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dmcowen674

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I've been getting a lot of mail like this lately both in E-mail form and regular Postal Mail. I don't mind but I didn't sign up or anything.
Could be the close eye being kept on me huh? ;)


From: xxxx@mail.house.gov
To: dmcowen
Sublect: On behalf of Congressman Rick Boucher -- Fair Use Update
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Knowing that you share my commitment to ensuring that technological innovation, competition, and fair use are not undermined by broad interpretations of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA), I am passing along an article from the Washington Post which illuminates the need to amend the DMCA.

The article specifically points out situations in which the DMCA is being used to stifle competition and undermine technology innovation. Companies are claiming that it is a violation of the DMCA to sell universal garage door openers or substitute printer cartridges. The DMCA was never intended for such purposes.

Passage of the Digital Media Consumers' Rights Act, H.R. 107, which I authored, would prevent companies from misusing the DMCA in order to strangle competitors and discourage innovation by amending the DMCA to allow circumvention of technological protections for fair use purposes. Furthermore, H.R. 107 would ensure that users would be able to continue to make broad non-infringing uses of copyrighted works.

I hope that you will find this information helpful, and I will continue to keep you posted on my efforts to reign in the DMCA.

With kind regards and best wishes, I remain
Sincerely,
Rick Boucher
Member of Congress

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A28280-2003Nov11.html?referrer=emailarticlepg
Caught by the Act
Digital Copyright Law Ensnaring Businesses, Individuals Over Fair Use
By Frank Ahrens
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, November 12, 2003; Page E01
Ed Swartz, a self-described "old guy," is a canny North Carolinian who's been in heavy manufacturing since Eisenhower was president. Alloys for the auto industry, mostly. Come the late '80s, he needed something for his youngest son to run, so they jumped into the ground floor of a business few think about until the copier malfunctions: remanufacturing laser printer toner cartridges. His company, Static Control Components Inc., makes the replacement gears, springs and drums that go inside the cartridges when they break down. Pretty straightforward.

Until last winter, that is, when his company found itself in the most unlikely of positions -- on the same side of the courtroom as unauthorized Internet song-sharing sites, such as Kazaa, Grokster and Morpheus.

What links a southern office-supply manufacturer and a global next-generation Internet technology? A wafer-thin computer chip not much larger than a fingernail and a law unfamiliar to most: the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA).

Passed in 1998, the act is designed to protect copyrighted works in an age when the material easily can be illegally copied and distributed over the Internet. The music industry uses the DMCA to sue Internet song-swappers it maintains are violating copyright law. But another provision of the law -- Section 1201 -- expressly prohibits individuals from circumventing technological measures erected by copyright holders to protect their works.

Ever since, businesses that make products as diverse as voting machines, electronic pets and garage-door openers have turned to the law to protect their digital turf. Lexmark International Inc., one of the world's largest printer companies, joined the parade last December when it cited the law to sue Static Control.

Lexmark alleged that the company illegally copied some of the code used by computer chips in Lexmark cartridges to enable the remanufactured cartridges to work. The chips monitor the level of toner and tell users when it is running low. More important, they make the cartridges compatible with the printer -- if the two do not execute an electronic "secret handshake" activated by the chip, the copier will not work.

By figuring out how to emulate that handshake, Static Control circumvented Lexmark's ability to protect its copyrighted works, Lexmark's attorneys argued. In February, Lexmark won an injunction that stopped Static Control from making its chips.

Static Control countered that it copied only 56 bytes of code in the Lexmark chip, which it should be allowed to do under the fair-use provisions of copyright law. Static Control said many industries do the same when they manufacture products that need to be compatible with other systems -- the "aftermarket" that makes wiper blades for cars, video-game cartridges for game consoles and so on.

Static Control asked the U.S. Copyright Office for an exception to the DMCA that would help clear the way for it to make chips that would be compatible with Lexmark printers. The Copyright Office denied the exception in a ruling issued Oct. 27, saying that existing exceptions in the law may cover the issue. Both Static Control and Lexmark quickly claimed victory.

"It is inconceivable to us how anyone could consider this ruling a victory for Static Control," Vincent J. Cole, a Lexmark vice president, said in a prepared statement. The company has declined to comment further on the case.

American University copyright law professor Peter A. Jaszi, who led a law professors' amicus brief siding with Static Control, called the Copyright Office's ruling "disappointing" but said the decision did give the company some ammunition when it goes to court.

"I think the Static Control lawyers are in a position to make a good argument" that their product should be permitted under the DMCA, Jaszi said.

Static Control is appealing the injunction in Cincinnati's U.S. Court of Appeals for the 6th Circuit; the company cannot manufacture Lexmark-compatible cartridges unless the injunction is lifted. A ruling is expected within six months. Static Control has also filed a $100 million antitrust lawsuit against Lexmark in North Carolina.

"We would be very happy for the [appeals court] to use what the Copyright Office said as guidance for a decision," Swartz said.

Should his company lose in court, Swartz envisions a world of monopolies that would make turn-of-the-century Standard Oil blush. He predicts deals between automakers and tiremakers, for instance, that would put copyright-protected chips in tires to prevent a car from starting unless it was fitted with automaker-approved tires. Imagine, for instance, if Toyotas would run only on Goodyear tires, he said. What would become of Michelin, Cooper, Pirelli and other tiremakers?

"I'll be 68 in December. I had open-heart surgery in November 2001. I see this as my legacy. Somebody had to fight them," Swartz said. "If we rolled over and played dead and they had won, it would have set a precedent for lots of other people to pull the same baloney."

Baloney or not, other companies have attempted to protect their business by using the DMCA.
Voting-machine maker Diebold Election Systems is citing the DMCA regarding a number of students and activists who have posted the company's internal documents on the Internet, detailing bugs in the machine software. The company has sent cease-and-desist letters, saying the activists are violating copyright by spreading Diebold's code on the Internet.

Earlier this year, Chamberlain Group Inc., which makes garage-door openers, invoked the DMCA against rival Skylink Technologies Inc., which made an opener that was chosen over Chamberlain's clicker by several garage-door makers. Skylink said it legally reverse-engineered the code used by the garage-door receivers to open the door. Chamberlain's opener works only when specific software codes are transmitted to the door. Skylink's clicker circumvents these, which Chamberlain said violates the DMCA. The case is pending in an Illinois federal court.

Last year, Sony Corp. threatened action against a hobbyist who cracked some encryption in the company's electronic pet dog, the Aibo. That allowed him to write and post software on the Internet enabling Aibo owners to customize their pets to recognize their masters' voices. Although the hobbyist did not reveal the encryption codes, Sony pressed forward, relenting only after public outcry.

"A lot of people have turned this into a debate on competition or about how it's somehow doing harm to the average user," said Emery Simon, a lawyer with the Business Software Alliance, a trade group promoting digital copyright protection. Members include Microsoft Corp., Apple Computer Inc. and IBM. "It's not about those things for us. For us, it's about somebody who's stealing our stuff."

Concerns about the DMCA creating monopolies are overheated, he said. Section "1201 did nothing to change, dilute or diminish antitrust law," he said. "Intellectual property laws have always co-existed with competition laws."

Arguing for the other side, Jaszi said the Static Control case and others like it illustrate the larger problems with the DMCA.

"We've got here a law that runs like a bulldozer over this rather delicate balance and structure of rights and limitations on copyright that it took us 200-odd years to build up," he said. At the same time, he said, "I don't think a conscientious lawyer with a business client facing this kind of situation can do anything other than file a DMCA claim."

Verizon Communications Inc. is a more traditional foe of the DMCA. It is lobbying Congress to overhaul the act based on the recent record-industry lawsuits, saying the law's powers are too broad. Under another section of the DMCA, Internet service providers such as Verizon can be subpoenaed to turn over the names and addresses of customers who copyright holders, such as the music industry, believe are violating copyright by illegally downloading songs, for instance.

Rep. Rick Boucher (D-Va.) introduced a bill at the beginning of the current session focusing on rewriting Section 1201. His bill would allow consumers to circumvent a work's technological copyright protections for fair use. The bill, pending in the Energy and Commerce Committee, would also decriminalize the manufacture of such circumvention technology. Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D-Calif.) introduced a similar bill, now in the Judiciary Committee, which Boucher also sits on.

"As an increasing number of copyright works are wrapped in technological protection measures, it is likely that the DMCA's anti-circumvention provisions will be applied in further unforeseen contexts, hindering the legitimate activities of innovators, researchers, the press, and the public at large," writes the Electronic Frontier Foundation, which represents some defendants of the record-industry lawsuits and supports Boucher's bill.

Boucher expects no action on his bill before the end of the year but plans hearing and markup early next year, he said.
"I won't predict the date," Boucher said, "but eventually, we will change the DMCA."




 

dmcowen674

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11-26-2003 FatWallet To Sue Best Buy Over DMCA Threat

FatWallet, Inc. filed a lawsuit yesterday in the United States District Court for the Northern District of Illinois seeking a declaration that these demands constitute an abuse of the DMCA and violate the First Amendment rights of both FatWallet and its users.

?The posting on a web site of sales price information is not the proper subject of a subpoena or a takedown notice under the DMCA. Hopefully, by filing this lawsuit, FatWallet will be able to put an end to this repeated misuse of the DMCA?s special subpoena and notice provisions and ensure that its First Amendment rights, and the First Amendment rights of its users, are fully protected,? said Rachel Matteo-Boehm, an attorney with Steinhart & Falconer LLP, one of the law firms representing FatWallet in the suit.

?Our users should be able to freely post and discuss factual information, like sales prices, without being sued or accused of copyright infringement, and we hope that by filing this lawsuit, we will be protecting these important consumer rights,? said Tim Storm, FatWallet?s founder and President.
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Good luck and go get em Tim!

Have not seen one post anywhere of any person supporting the Corporations on this. The DMCA, Politicians and Corp Execs are all responsible. It is high time they feel the wrath of an angry Citizenry finally waking up to having their rights and the U.S. Constitution ripped to threads.


 

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I'm glad that FatWallet.com is stepping up to the plate on this one. You don't seem to see that sort of action around here @ AT. Although, I noticed most of the BF threads in "hot deals" haven't been locked. I guess that counts for something?
 

Bowfinger

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Good for FatWallet. We need more people to stand up to that abomination they call the DMCA.

By the way, there is an article on The Register saying the MPAA and RIAA are seeking a permanent exemtion from antitrust litigation. Their good buddy Orin Hatch slipped it into his "EnFORCE Act, or the Enhancing Federal Obscenity Reporting and Copyright Enforcement Act of 2003". Good to see the entertainment industry is still profitable enough to buy senators when they need them.

Here's the link: MPAA, RIAA seek permanent antitrust exemption
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Good for FatWallet. We need more people to stand up to that abomination they call the DMCA.

By the way, there is an article on The Register saying the MPAA and RIAA are seeking a permanent exemtion from antitrust litigation. Their good buddy Orin Hatch slipped it into his "EnFORCE Act, or the Enhancing Federal Obscenity Reporting and Copyright Enforcement Act of 2003". Good to see the entertainment industry is still profitable enough to buy senators when they need them.

Here's the link: MPAA, RIAA seek permanent antitrust exemption

Slowly but surely more people are waking up to the insaneness of the DMCA especially after the Garage Door Opener and Ink Cartridge cases. Those cases made the dumba$$ politicians even realize what a POS legislation they allowed to be passed.

Those that are looking to be re-elected including Judges are starting to pay attention to the issue which appears to be finally starting to turn the tide against this Law that deservedly makes the U.S. not only look like A$$es but stifles innovation, progress and the coveted "Consumerism" the AT Expert Economic pundits in here love so much that drives the new "Cheap" low wage America.

I posted the News about the MPAA/RIAA seeking Government Authority and Exemption from AntiTrust in the RIAA/MPAA thread, I just didn't change the thread Title to reflect it, I will now.

I am glad to see after nearly a year of posting on the subject that more people are realizing the impact of both the extremely bad Laws and the Organizations taking advantage of them are doing to this Country. I have not been posting in vain. ---- Dave



 

dmcowen674

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Attention, Alert!!!! A member in Off Topic posted this:

Time to Boycott UbiSoft Thread in Off Topic

UbiSoft a Game Manufacturer has gone beyond invasive Copy Protection further than what Intuit Turbo Tax did last year.

They place software on your machine that disables other software on your Computer from being able to run Virtula CD-ROM Drives. This is essentially a Hack of your computer on their part.

12-10-2003 UbiSoft Violates Consumer Rights, installs code on your Computer that forces the removal of other software

Ubisoft released the promised Rainbow Six 3 : Raven Shield 1.5 patch yesterday, but they failed to mention their new copy protection scheme.

It turns out that Ubisoft implented code into the RVS 1.5 patch which checks PCs for ANY clone or virtual drive programs and then fails to launch the game if such devices or programs are found. What this has in turn done is disabled thousands of consumers who use programs like Daemon Tools, CloneCD or Alcohol 120% from playing their Ubisoft games even if they have their own physical cds in an actual drive.

Ubisoft management claims that they're covered under their EULA but the EULA does not state once that you are not allowed to have virtual drives on your system during play. It only says that you are not allowed to make back up copies.

Irregardless of what the virtual drives or virtual clone programs on your system are for, you will not be able to play Raven Shield with patch 1.5 unless you remove them completely off your system. Again, you can't even play when you have the retail cds in a drive unless those programs / virtual drives are removed. This is a violation of consumer rights - those programs are used for perfectly legal reasons especially at LAN cafes to avoid disc loss.

I am a victim of this patch and I refuse to remove my virtual drives - I do not do anything illegal with them whatsoever. Share your comments please.
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He is a victim. Everyone is now a victim in all of this insanity.
 

dmcowen674

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Technology and Johanssen wins. Norway Programmer cleared of DVD charges again:

12-22-2003 Norwegian Freed in DVD Film Piracy Case

An Oslo appeal court cleared a 20-year-old Norwegian of DVD piracy charges on Monday, dismaying Hollywood studios who said it would spur hackers blamed for leeching billions of dollars from the movie industry worldwide.

OK TO COPY

The court also ruled that it was more reasonable to make a personal copy of a DVD than a book under copyright laws, for instance, because a scratch could make a DVD unusable.

Johansen's lawyer said he felt the ruling would give a green light to consumers to copy music compact discs as well as DVDs. "This ruling applies only in Norway, but the arguments used in this trial can also be used abroad,"
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dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Technology and Johanssen wins. Norway Programmer cleared of DVD charges again:

12-22-2003 Norwegian Freed in DVD Film Piracy Case
[ ... ]
More good news on the DMCA front. Nice to see we seem to be taking back our IP rights, one ruling at a time.

It's not about IP rights at all. It's about the change of Business Model to keep up and progress with Technology.


 

dmcowen674

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Publisher largely responsible for getting most of the "Communications Decency Act" thrown out at the Supreme Court ends Publication:

[Disclaimer: I've worked on some CyberWire Dispatch articles with Brock in
the past. It had a good run. --Declan]

---

From: "Meeks, Brock (MSNBCi)" <Brock.Meeks@MSNBC.COM>
To: declan@well.com
Subject: CWD--Farewell Tour
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 13:09:54 -0800


Copyright © 2003 // CyberWire Dispatch // December 31

Jacking in from ?Fond Farewell? Port:

WASHINGTON­New York?s Times Square today looks and feels like the war
ravaged capital of some third world country after a coup d'&eacute;tat; the FBI is
telling local cops to be leery of any hinky acting, middle-eastern looking
males that happen to be carry around dog-eared almanacs (no, I?m not making
this stuff up); the U.S. Justice Department, with Congress acting as
unindicted co-conspirators, have pencil whipped the Bill of Rights so as to
make it unrecognizable to the Founding Fathers; Paris Hilton?s sex tape is
all over the Internet and CyberWire Dispatch is closing the doors on its
publication.

Thank God for Paris, at least some sanity remains out there.

Today?s world seems even darker and more in need of the kind of biting,
crystal commentary that CWD provided than when the publication first sprang
life, back before the Web was born, when ?browser? was a pejorative term
used by Real Estate agents and anxious retail store owners.

But CWD has been on ?life support? for far too many years now and it?s time
to make a decision to revive it or mercifully pull the plug and let it die
an honorable death, slipping into the history and archive of the cyberworld
with its legacy intact.

Gloves please? let?s pull the plug on this beast.

I?ll retain the rights to the CyberWire Dispatch name and hold on to the
cyberwire.com, if for nothing else than to keep Marty Rimm from buying the
domain and turning it into a how-to clearinghouse for would be pornographers?

>From There and Back Again
=====================

We?ve had a good run, no, a great run. CWD, unfunded and erratically
published (and erratically edited for that matter), won top journalism
awards with its unflinching commentary and investigative stories. We
uncovered hoaxes, stopped miscreants from foisting their schemes users of
the web and from time to time made the administration sweat.

All of that was first and foremost made possible by you, the reader. Many
CWD readers became sources, friends, contributors and ad hoc editors.

CyberWire Dispatch even owes its name to its readers. The publication was
nameless until it broke a story way-back-when about an internal
cost/benefit analysis the White House had done on the impact of what was
then called the ?digital telephony bill.?

The FBI and administration kept insisting that no such analysis had been
done but CWD obtained that analysis and wrote an exclusive story about
it. What a shock, then, to find the next day that the great grey Lady (the
New York Times) had come out with an article that was nearly identical to
CWD?s, as if they had gotten the scoop on their own.

This episode didn?t escape CWD?s sharp eyed readers and it was suggested
that if CWD, still nameless at the time, were given a name, it would be
much harder to steal from. I believe Kevin Kelly was the first one to
actually make that suggestion and that day the name CyberWire Dispatch was
born.

It wasn?t long after that Mitch Kapor paid CWD one of the highest
compliments it ever received by proclaiming that by its publication on the
web it had created one of the ?first brands? in cyberspace.

No one ever stole from CWD again and indeed, many mainstream publications
began to officially reference our stories and credit our scoops.

The Home Team
============

There was no greater incubator for CWD than the WELL. It was CWD?s ?home
town? and the people that populated the WELL were its judge, jury,
researchers, critics and editors. I cherish each and everyone there that
took the time to comment, either negative or positive. Each helped shape
CWD in ways they?ll never fully know.

Eric Theise, a San Francisco visual artist, who maintains Liberty Hill
Cyberwerks (<http://www.cyberwerks.com/>[url]www.cyberwerks.com),[/url] receives my
undying gratitude for selflessly hosting CyberWire Dispatch (the web?s
ugliest homepage) all these many years. Although
<http://www.cyberwire.com/>www.cyberwire.com is alive, it?s essentially a
mirror of the space Eric provided.

Like the winner of an academy award, I feel the uncontrollable urge to
thank everyone I?ve ever known. But for once I?ll show some restraint and
not do that. I would inevitably forget to mention someone that had a major
impact on CWD?s success and who needs that kind of negative karma floating
around.

It?s been a privilege to be a pioneer in online journalism and watch CWD
carve out its place in history. And it?s also a great pleasure to have CWD
retire undefeated in challenges before the Supreme Court, owing to our 1-0
record as a plaintiff in the landmark Reno v. ACLU case that struck down
(the majority of) the Communications Decency Act.

Thanks one and all, friend and foe alike, it?s been a hell of a ride.

And so, finally, really, I?m not kidding?

Meeks out?



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dmcowen674

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This is the worse Nitemare that the MPAA (Hollywood) Execs were hoping to stop getting produced by getting the State DMCA Laws passed since they weren't successful in getting the FBI Powers right away from Congress they sought. They want to stop the progress of man and technology. We have to tahnk the Philips Corporation for not caving to the Hollywood Execs. I've found it fascinating to see that the one Giant Company in Philips fighting against the other giant Companies.

1-8-2004 Hand-Held Device for DVD Movies Raises Legal Issues

PARIS -- Hollywood's bid to control how its movies are copied, stored and played is being tested by an unlikely source: a former French oil engineer in an out-of-the-way Paris suburb, Wednesday's Wall Street Journal reported.

Henri Crohas's company, Archos SA, makes a small hand-held device, like a bulky Palm Pilot, that can record and then play back scores of movies, TV shows and digital photos on its color screen or a TV set. The gadget -- which in effect does to movies what Apple Computer Inc.'s iPod does to music -- already has sold 100,000 units world-wide during the past six months, beating the big consumer electronics makers to the U.S. market.

Archos's device, which costs about $500 to $900 depending on the model, ignores an anticopying code found on a majority of prerecorded DVDs. That means consumers can plug the Archos device into a DVD player and transfer a movie to it. Users also can transfer recorded TV programs and digital music files to the Archos device. The Archos uses a video compression standard called MPEG-4 to cram as many as 320 hours of video at near-DVD quality onto its hard drive, the company says -- the equivalent of 160 two-hour movies.

A second kind of anticopying protection thwarts users from recording a playable copy of a DVD movie onto the hard-drive of a personal computer and then onto the Archos. But videos can be transferred from the Archos to a PC, where they could be burned onto a DVD or sent over the Internet, though that would likely violate copyright laws.

The gadgets alone aren't likely to spawn a Napster-style boom in online film piracy. Already, scofflaws with a PC equipped with a DVD player and special software can rip off films and share them over the Internet. And the process is slow: It takes as long to copy a DVD movie to the Archos device as it does to watch the movie. Still, Mr. Crohas and his 150-employee team at Archos ( pronounced AR kos) present a fresh headache for Hollywood because they show how the industry's campaign to keep control of its films could be challenged by small players.
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Everyone is a Scofflaw except the Hollywood Execs.
 

Zebo

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Dave can you explain to me how this is useful? I mean 500-900$ for what? I have an Ipod for music which GTSVIPER was kind enough to burn all my cd's on to.. but I buy all my movies because all blockbusters seems scratched. Plus whats the watching medium. A little lcd on the unit? Seems way to expensive.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: Zebo
Dave can you explain to me how this is useful? I mean 500-900$ for what? I have an Ipod for music which GTSVIPER was kind enough to burn all my cd's on to.. but I buy all my movies because all blockbusters seems scratched. Plus whats the watching medium. A little lcd on the unit? Seems way to expensive.

You can send the Movies from the Hand-held to your PC, burn a DVD and watch on your 60" Big Screen.
Of course this violates the almighty DMCA.


 

Zebo

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How do you get it to your handheld?

People now are terrified to death now to download even little songs. A whole movie and I'm sure the next day you'd have a cease and desist order delivered to your house.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: Zebo
How do you get it to your handheld?

People now are terrified to death now to download even little songs. A whole movie and I'm sure the next day you'd have a cease and desist order delivered to your house.

"How do you get it to your handheld?"

Using DVD Jon's program to copy "your own personal" DVD that you purchased. You see Hollywood tried to make doing anything other than they mandate with a product you buy as illegal.

"People now are terrified to death now to download even little songs." That's in the U.S. because the RIAA put the Fear of God into the letters MP3 and it worked.

We will just go back to chiseling rocks to make a wheel.
 

dmcowen674

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HP users cry foul at looming death of the Open PC

From: "Steelhead" <bill@ries-knight.net>
To: "Declan@Well.Com" <declan@well.com>
Subject: HP users cry foul at death of the open PC
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 10:34:48 -0800
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I wondered how long folks could keep quiet.

At her Keynote address for the CES conference recently, Carly Fiorina
declared that all HP systems would be designed to protect DRM.

As HP is a major supplier of systems to corporations, I can see this could
be a selling point. The notion, however, to make all consumer systems
compliant is a step beyond. In the past business platforms and
"SOHO/personal user" systems had different mainboards, but almost everythin
else is shared and from Industry Standard manufactrers.

Will they require CD/DVD burners follow a new DRM standard? and how long
until there is a software fix? and will it cripple use of old stuff?

The dialog is beginning. Should we all go quietly into the showers?

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/35/34848.html

HP users cry foul at death of the open PC
By Ashlee Vance in Chicago
Posted: 13/01/2004 at 17:41 GMT
Get The Reg wherever you are, with The Mobile Register


Letters re: HP declares war on sharing culture

Based on early feedback, it seems that HP confused its corporate needs with
customer needs when announcing its commitment to DRM last week at the CES
conference. A boycott of HP's consumer products is the last thing the
company's struggling PC business needs, but that is exactly what some
readers are discussing. We'll see if HP's decision to end the open PC pays
off in the long run.

While we received countless letters, we can only print some of the best. And
here they are.

I guess Carly decided that the 60 plus million PC owners in the USA who use
file sharing applications (and the many hundreds of millions worldwide) must
not be part of HP's core PC market. I wonder where she will find 60+ million
PC buyers in the USA who don't believe they need to try something before
they buy it.
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I wonder how badly will there DRM be. I bet it will be something as lame as not associating .mp3 with a mp3 player.
 

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674

"People now are terrified to death now to download even little songs." That's in the U.S. because the RIAA put the Fear of God into the letters MP3 and it worked.

Good. People need to stop stealing. You champion the system when a CEO who committed fraud gets thrown in jail, but you seem to be okay with people stealing other things.

How would you feel if someone broke into your house and stole all your DSL modems that you were going to sell? Would you just shrug it off and say that it was okay because they needed money or something. No, you'd probably call the cops.

Stealing is stealing. And if you steal, you should get punished.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: dirtboy
Originally posted by: dmcowen674

"People now are terrified to death now to download even little songs." That's in the U.S. because the RIAA put the Fear of God into the letters MP3 and it worked.

Good. People need to stop stealing. You champion the system when a CEO who committed fraud gets thrown in jail, but you seem to be okay with people stealing other things.

How would you feel if someone broke into your house and stole all your DSL modems that you were going to sell? Would you just shrug it off and say that it was okay because they needed money or something. No, you'd probably call the cops.

Stealing is stealing. And if you steal, you should get punished.

None of your responses hold any water, try a little research first. MP3 is a technology and the RIAA made that Technology a crime. You can't take your iTunes legally downloaded song and download it into your LEGAL MP3 player because that would require circumventing DRM. NO one has promoted stealing, the RIAA is anti-Technology and that is wrong and so are you inclusing your hate of Distributed Computing which is not a personal interest as you put it, it is a technology that is in all of mankind's interest, BIG Difference.


 

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Originally posted by: dirtboy
Good. People need to stop stealing. You champion the system when a CEO who committed fraud gets thrown in jail, but you seem to be okay with people stealing other things.

How would you feel if someone broke into your house and stole all your DSL modems that you were going to sell? Would you just shrug it off and say that it was okay because they needed money or something. No, you'd probably call the cops.

Stealing is stealing. And if you steal, you should get punished.
Hopefully, people are realizing that copyright infringement (not stealing, despite what the RIAA wants you to believe) is wrong. However, the RIAA seems to be rather successful in its attempts to brainwash everyone into believing that certain music compression technology that lacks privacy-invasive DRM (notably MP3) is illegal - while that is far from the truth.

Oh, and if someone steals something from me, I'd call the police, rather than grabbing a gun and running after them (vigilante "justice"). Unfortunately, the RIAA has decided that they are above the law, and that they shouldn't have to go through the courts to get the information that they need to sue these people who are committing copyright infringement. When a judge ruled that the RIAA should have to obey the law like every other corporation and individual, and get whatever it needs to file these lawsuits through the courts (where the judicial system can monitor the RIAA to make sure that they're not getting out of line), the RIAA pitched a fit.

Additionally, if I had repeated problems with people breaking in and stealing my stuff, I'd probably consider moving to another neighborhood, instead of trying to get Congress to pass legislation to force everyone else in the whole world to install federally-mandated security cameras in their houses, so I could "check up" now and then to make sure that none of my stuff showed up in their dwelling places without my permission.
 

dmcowen674

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What is SB213/HB457 and SB3101?
SB213/HB457 was the Tennessee version of the "Super-DMCA" bill, which was proposed in the Tennessee General Assembly in the 2003 with the backing of the Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA). Versions of the bill had already been past in eight states, disguised as a simple update of existing cable theft legislation. In truth, this legislation has negatively impacted citizens' freedom of speech, their access to secure communications, and their use of many networking technologies. It gives Internet service providers (ISP's) unprecedented control over what types of devices and software citizens can use while connected to the Internet

Why should it matter to me?
Do you have more than one computer? Do you use Linux? Do you use any kind of Internet security hardware or software (called a "firewall"), or does your company use networking equipment to share Internet access using network address translation (NAT), or allow employees to connect from home using a virtual private network (VPN)? Do you cryptographically sign or encrypt your email? SDMCA-based legislation threatens your access to all of these. And if you don't understand some of these terms, you may already be using these technologies and simply be unaware of it. That's unimportant, though, because you can still go to jail for it.