DivX or SVCD?

[yellowperil]

DivX supports higher resolutions than SVCD. I think it looks a lot better on my monitor. However, I still use SVCD because the difference is not that noticeable on a regular tube TV, and I don't use my computer for watching stuff.

 

[Nefrodite]

Originally posted by: prodigy69

Originally posted by: obiwaynekenobi
Probably DivX

SVCD is more compressed. and is not as as good as quailty.

I think you got it backwards.

well sorta. svcd is mpeg 2 low bitrate low resolution 2-3 cds. basically cr@ppy but many set top players support the format.

divx is high high compression with pretty decent quality, not mpeg2 high bitrate quality by any means of ocurse. the sound depends on how u encode of course, res depends on if you make 1 or 2 or 3 cd rips 1 cd rips are not all that kewl. e


either way they all suck, rent from netflix and get quality, surround sound at full quality and special features i pay like 14 bux a month for a dvd arriving every 2 days or so basically

 

[Pabster]

Super VideoCD all the way. DivX sucks the big one, and anyone who wastes their time encoding in this proprietary format ... IMHO, of course. DivX is fine for small clips and perhaps TV show archives, but it is a terrible method for backing up DVD movies.

SVCD offers nearly all the advantages of DVD. It is possible to achieve very high quality even with severely reduced bitrates. And you can play the disc on non-PC devices.

 

[Goosemaster]

Give us proof then..I have never EVER seen a good vcd or svcd....divx on the otherhand is really nice


anyone care to show me...I guess a clip would be nice...


It would be nice if they were better

 

[Czar]

SVCD

pros:
- High bitrate
- Smooth playback
- Works on most dvd players

cons:
- low resolution
- bad compression


DIVX

pros:
- High resolution
- Good compression
- Can use any audio codec you want

cons:
- Sometimes looks bad in high action scenes due to low bitrate
- Needs a computer to play

 

[skace]

Holy shiat, this thread is ASSBACKWARDS. So many people saying divx is better than svcd that I think I'm going to puke. While Divx continues to improve in the quality department and may someday phase out SVCD, SVCD is still the king of quality BY FAR. If you have the space, you want to rip the SVCD, that simple. To bury the axe, make 1 of each yourself.

SVCD > DivX


EDIT: How the hell is SVCD low resolution? (So confused, since every SVCD he has ever seen was done at a higher resolution than divx media)

 

[wolf550e]

DivX. The quality is far superior to SVCD. But, I'd suggest waiting for a fully MP4 compliant format that can be played in set-top boxes, so you won't have to use a computer. XviD is supposed to be compliant, but I'd and see hoe it plays on hardware decoders before using it.

If needing a computer to play the movie is not a concern - only DivX.

 

[BD2003]

Originally posted by: skace
Holy shiat, this thread is ASSBACKWARDS. So many people saying divx is better than svcd that I think I'm going to puke. While Divx continues to improve in the quality department and may someday phase out SVCD, SVCD is still the king of quality BY FAR. If you have the space, you want to rip the SVCD, that simple. To bury the axe, make 1 of each yourself. SVCD > DivX EDIT: How the hell is SVCD low resolution? (So confused, since every SVCD he has ever seen was done at a higher resolution than divx media)

I assume we are comparing the same number of CDs. SVCD will require almost double the amount of data to look as good as divx.

 

[iamme]

With regards to resolution, I think that DivX movies are usually encoded at a higher res than SVCDs. Standard SVCD (NTSC) is 480x480. Most DivX movies I've seen were usually at a higher resolution.

 

[Maverick]

which one allows true 5.1 dolby digital? That would be the choice for me.

 

[yellowperil]

Both can support 5.1. SVCD is spec'd for Dolby Surround but you can incorporate 5.1. The problem is that the standalone player and receiver has to support MPEG2 multichannel audio (I think most do not).

 

[PsychoAndy]

SVCD. Definitely. 2 weeks after Training Day came out in the theater, one of my friends "gave" me a SVCD to see if it would work on my teacher's DVD player. It looked exactly like a DVD, except since the DVD player didn't play SVCDs, it didn't exactly work. Besides, with SVCD, you can play it on DVD players, whereas DivX isn't exactly going to be readable on DVD players for a while.

 

[Maverick]

Originally posted by: yellowperil
Both can support 5.1. SVCD is spec'd for Dolby Surround but you can incorporate 5.1. The problem is that the standalone player and receiver has to support MPEG2 multichannel audio (I think most do not).

Well that settles it for me. I was planning on using a HTPC so DivX is probably the best choice for me. I was just going to use DVD-R as the medium, encode DIVX at as high an encoding rate as possible (just to get the multilayer DVDs to fit within 4.7GB). I should get close to the original source quality. The only place where it won't work out is when trying to get DTS.

 

[iamme]

Originally posted by: PsychoAndy
SVCD. Definitely. 2 weeks after Training Day came out in the theater, one of my friends "gave" me a SVCD to see if it would work on my teacher's DVD player. It looked exactly like a DVD, except since the DVD player didn't play SVCDs, it didn't exactly work. Besides, with SVCD, you can play it on DVD players, whereas DivX isn't exactly going to be readable on DVD players for a while.

huh? how could the SVCD look exactly like the DVD, if the player wouldn't play it?

 

[iamme]

alright.......downloaded DVD2SVCD and my 'puter will be ripping and encoding for the rest of the night.

I've gotta say, awesome program thus far. Extremely easy to set up, and from reading in some forums, this is one the best all in one programs out there.

Thanks DAPUNISHER

 

[Nefrodite]

Originally posted by: Shiva112

Originally posted by: yellowperil
Both can support 5.1. SVCD is spec'd for Dolby Surround but you can incorporate 5.1. The problem is that the standalone player and receiver has to support MPEG2 multichannel audio (I think most do not).

Well that settles it for me. I was planning on using a HTPC so DivX is probably the best choice for me. I was just going to use DVD-R as the medium, encode DIVX at as high an encoding rate as possible (just to get the multilayer DVDs to fit within 4.7GB). I should get close to the original source quality. The only place where it won't work out is when trying to get DTS.

only way a svcd looks like a dvd is if your tv is a pos. svcd isnt' animorphic last time i checked for one, and the resolution is definetly inferior. way inferior for widescreen. and how are you going to cram that 448kbs dolby digital track on 2 cds? yes your video suffers or u make it 3 discs. or you downgrade the audio.. like youh ave to do with everything else. just rent dvds

 

[yellowperil]

Originally posted by: Nefroditeonly way a svcd looks like a dvd is if your tv is a pos. svcd isnt' animorphic last time i checked for one, and the resolution is definetly inferior. way inferior for widescreen. and how are you going to cram that 448kbs dolby digital track on 2 cds? yes your video suffers or u make it 3 discs. or you downgrade the audio.. like youh ave to do with everything else. just rent dvds

True, it doesn't look that good for high-resolution monitors. I think it still looks good on most TV's though. There is some pixelation and bluriness but if you're sitting away from the TV you can't really notice it. Also, the audio sounds better than the video looks IMO. I usually use 160/192 kbps and with Pro Logic turned on all the surrounds work like the original DVD.

 

[Nefrodite]

Originally posted by: yellowperil

Originally posted by: Nefroditeonly way a svcd looks like a dvd is if your tv is a pos. svcd isnt' animorphic last time i checked for one, and the resolution is definetly inferior. way inferior for widescreen. and how are you going to cram that 448kbs dolby digital track on 2 cds? yes your video suffers or u make it 3 discs. or you downgrade the audio.. like youh ave to do with everything else. just rent dvds

True, it doesn't look that good for high-resolution monitors. I think it still looks good on most TV's though. There is some pixelation and bluriness but if you're sitting away from the TV you can't really notice it. Also, the audio sounds better than the video looks IMO. I usually use 160/192 kbps and with Pro Logic turned on all the surrounds work like the original DVD.

u do know that prologic isn't true surround right? its mono/limited frequency rears and some funky center channel

 

[PsychoAndy]

Originally posted by: iamme

Originally posted by: PsychoAndy
SVCD. Definitely. 2 weeks after Training Day came out in the theater, one of my friends "gave" me a SVCD to see if it would work on my teacher's DVD player. It looked exactly like a DVD, except since the DVD player didn't play SVCDs, it didn't exactly work. Besides, with SVCD, you can play it on DVD players, whereas DivX isn't exactly going to be readable on DVD players for a while.

huh? how could the SVCD look exactly like the DVD, if the player wouldn't play it?

Sound didn't work, and it wouldnt play normally, the picture was jerky. All i got was the occasional motion (like if you were fast forwarding a DVD) and a lotta stills.

 

[austin316]

Now if you encode the audio as a mp3, is this just stereo sound or dolby pro-logic? Also, if you want to keep the audio as 5.1, is there a way you can lower the 448kbs?

imo, divx and svcd look the same if done right, just that divx is only half the size and can incorporate 5.1. If you are going to just be watching off the pc, divx all the way, otherwise svcd is pretty tough to beat.