Do fish feel pain?

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I think they are cold blooded and therefor do not feel pain. Mammles on the other hand certainly do. Am I right?
 

vohwink1

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But what makes you think just because they don't regulate their body tempeture means their pain-sensing nerves fail to function?
 

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pain-sensing nerves fail to function

Is that whats it called... There is a big difference between cold-blooded animals and mammles. I'm pretty sure fish don't feel pain if they are cold blooded.
 

1967mustangman

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I saw something that said that fish do feel pain, but it only triggers a flight instinct. The study said that a fish does not have the correct kind of brain for suffering.
 

Yo Ma Ma

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They used to think newborns didn't feel pain, either, even during surgery.

For fish, just to be safe treat them like they do feel pain, can't go wrong that way. Our family always dispatched the catch with a swift blow to the head before proceeding with the cutting, gutting, etc.
 

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you stab a fish with a stick and watch it go nuts.
or catfish who make that crying sound only when hooked.
I think they feel pain, maybe not prolonged suffering or any real sentience, but basic pain, sure. I think its a part of survival. If they didn't then they wouldn't care if they lived or died.

-M.T.O
 

yellowperil

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All fish have notochords, so I assume they need some sort of sensation to let them know they're in danger.
 

1967mustangman

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Did you hear the one about the huge lobster that was at a resturaunt and some animal rights activist stole it to try and save its life. Yeah, well they dropped it and cracked its shell open and when the police interviewed the store owner he said he was never going to cook it anyway.
 

damac

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why do they jump around, get agitated and breathe heavier when being scaled alive? You can be petting one and holding it tight and I have seen on tv on foodnetwork where they scale a sucker to where its not even bleeding and they start going nuts?

So is it just a fear instinct to always get away? I think they feel pain.
 

HansHurt

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Well, *blurb* I AM a fish *burblublubble* so speaking for all my brothers and sisters.......*blop* *gabloo* *blabob*
 

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There was talk about this few years ago, scientists figured out that they do feel pain and hobby fishermen in Australia got extremely pissed. So yes they do feel pain.

Pain is only to trigger instinct, for us when you put your hand in something hot you feel pain and you pull your hand extremely fast towards you. Same is with the fish.
 

littleprince

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just because there cold blooded doesnt mean they dont feel pain!
why would you think something like that?

the difference is just that they dont generate there own body heat...

 

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<< LARAMIE, Wyo. (AP) -- A University of Wyoming neuroscientists said he has done research that counters claims by animal rights groups that fishing is a cruel and inhumane sport.

&quot;I don't believe fish are capable of feeling pain, not in the sense that we are, and I have a large base of science to back that up,&quot; said Dr. Jim Rose, an avid angler.

Rose said his research has led him to conclude that fish do not feel pain because they lack a neocortex, a part of the brain that gives humans the ability to feel pain.

Rose conducted experiments in which he removed a larger portion of the fish brain, the cerebrum, an area in humans where a neocortex is located, and found no change in fish behavior.

A fish thrashing on a hook is reacting to a threat to its bodily harm, but not necessarily out of pain, he said. The findings could protect fishing as an American pastime and ensure sensible fisheries management that focuses on pollution and development, he said.

&quot;Unfortunately emotions and politics are beginning to threaten parts of fishery management that should be based on solid science,&quot; he said.

Dawn Carr of the People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals called Rose's assertion &quot;an argument of convenience.&quot;

Fish are obviously in pain on hooks, from the way they thrash around, she said.

&quot;Fish are not cute and cuddly but they feel just as much pain as dogs and cats,&quot; she said
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natto fire

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Maybe you should ask one.

j/k they probably do but nobody knows how much and in what degree. I have a feeling that if you hooked yourself in the mouth and someone pulled the holy hell out of you then you are going to feel more pain than any fish.

we have more nerves than fish allowing us to feel a greater range of pain and more amounts of it.
 

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I hope not, I had a ton of very old goldfish (6 years old!) and I was cleaning they tank, and I think I might have put them in the tank a little to early and froze them to death. :(!
 

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I dunno if they feel pain or not, but i feel them swooshing around in my mouth i eat them ~meow~ ...... ;):p