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DivX for HD?

mrSHEiK124

mrSHEiK124

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TS files are a pain, would it be smart to deinterlace and resize some 1080i TS files and make 720p DivX files? DivX 6 is only letting me use 4000 kbps though, I'm not sure how bad it'll artifact 🙁
 
If you want to keep them in HD resolution, I suggest (1) H.264/MPEG4-AVC or (2) WM9/VC-1.

In either case, Goose has made a bunch of MPEG4 clips and would probably be the person to bug.
 
Originally posted by: sheik124
Originally posted by: jtvang125
Video forum?
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Video = for video cards and junk, just opened it up before posting and all the threads on the front page are related to video cards
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I'm glad you asked.. I too am capturing HD and would like to know how ppl are converting them for storage.

Anyone have tips or guides?

And yeah... the video forum is pretty much just video HARDWARE talk and not about video quality and conversion. 😉
 
Originally posted by: KnightBreed
If you want to keep them in HD resolution, I suggest (1) H.264/MPEG4-AVC or (2) WM9/VC-1.

In either case, Goose has made a bunch of MPEG4 clips and would probably be the person to bug.
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H264 is an even bigger pain than TS, I'm trying to play this on MORE devices, not less 😛

I'm encoding a small clip of a Stargate Atlantis ep right now with DivX to see how it turns out. 1080i pisses me off, 720p displays perfectly untouched (albeit letterboxed) on my monitor, 1080i needs scaling and deinterlacing, and PureVideo STILL doesn't work like its supposed to.

Originally posted by: frankgomez75
Originally posted by: eelw
The HD profile in DivX6 sucks in comparison to TS or h.264.
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Thats good to know... I was actually gonna to try it, guess this saves me alot trial and error 🙂
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Don't worry, I got the trial and error part down 😉
I see people using XviD alot for HD, and IMO, DivX 5/6 > XviD by a long shot. We'll see how this turns out (I have the same episode in 720p XviD, probably made from the same TS).
 
what do people think of the Nero Recode implementation of h.264?
versus e.g. Quicktime Pro?

i.e., What software are you using to do h.264 encoding?
 
i tried to convert some clips to h.264 and it doesn't seem worth it. it takes HOURS!granted i only have a sucky Athlon XP-M 2400+, but still...i used quicktime pro to convert some clips i downloaded from apples site in h.264 to mpeg-4 and frankly, couldn't tell the difference except the 2 minute convertsion time.
 
I'm still trying to search for a good way to transcode transport streams to h.264 (that will make use of multiple processors). I tried some experimenting a while back, but I didn't know what the hell I was doing 😛

I messed around with Divx 6 I believe (some beta codec with SMP support), and while rendering wasn't ungodly slow (I seem to remember 12-16fps for 1080i), playback didn't seem to work right at all.

The search continues...😛
 
Originally posted by: SynthDude2001
I'm still trying to search for a good way to transcode transport streams to h.264 (that will make use of multiple processors). I tried some experimenting a while back, but I didn't know what the hell I was doing 😛

I messed around with Divx 6 I believe (some beta codec with SMP support), and while rendering wasn't ungodly slow (I seem to remember 12-16fps for 1080i), playback didn't seem to work right at all.

The search continues...😛
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Since 99% of people have Nero on their systems, I'm surprised more people haven't played around with Nero Recode2, which can convert your mpeg or .ts files into h.264/mp4 files.
 
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: SynthDude2001
I'm still trying to search for a good way to transcode transport streams to h.264 (that will make use of multiple processors). I tried some experimenting a while back, but I didn't know what the hell I was doing 😛

I messed around with Divx 6 I believe (some beta codec with SMP support), and while rendering wasn't ungodly slow (I seem to remember 12-16fps for 1080i), playback didn't seem to work right at all.

The search continues...😛
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Since 99% of people have Nero on their systems, I'm surprised more people haven't played around with Nero Recode2, which can convert your mpeg or .ts files into h.264/mp4 files.
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Now that you mention it, I don't think I've tried that one. Might have to do that when I have some free time...

Have you used it yourself? I imagine encoding would be pretty slow with any h.264 implementation, but for quality/space reasons it might be nice.
 
Originally posted by: SynthDude2001
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: SynthDude2001
I'm still trying to search for a good way to transcode transport streams to h.264 (that will make use of multiple processors). I tried some experimenting a while back, but I didn't know what the hell I was doing 😛

I messed around with Divx 6 I believe (some beta codec with SMP support), and while rendering wasn't ungodly slow (I seem to remember 12-16fps for 1080i), playback didn't seem to work right at all.

The search continues...😛
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Since 99% of people have Nero on their systems, I'm surprised more people haven't played around with Nero Recode2, which can convert your mpeg or .ts files into h.264/mp4 files.
Click to expand...

Now that you mention it, I don't think I've tried that one. Might have to do that when I have some free time...

Have you used it yourself? I imagine encoding would be pretty slow with any h.264 implementation, but for quality/space reasons it might be nice.
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I haven't tried it yet. Thinking of trying it today. I'm still using xvid to backup the few shows that I record.
 
Originally posted by: aidanjm
what do people think of the Nero Recode implementation of h.264?
versus e.g. Quicktime Pro?

i.e., What software are you using to do h.264 encoding?
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Nero FTW! It is teh hawtness 😛. However, very uncooperative with video formats (i.e. sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't). But when it work it does an absolutly amazing job. But it will take qutie a while (as with all h.264 encoding 😛)
 
Originally posted by: sheik124
TS files are a pain, would it be smart to deinterlace and resize some 1080i TS files and make 720p DivX files? DivX 6 is only letting me use 4000 kbps though, I'm not sure how bad it'll artifact 🙁
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x264 w/ megui (harder) or gordian knot (easier).

The quality is insanely good, you just have to wait about 2-3 times as long for encoding.

look on doom9.org

here's a link for you: http://www.doom9.org/index.html?/gknot-main6.htm
 
Originally posted by: sheik124
Originally posted by: KnightBreed
If you want to keep them in HD resolution, I suggest (1) H.264/MPEG4-AVC or (2) WM9/VC-1.

In either case, Goose has made a bunch of MPEG4 clips and would probably be the person to bug.
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H264 is an even bigger pain than TS, I'm trying to play this on MORE devices, not less 😛
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Ahhh, haha ignore my last post. Do you have a divx standalone player?? h264 standalones are coming out soon...

I'm encoding a small clip of a Stargate Atlantis ep right now with DivX to see how it turns out. 1080i pisses me off, 720p displays perfectly untouched (albeit letterboxed) on my monitor, 1080i needs scaling and deinterlacing, and PureVideo STILL doesn't work like its supposed to.

Originally posted by: frankgomez75
Originally posted by: eelw
The HD profile in DivX6 sucks in comparison to TS or h.264.
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Thats good to know... I was actually gonna to try it, guess this saves me alot trial and error 🙂
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Don't worry, I got the trial and error part down 😉
I see people using XviD alot for HD, and IMO, DivX 5/6 > XviD by a long shot. We'll see how this turns out (I have the same episode in 720p XviD, probably made from the same TS).
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XviD is a ton better IMO.

By the way, you should definitely deinterlace the 1080i to 720p. You'll get much better compression that way.
 
Originally posted by: SynthDude2001
I'm still trying to search for a good way to transcode transport streams to h.264 (that will make use of multiple processors). I tried some experimenting a while back, but I didn't know what the hell I was doing 😛

I messed around with Divx 6 I believe (some beta codec with SMP support), and while rendering wasn't ungodly slow (I seem to remember 12-16fps for 1080i), playback didn't seem to work right at all.

The search continues...😛
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x264 (opensource and the best h264 codec out there right now) is optimized for SMP. You can use avisynth frameserving to it, so it works great. pm me if you want details.

now, encoding speed...that's another story.
 
Originally posted by: frankgomez75
Originally posted by: Looney
I wished more HD content would come out faster.... i think most people have HDTV sets by now.
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Ummm... not quite. I'd say about 30% of the population have HD sets
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I think it's even less than that.
 
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