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Do all X2 motherboards require flashing?

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stockriderman

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I am thinking of buying a 4400 in 2 weeks or so. After long consideration I'll be selling my AGP card and going the PCI-E route. What are best Nf4 motherboards and do they require flashing? Will it recoignize the cpu,atleast so I can install windows first and download the bios update?Also please suggest a few good motherboards
 
To boot up??? maybe not....

To be properly recognized with all features?? very Likely....

Buy a new board and chances are it wont be flased to the lastest X2 supported bios....However for most of the boards I have seen they will at least boot so you could flash it immediately
 
Flashing = is the term used in which a person firmware updates the bios chip on the motherboard. It is the brains of the motherboard and key to hardware harmony....Usually done with a floppy disk drive but lately has been more and more supported thorugh windows application be it from manufacturer supplied programs to winflash....very easy....Key is to make sure you ae 100% stable when doing it. If you do it at an OC'd speed make sure it is stable. A crash during the flashing process could produce an unrecoverable bios chip and dead mobo....
 
just kidding .. you will need to flash the BIOS so that the motherboard will recognise new hardware that has been released.. your bios is the black screen you see at the beginning .. what you are seeing is a P.O.S.T .. power on self test this is a basic test to make sure the basic hardware is installed (i.e. CPU, RAM GFX .. the other hardware like HDD's are not mandatory to boot so this is not checked), the BIOS controls the parameters of the hardware ... flashing the BIOS is literaly just like a software update (although flashing the BIOS is actually re-programming it)
 
Don't I need Windows to flash the mobo. I had to flash my A7NX8 motherboard and it was a Windows program.

Is ther a list of motherboards that do NOT support the new dual cores yet?
 
You do not need windows and like mentioned above you do not even need a HDD installed...just a floppy disk drive will do just fine.....This is more archaic and most do not do this as much anymore...


Their is a List at AMD for official support and most all of them are NF4 mobos at this point....Their is another list floating around that shows status of NF3 ultra boards and NF4 boards that have been confirmed to boot and work with X2's even without 100% official recognition by AMD has fully supported. Some manufacturers are currently working on them or have beta bioses in testing...
 
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Originally posted by: RichUK
ahh Duvie beet me to it .. i was making a cup of tea in the meanwhile 😉
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Sorry to hear about the attack on your country today....
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thanks for your support .. i know it is a very sad day 🙁
 
Originally posted by: RichUK
Originally posted by: Duvie
Originally posted by: RichUK
ahh Duvie beet me to it .. i was making a cup of tea in the meanwhile 😉
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Sorry to hear about the attack on your country today....
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thanks for your support .. i know it is a very sad day 🙁
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you know the USA has your back....You are pretty much our only friend we can ever count on...



 
The latest AT article on nForce 4 mobo's says you need Revision E support on the BIOS to boot up, and then even if you don't have DC support, you can still boot up as the mobo will see a single core, then you can update the BIOS to dual core.
You will need Revision E BIOS support though I believe.
 
Originally posted by: Duvie
Originally posted by: RichUK
Originally posted by: Duvie
Originally posted by: RichUK
ahh Duvie beet me to it .. i was making a cup of tea in the meanwhile 😉
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Sorry to hear about the attack on your country today....
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thanks for your support .. i know it is a very sad day 🙁
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you know the USA has your back....You are pretty much our only friend we can ever count on...
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Im just glad we have the Americans as our greatest allies 😀

EDIT: sorry fo the thread hyjack 🙂

 
Originally posted by: Lonyo
The latest AT article on nForce 4 mobo's says you need Revision E support on the BIOS to boot up, and then even if you don't have DC support, you can still boot up as the mobo will see a single core, then you can update the BIOS to dual core.
You will need Revision E BIOS support though I believe.
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that is actually not correct or all true for all boards...

the Neo 2 boards stil do not hav ean official Rev E bios yet...PPl have been able to boot X2's with bioses 1.62 to 1.8....The beta bioses like 1.9b5 and 1.9b6 ar eactually the first Rev E bios and it is not offcial yet....

I bet it wil boot on most systems period...vcore wcan be way off an fit likely wont post the black screen saying an X2..likely wont recognize the 2nd core as well, but should be stable long enough to flash to a newer bios...
 
The only motherboard I am aware of that supports the X2 out-of-the-box is DFI's recently-released nForce3 Lanparty. It ships with a BIOS that recognizes X2 (no need to flash)

As a side-note, I can share my experience with an Asus A8V Deluxe that was using a BIOS that was too old to know what an X2 was: it was able to POST, but wouldn't go any further. I was, however, able to get into the BIOS and configure the floppy drive to boot. From that point I was able to boot up and flash the BIOS from my floppy disk.
 
i wish msi come out soon with a bios that support the x2 and the new x2 3800 4000 cpu's for my msi K8N neo2 Platinum.
 
Originally posted by: Duvie
Originally posted by: RichUK
Originally posted by: Duvie
Originally posted by: RichUK
ahh Duvie beet me to it .. i was making a cup of tea in the meanwhile 😉
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Sorry to hear about the attack on your country today....
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thanks for your support .. i know it is a very sad day 🙁
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you know the USA has your back....You are pretty much our only friend we can ever count on...
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Sadly, that's true, since Canaduh is run by the most idiotic party out there...:roll:

Sorry to hear about the bombings over there too RichUK...it's a sad day 🙁
 
very older bios's Will probly not even Post the system (not boot up you just get fans and thats it)

1 get an older 939 cpu (130mm core) to do an bios upgrade
2 ask your mobo provider to send you the bios chip to replace your old one (if it can be replaced)
1 is alot easyer to do

most moden mobos should at least post with 1 of the 2 cores working
 
The ASUS A8N-E posts with the older BIOS that it ships (or at least that mine shipped) with, though an update to the latest BIOS is most likely required (I flashed right away and didn't test to see if the older BIOS worked as well).
 
Are you talking about this one?

DFI Lanparty UT nF3 Ultra-D Socket 939 nVidia nForce3 Ultra Dual DDR400 6-Ch Audio Raid 0/1/0+1/JBOD IEEE 1394 AGP8X

Cause i may just get it(if it's a good one) and get on with my life...
 
The official line from AMD is:
"If the BIOS you are working with (original BIOS in the board) supports a rev E single core (AKA... 90nm as most new boards should), it will allow you to flash the BIOS to a BIOS that supports rev E dual core. In my experience, a DC processor with single core rev E support will run fine, but only as a single core. If the BIOS doesn't support rev E (In other words, you may have a good board, but the BIOS is pretty old), you will likely need to install a pre-rev E (AKA-130nm) AMD processor to flash the BIOS.

I'm told that if a customer can't flash their BIOS, many mobo vendors will mail out the BIOS chip to them (if it's not soldered down, obviously)"
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