything there neither agrees or disagrees with what I said, I do agree that it's not simply a choice that someone makes. "Today I will be attracted to men" or something stupid like that.

As for my comment, people can and have switched orientations (but generally not on a whim like some may assume)

You said, "I can say, with 100% accuracy, that 'hetero do go gay', which is 180 degrees from what you just read! Your reasoning is 100% backward, and your ability to crop a huge quote is even WORSE!

 

[MAME]

Originally posted by: Ornery

Originally posted by: MAME

Although everything there neither agrees or disagrees with what I said, I do agree that it's not simply a choice that someone makes. "Today I will be attracted to men" or something stupid like that.

As for my comment, people can and have switched orientations (but generally not on a whim like some may assume)

You said, "I can say, with 100% accuracy, that 'hetero do go gay', which is 180 degrees from what you just read! Your reasoning is 100% backward, and your ability to crop a huge quote is even WORSE!

what does not having a choice have to do with going from heterosexual to homosexual? The question was "do hetero ever go gay" and the answer is, of course, yes. I never stated the reason for the change. So I still can say, with 100% accuracy, that 'hetero do go gay'

 

[Ornery]

Only in the same way that 'males go to female', or 'lefies go to righty', would that jibe with those studies.

 

[DurocShark]

The problem with this post is that you're assuming that hetero and gay are states of being mutually exclusive of each other.

They're not.