DNA of Cocoa tree mapped. Chocolate is saved!

[techs]

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/15/b...p=1&adxnnlx=1284580823-dwa2H0M3yEVEipG2IZb1YQ

Rival Candy Projects Both Parse Cocoa’s DNA

Scientists say they have determined the complete DNA sequence of the tree that produces cocoa beans, an accomplishment that is expected to vastly accelerate efforts to assure a stable supply of chocolate and to make it better-tasting and healthier.

But there are two separate groups vying for credit in what some might consider the research arm of a chocolate factory war.

The candy maker Mars is expected to announce on Wednesday that a project it financed has essentially completed the raw sequence of the genome of the cacao tree, and that it would make the data freely available to researchers.

The announcement upstages a consortium involving French government laboratories and Pennsylvania State University that is backed in part by a competitor of Mars, Hershey. This group says it has also completed the sequence, but cannot discuss it until its paper analyzing the genome is published in a scientific journal.




Chocolate lives!

 

[sygyzy]

This is truly great news.

 

[The Boston Dangler]

"and to make it better-tasting and healthier."

just like you ruined all kinds of fruits and veggies? no thanks. how about you leave my fucking chocolate alone!

 

[mb]

"and to make it better-tasting and healthier."

just like you ruined all kinds of fruits and veggies? no thanks. how about you leave my fucking chocolate alone!

¿Que?

 

[silverpig]

Cacao

 

[darkxshade]

awesome, so what's next? Cannabis?

 

[Eli]

"and to make it better-tasting and healthier."

just like you ruined all kinds of fruits and veggies? no thanks. how about you leave my fucking chocolate alone!

I thought the same thing. I like the idea, but this will not end well for chocolate.

 

[KeithTalent]

I could do without it and it would probably lead to thinner women, which would be a nice benefit.

KT

 

[The Boston Dangler]

¿Que?

i don't currently have any examples to cut up and photo, so you'll have to take my word on this.

the produce available in most supermarkets is genetically engineered, rather than traditional animal/plant husbandry that man has been doing since the dawn of time. they (agriculture companies) do this to control many variables and inefficiencies. whether it's growing conditions, pest or fungus resistance, the time to ripen, durability, et cetera, they claim improvements for the customer but they are actually making the food more profitable at every step of the way. the price has gone up, btw.

as an example, take a lemon from the pile in the supermarket (it will be GM unless marked as "heirloom" even if it says "organic"). it will probably be the best looking lemon you've ever seen: evenly colored, not many spots or dings, and shiny. cut it in half and you'll find a peel nearly 1/2 an inch thick, very little juice and little taste. if a recipe calls for the juice of 1 lemon, i use at least 1 and a half, just to compensate for the quality. oh, the shine comes from wax - don't use that peel for anything!

another example is tomatoes. they look brilliant, but cut them up and the truth is revealed. the meat of the tomato has shriveled away to nothingness and the huge amount of orange seedy slime is supposed to be much thicker consistency. there is almost no flavor to speak of.

 

[sdifox]

I don't think I like the way this is going.

Hersey already tried to change the definition of chocolate...

 

[Eli]

i don't currently have any examples to cut up and photo, so you'll have to take my word on this.

the produce available in most supermarkets is genetically engineered, rather than traditional animal/plant husbandry that man has been doing since the dawn of time. they (agriculture companies) do this to control many variables and inefficiencies. whether it's growing conditions, pest or fungus resistance, the time to ripen, durability, et cetera, they claim improvements for the customer but they are actually making the food more profitable at every step of the way. the price has gone up, btw.

as an example, take a lemon from the pile in the supermarket (it will be GM unless marked as "heirloom" even if it says "organic"). it will probably be the best looking lemon you've ever seen: evenly colored, not many spots or dings, and shiny. cut it in half and you'll find a peel nearly 1/2 an inch thick, very little juice and little taste. if a recipe calls for the juice of 1 lemon, i use at least 1 and a half, just to compensate for the quality. oh, the shine comes from wax - don't use that peel for anything!

another example is tomatoes. they look brilliant, but cut them up and the truth is revealed. the meat of the tomato has shriveled away to nothingness and the huge amount of orange seedy slime is supposed to be much thicker consistency. there is almost no flavor to speak of.

Indeed. The main failures of the GMO movement are taste and nutritional value.

 

[Slacker]

This is fabulous news, now we can work on implementing Ron White's plan to eliminate the need for birth control.

 

[yhelothar]

i don't currently have any examples to cut up and photo, so you'll have to take my word on this.

the produce available in most supermarkets is genetically engineered, rather than traditional animal/plant husbandry that man has been doing since the dawn of time. they (agriculture companies) do this to control many variables and inefficiencies. whether it's growing conditions, pest or fungus resistance, the time to ripen, durability, et cetera, they claim improvements for the customer but they are actually making the food more profitable at every step of the way. the price has gone up, btw.

as an example, take a lemon from the pile in the supermarket (it will be GM unless marked as "heirloom" even if it says "organic"). it will probably be the best looking lemon you've ever seen: evenly colored, not many spots or dings, and shiny. cut it in half and you'll find a peel nearly 1/2 an inch thick, very little juice and little taste. if a recipe calls for the juice of 1 lemon, i use at least 1 and a half, just to compensate for the quality. oh, the shine comes from wax - don't use that peel for anything!

another example is tomatoes. they look brilliant, but cut them up and the truth is revealed. the meat of the tomato has shriveled away to nothingness and the huge amount of orange seedy slime is supposed to be much thicker consistency. there is almost no flavor to speak of.

LOL what a tool. There has been plenty of taste tests done just to verify this bullshit that organic bandwagon jumpers love to claim.

 

[The Boston Dangler]

LOL what a tool. There has been plenty of taste tests done just to verify this bullshit that organic bandwagon jumpers love to claim.

i verify these findings with a taste test every time i eat one of the fucking things. that makes me a tool? ok.

by the way, try proofing your sentence, and check the definition of "organic" while you're at it. enjoy your taco bell, tool.

 

[Wag]

When they figure out how to splice a peanut with the cocoa plant that's half the battle right there...

 

[yhelothar]

i verify these findings with a taste test every time i eat one of the fucking things. that makes me a tool? ok.

by the way, try proofing your sentence, and check the definition of "organic" while you're at it. enjoy your taco bell, tool.

Enjoy your paying your premiums for your placebo.

 

[The Boston Dangler]

Enjoy your paying your premiums for your placebo.

lemons

stop&shop: 4/$3 (75c each)

trader joe's: 19c each

 

[Ken g6]

the produce available in most supermarkets is genetically engineered, rather than traditional animal/plant husbandry that man has been doing since the dawn of time.

There are three methods for genetic engineering:

1. That traditional animal/plant husbandry does a lot of genetic engineering. Think wolves to, say, [thread=2105869]corgis[/thread]; or compare wild onions to their domestic counterparts.
2. You can read the genes of a given plant, and use that to select which plants to breed or clone. (Clone as in take a cutting.) That's smarter plant husbandry.
3. You're probably thinking of splicing genes from a peanut, or a jellyfish , or a rat into a lemon.

But they're all genetic engineering to one degree or another.

oh, the shine comes from wax - don't use that peel for anything!

That's not GM, that's packaging. That's as old as commerce, anyway.

another example is tomatoes. they look brilliant, but cut them up and the truth is revealed. the meat of the tomato has shriveled away to nothingness and the huge amount of orange seedy slime is supposed to be much thicker consistency. there is almost no flavor to speak of.

That's probably because they have to pick them too early in order to transport them halfway around the world.

 

[The Boston Dangler]

There are three methods for genetic engineering:

1. That traditional animal/plant husbandry does a lot of genetic engineering. Think wolves to, say, [thread=2105869]corgis[/thread]; or compare wild onions to their domestic counterparts.
2. You can read the genes of a given plant, and use that to select which plants to breed or clone. (Clone as in take a cutting.) That's smarter plant husbandry.
3. You're probably thinking of splicing genes from a peanut, or a jellyfish , or a rat into a lemon.

But they're all genetic engineering to one degree or another.

very true. remember the "banana as proof of god's existence" debacle?

 

[bigdog1218]

LOL what a tool. There has been plenty of taste tests done just to verify this bullshit that organic bandwagon jumpers love to claim.

Maybe there isn't that much difference between organic and non-organic in a store, but the quality of fruits/vegetables in supermarkets is crap. Just grow your own garden and realize how much better tasting fresh naturally grown food is.