dnetc on startup

[tontod]

I have a question, excuse me if it seems trivial, but how do I make dnetc start up minimized when I start windows (without putting it in the startup folder)? Thanks.

 

[Russ]

If by minimized, you want to be able to "maximize" and take a look from time to time by clicking the cow icon, the only way I know of is to place it in the startup folder.

If you mean install it so it starts at bootup and doesn't appear anywhere, you'd install it as a service:

dnetc.exe -install.

This will hide it completely.

Russ, NCNE

DAMNED KEYBOARD!

 

[tontod]

thanks Russ, I installed dnetc on a friend's computer (with his permission) and didnt want to put it in the startup folder. I'll try the -install option.

 

[Russ]

I understand that. If there is an icon somewhere, there are a lot of people who open it up and click that little "x" in the upper right.

Russ, NCNE

 

[tontod]

yeah

then get ready for a duron 800 to do RC5 work for TA

 

[LeBlatt]

"the only way I know of is to place it in the startup folder"

There would be another way if using win9x : open c:\windows\win.ini and add a command (full path) after run= in the [windows] section. several commands can be separated by ; chars (you call it semicolon i think). This was the equivalent of startup folder in win 3.x and can be used to confuse ppl who didnt use a computer in the middle ages

In the case of tontod, it would be something like
[windows]
run="c:\program files\dnet\dnetc.exe -quiet"

but running as a service is best if the computer has a login screen as a service will start even with no user logged.

 

[wrickard]

In the registry under:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run
Create a new string entry:
pathtodnetc\dnetc.exe -quiet
This works on win98 and NT.
It isn't a service but there is no interface.

 

[RaySun2Be]

I would suggest running it as a service, DNETC -INSTALL, and then DNETC - SVCSTART to start the client. It runs hidden, and in WIN9x doesn't appear in the task list, it will start on re-boot even if the user doesn't log on.

If you want to check on the client, turn logging on and just check the log file occasionally, or use a proxy server for the work herd, and check the proxys logs (or run a stats proggy that will report output by IP addy).

Many of us have work herds (with permission of course) that need to run hidden from users. I create a subfolder in the C:\Windows\System folder that looks like another system folder, then I install the client as a service, turn logging on, and use a proxy server along with a stats proggy that reports output by IP address. The proxy server has logs that can be pulled into Excel that you can use too.

As always, make sure you have permission to install the client.

 

[fdiskboy]

What if I have a nosy user and I want to turn dnet off when the task manager is run....

I know I've seen this posted --an ini entry, but I can't find that post (even searched!)

 

[kranky]

In the ini file, under the [triggers] section, put this line:
pause-watch-plist=taskman.exe

 

[fdiskboy]

Thanks, kranky, you're my hero!

 

[marketsons1985]

If it's installed as a service, it won't show up even in the start menu then?

 

[phule]

marketsons1985:

No, it will not show up in the start menu because items in the start menu are not services. They're the same as you double clicking on an icon...nothing special.

The start menu is a glorified hack in order to start programs (imho).

The cow icon will not be visable in the taskbar either with dnetc installed as a service.

 

[marketsons1985]

One more question, how do i turn logging on? and how do i view the log file?

 

[Nohr]

In dnetc.ini add the following:

[logging]
log-file=dnet.log
log-file-type="no limit"

Then you could just read dnet.log in the directory you have the client installed in with any text editor.

 

[phule]

marketsons1985:
I'm not trying to be a jerk or anything, but have you tried looking at the client config options?
A lot of time and effort has gone into providing instructions right in the client config. Sure there's not a wiz-bang "it reads my thoughts" help system, but each menu option has text associated with it.

The very fact that the 4th of 4 items in the intial config screen says "Logging Options" perplexes me as to why you asked the question.

So, it's a bit of a rant, but not entirely. I've work with dnet a bit in the past to try and cleanup and enhance both the FAQ and the client. I think dnet needs to get as much input as possible on users habits of client usage.

lastly, I'd invite every novice to not go off and yank apart the INI file. Use the client config screens, that's what they're there for.