Do computer techs here know what they're doing?!

NeoPTLD

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We've got a bunch of Dell Optiplex computers with 14"(probably 1402FP) and 17" (Dell 1702FP) LCDs in the library.

Things look blocky whenever I use the 17" and I was playing with the control buttons on the LCD and I just realized both 17 and 14" are driven at 1024x768@60Hz. On the 17", when I recall this, it displays "1280x1024" as optimum.

Not only they're wasting the higher resolution pontential, it makes things look shoddy.
 

hjo3

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Maybe the techs just don't care if the students have to stare at slightly blurry monitors. I know I don't.
 

Joker81

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Maybe because they all were imaged at the 1024x768 and they didn't want to have to redo a whole image for a screen resolution. I do a lot of re-imaging of machines and Im not going to run around to 100 computers and change the resolution so someone else can see it easier.

Just every time you go into the library sit at one of the comuters iwht the wrong resolution and change it.
 

NeoPTLD

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Originally posted by: Joker81
Maybe because they all were imaged at the 1024x768 and they didn't want to have to redo a whole image for a screen resolution. I do a lot of re-imaging of machines and Im not going to run around to 100 computers and change the resolution so someone else can see it easier.

Just every time you go into the library sit at one of the comuters iwht the wrong resolution and change it.

You're one of those incompetent tech with poor work ethics.

I see that you lack experience too. If you worked on any public library or university library computers, you would have learned by now that users aren't granted access to settings.
 

fredtam

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Originally posted by: NeoPTLD
Originally posted by: Joker81
Maybe because they all were imaged at the 1024x768 and they didn't want to have to redo a whole image for a screen resolution. I do a lot of re-imaging of machines and Im not going to run around to 100 computers and change the resolution so someone else can see it easier.

Just every time you go into the library sit at one of the comuters iwht the wrong resolution and change it.

You're one of those incompetent tech with poor work ethics.

I see that you lack experience too. If you worked on any public library or university library computers, you would have learned by now that users aren't granted access to settings.

 

Joker81

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Originally posted by: NeoPTLD
Originally posted by: Joker81
Maybe because they all were imaged at the 1024x768 and they didn't want to have to redo a whole image for a screen resolution. I do a lot of re-imaging of machines and Im not going to run around to 100 computers and change the resolution so someone else can see it easier.

Just every time you go into the library sit at one of the comuters iwht the wrong resolution and change it.

You're one of those incompetent tech with poor work ethics.

I see that you lack experience too. If you worked on any public library or university library computers, you would have learned by now that users aren't granted access to settings.

Haha. Our lab is a little lax on changing the resolution so anybody can. I always log in with power user or greater though so I never have to experience restrictions.

Untrue about me being an incompetent tech.

In our school computer labs(except the one I work in) all the computers have software that undos all changes made by the user get reverted back to original. And you can basically change resolution install programs anything you like(except maybe delete certain windows files). So you are wrong on that account too.

I don't know how by not changing the resolution on a screen makes me incompetent.


 

Spoooon

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One of the computer labs at my school has it setup to where all the 17 inch LCDs are at 1024X768. I hate it.

Oh god, and I cringed today in class. I had a computer lab reserved and was teaching SPSS. I was showing a student how to do something on the screen, and she pointed to one of the columns and dragged her finger down along the column. She pressed down hard enough to where the image was distorted. It's bad enough touching the screen, but why did she have to actually apply pressure? :|

edit: I can change the resolution, but it's not saved. I suppose it's because of all the different sized monitors around campus.
 

mundane

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Originally posted by: Spoooon
One of the computer labs at my school has it setup to where all the 17 inch LCDs are at 1024X768. I hate it. Oh god, and I cringed today in class. I had a computer lab reserved and was teaching SPSS. I was showing a student how to do something on the screen, and she pointed to one of the columns and dragged her finger down along the column. She pressed down hard enough to where the image was distorted. It's bad enough touching the screen, but why did she have to actually apply pressure? :|

I always wince at that - people seem to think that LCD screens are somehow magically touchpads. Or maybe they like the way the color changes. Either way, it's part of my tuition $ that's going to pay for the labs, and I'm not thrilled with people using their fingers (and pens, occassionally) to gesture on the screen.
 

Spoooon

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I always wince at that - people seem to think that LCD screens are somehow magically touchpads. Or maybe they like the way the color changes. Either way, it's part of my tuition $ that's going to pay for the labs, and I'm not thrilled with people using their fingers (and pens, occassionally) to gesture on the screen.
Yeah, it sucks thinking about it that way. Ugh, they should require some sort of class or something before allowing people access to the computer labs. Or assess some kind of fine if they catch you abusing the equipment.
 

Joker81

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Originally posted by: Spoooon
I always wince at that - people seem to think that LCD screens are somehow magically touchpads. Or maybe they like the way the color changes. Either way, it's part of my tuition $ that's going to pay for the labs, and I'm not thrilled with people using their fingers (and pens, occassionally) to gesture on the screen.
Yeah, it sucks thinking about it that way. Ugh, they should require some sort of class or something before allowing people access to the computer labs. Or assess some kind of fine if they catch you abusing the equipment.

Especially girls with their Nails. Whenever someone gets near my LCD i say don't touch the screen.

I had to help get rid of the virus' that went around and in one tech center on campus someone(later I found out an ex-employee who still had keys) had slashed each and everyone of about 15 18" LCD screens. That would've pissed the F out of me.
 

nsafreak

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Originally posted by: Spoooon
One of the computer labs at my school has it setup to where all the 17 inch LCDs are at 1024X768. I hate it.

Oh god, and I cringed today in class. I had a computer lab reserved and was teaching SPSS. I was showing a student how to do something on the screen, and she pointed to one of the columns and dragged her finger down along the column. She pressed down hard enough to where the image was distorted. It's bad enough touching the screen, but why did she have to actually apply pressure? :|

edit: I can change the resolution, but it's not saved. I suppose it's because of all the different sized monitors around campus.

If somebody did that to my Dell 1801FP they'd be short a few fingers :frown:
 

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Originally posted by: NeoPTLD
We've got a bunch of Dell Optiplex computers with 14"(probably 1402FP) and 17" (Dell 1702FP) LCDs in the library.

Things look blocky whenever I use the 17" and I was playing with the control buttons on the LCD and I just realized both 17 and 14" are driven at 1024x768@60Hz. On the 17", when I recall this, it displays "1280x1024" as optimum.

Not only they're wasting the higher resolution pontential, it makes things look shoddy.

it is a library right?

mb some people can't read very well at the 1280x1024.

 

Spoooon

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I don't understand why people have to actually touch the screen. If you can't describe what you're talking about adequately, then have your finger hover an inch above the LCD over whatever it is you need to point out. Argh, I hate people.
 

cucumber

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One time I went to a Best Buy just to look around at stuff. I saw a sales guy (more like teen aged ghetto thug...) showing
a customer LCD monitors. I over heard the customer asking for touch screen monitors. The sales guy then starts poking
(pretty hard too) the LCD panels. The colors were swirling and wooshing around as he did it. He then said something to this
effect " All of these are touch screens" while poking the monitors. "See? (refering to the distorting colors...) They're touch
screens."

I was horrified by this scene. I had just finished setting up a touch screen monitor POS (point of sale, not the other pos...)
system for a restaraunt a few days before this. I didn't know much about them at first, but I researched the hell out of them
before doing the job.

I had to intervene. After the sales guy left, I told the cusomer that these were not touch screens and named a few brands
and places where he could buy them.

The guy was gratefull to hear this. He didn't know much (or anything really) about computers, but even he had a hard time
trusting the sales guy.
 

drum

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Originally posted by: cucumber
One time I went to a Best Buy just to look around at stuff. I saw a sales guy (more like teen aged ghetto thug...) showing
a customer LCD monitors. I over heard the customer asking for touch screen monitors. The sales guy then starts poking
(pretty hard too) the LCD panels. The colors were swirling and wooshing around as he did it. He then said something to this
effect " All of these are touch screens" while poking the monitors. "See? (refering to the distorting colors...) They're touch
screens."

I was horrified by this scene. I had just finished setting up a touch screen monitor POS (point of sale, not the other pos...)
system for a restaraunt a few days before this. I didn't know much about them at first, but I researched the hell out of them
before doing the job.


I had to intervene. After the sales guy left, I told the cusomer that these were not touch screens and named a few brands
and places where he could buy them.

The guy was gratefull to hear this. He didn't know much (or anything really) about computers, but even he had a hard time
trusting the sales guy.

Oh. My. God. :Q
 

hjo3

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Originally posted by: Joker81
In our school computer labs(except the one I work in) all the computers have software that undos all changes made by the user get reverted back to original. And you can basically change resolution install programs anything you like(except maybe delete certain windows files). So you are wrong on that account too.
That's how it was at the university and the community college I attended. Seems like NeoPTLD is the inexperienced one to me.
 

Siddhartha

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Originally posted by: NeoPTLD
We've got a bunch of Dell Optiplex computers with 14"(probably 1402FP) and 17" (Dell 1702FP) LCDs in the library.

Things look blocky whenever I use the 17" and I was playing with the control buttons on the LCD and I just realized both 17 and 14" are driven at 1024x768@60Hz. On the 17", when I recall this, it displays "1280x1024" as optimum.

Not only they're wasting the higher resolution pontential, it makes things look shoddy.

Perhaps, the person who ordered the monitors choose that resolution? I am sure the "computer techs" you refer to are following instructions.
 

NeoPTLD

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Originally posted by: Joker81<br.

Haha. Our lab is a little lax on changing the resolution so anybody can. I always log in with power user or greater though so I never have to experience restrictions.

Thus you lack the knowledge of what's really going on outside of your own access privilege. You just admitted your ignorance.
 

Siddhartha

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Originally posted by: cucumber
One time I went to a Best Buy just to look around at stuff. I saw a sales guy (more like teen aged ghetto thug...) showing
a customer LCD monitors. I over heard the customer asking for touch screen monitors. The sales guy then starts poking
(pretty hard too) the LCD panels. The colors were swirling and wooshing around as he did it. He then said something to this
effect " All of these are touch screens" while poking the monitors. "See? (refering to the distorting colors...) They're touch
screens."

I was horrified by this scene. I had just finished setting up a touch screen monitor POS (point of sale, not the other pos...)
system for a restaraunt a few days before this. I didn't know much about them at first, but I researched the hell out of them
before doing the job.

I had to intervene. After the sales guy left, I told the cusomer that these were not touch screens and named a few brands
and places where he could buy them.

The guy was gratefull to hear this. He didn't know much (or anything really) about computers, but even he had a hard time
trusting the sales guy.


"more like teen aged ghetto thug..."

Do a lot of you guys see the world this way?
 

Mookow

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Originally posted by: NeoPTLD
We've got a bunch of Dell Optiplex computers with 14"(probably 1402FP) and 17" (Dell 1702FP) LCDs in the library.

Things look blocky whenever I use the 17" and I was playing with the control buttons on the LCD and I just realized both 17 and 14" are driven at 1024x768@60Hz. On the 17", when I recall this, it displays "1280x1024" as optimum.

Not only they're wasting the higher resolution pontential, it makes things look shoddy.

You want to know what else LCD stands for? Lowest Common Denominator. Which is what they have to set the resolutions for... people with vision problems that can take looking at small text. Which includes old people. It would be better if it was user adjustable, but life isnt perfect.
 

Joker81

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Originally posted by: NeoPTLD

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Thus you lack the knowledge of what's really going on outside of your own access privilege. You just admitted your ignorance.

I seriously cannot believe you just said that.

So are you saying that every Tech should know what every other library system is running on?



 

cucumber

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I didn't mean it in a bad way towards teenagers in general. I don't think badly of them. I meant this guy in particular.
(I'm not that far off from being one. I'm older but not so old as to dismiss them all as being fools.....)

As far as being a ghetto thug, I might be a little too judgmental, but it's hard to take someone seriously when he can't
complete a sentence without saying yo or dawg.
 

AFB

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Originally posted by: Joker81
Originally posted by: Spoooon
I always wince at that - people seem to think that LCD screens are somehow magically touchpads. Or maybe they like the way the color changes. Either way, it's part of my tuition $ that's going to pay for the labs, and I'm not thrilled with people using their fingers (and pens, occassionally) to gesture on the screen.
Yeah, it sucks thinking about it that way. Ugh, they should require some sort of class or something before allowing people access to the computer labs. Or assess some kind of fine if they catch you abusing the equipment.

Especially girls with their Nails. Whenever someone gets near my LCD i say don't touch the screen.

I had to help get rid of the virus' that went around and in one tech center on campus someone(later I found out an ex-employee who still had keys) had slashed each and everyone of about 15 18" LCD screens. That would've pissed the F out of me.


I would have slashed them :|:|