Disturbing video of kids fighting

[AnthroAndStargate]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: AnthroAndStargate
No I am certian that LINGUISTIC STUDIES show difference of regional accents. Once again you are making generalizations without objective, scientific inquiry.Once again, case in point.

FACT: Those people live in an urban area.

I think someone posted a followup story to this, or if anyone knows a link to it, post it. I will prove it. I am that confident in my generalizations.

EVEN if they did live in an urban area it does not mean everyone in the urban area is like that. Hell it doesn't mean ANYONE else is like that - you have NO EVIDENCE. You are just making blanket assumptions based off a whim and a rudimentary observation.

Heres some suggestions for you:

- Think long and hard about how you truly feel about lower class people of all races, or blacks in particular. If you find prejudices there (which all humans have) perhaps confront those by befriending or researching more about these people and their lives.
- Read about linguistic studies in the U.S. - you will find that regional variation exists even among AAE (African-American English) or "ebonics".
- Read some Sociological/Economic/and Anthropological studies on socio-economic issues in different cultural groups such as poverty, assimilation to the dominant hegemonic ideal, capital flow and business ownership, etc. This can also help to remedy the first point.
- Realize that all humans are different. You wouldn't want me to make a generalizations that you and all people who have money signs as their avatar and talk with loaded neo-con words are all ethnocentric racists? I doubt you are a 'racist' but you do make way to many generalizations about large groups of people from what I have observed.

(edit) I'm not free of generalizations either - but I am trying to recognize when I do make them and note them so I don't buy into them as much as possible. No one can free themselves from generalizations either - but you are ignoring yours altogether - and thats a slippery slope.

 

[JLGatsby]

Originally posted by: AnthroAndStargate
EVEN if they did live in an urban area it does not mean everyone in the urban area is like that. Hell it doesn't mean ANYONE else is like that - you have NO EVIDENCE. You are just making blanket assumptions based off a whim and a rudimentary observation.

FACT: There is a "culture" of violence and ignorance in "urban" areas in America, which probably contributed to what was seen in that video.

I'm not saying all people in urban areas are like that. I'm only saying there is strong influence.

 

[AnthroAndStargate]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: AnthroAndStargate
EVEN if they did live in an urban area it does not mean everyone in the urban area is like that. Hell it doesn't mean ANYONE else is like that - you have NO EVIDENCE. You are just making blanket assumptions based off a whim and a rudimentary observation.

FACT: There is a "culture" of violence and ignorance in "urban" areas in America, which probably contributed to what was seen in that video.

I'm not saying all people in urban areas are like that. I'm only saying there is strong influence.

FACT: There is a "Culture" of Ignorance, Violence, AND drug use in Suburbia. WHOOPS. Looks like humanity is all the same! Domestic abuse, yuppie and teen angst and drug use, and racist ideologies exist just as much as they do in the McMansions and suburban areas of America as they do in the Fifth Ward and Little Mexico. Once again - please cite some studies that probe the 'culture of violence' myth - because I have read many studies to the contrary. Thanks! (p.s. one such study I recommended in the first post).

(edit) For whatever 'culture of violence' does exist in the urban areas it's most likely attributed to poverty and a sense of hopelessness due to no capital development (in LA blacks own none of the businesses in their part of the inner city - it is owned primarily by Koreans). Blacks with capital flee the inner city for suburbia. Sociological studies have also shown poorer classes in urban and rural areas don't have the unspoken benefits of networking that suburbanites have - thus they end up flipping burgers rather then trading stocks. I don't want to get in an argument about this issue though - it will start another 20 post flame war - but if you are interested once again there are a lot of great studies on this.

 

[mundane]

FACT: If you're going to start labeling what you believe as a "FACT", cite a frickin' source. Personal observation doesn't count - you'd need to preface it with "From what I've seen", or "Based on my experience", or "I believe". Just because most of the cars I view on a drive are color X doesn't mean that observation can apply to anything greater than that specific set.

 

[AnthroAndStargate]

Originally posted by: diegoalcatraz
FACT: If you're going to start labeling what you believe as a "FACT", cite a frickin' source. Personal observation doesn't count - you'd need to preface it with "From what I've seen", or "Based on my experience", or "I believe". Just because most of the cars I view on a drive are color X doesn't mean that observation can apply to anything greater than that specific set.

This is what I have been trying to say. Thank you for saying it much more succinctly. Continuing to nef would be pointless Gatsby, I would recommend looking into your prejuidices and predisposition to over generalize on large groups of people though.

 

[JLGatsby]

Originally posted by: AnthroAndStargate
Domestic abuse, yuppie and teen angst and drug use, and racist ideologies exist just as much as they do in the McMansions and suburban areas of America as they do in the Fifth Ward and Little Mexico.

You are brain-dead stupid if you believe that. Are you even from America?

Yes there is ignorance everywhere, but what I'm saying there is a DOMINANT culture of ignorance and violence (thug/rap culture) in urban areas. That is a FACT.

There are hardly no gangs and not nearly as much drugs in suburban areas as in urban areas. You're stupid if you believe otherwise.

I have a very very unique and diverse upbringing (in economic terms). I've been very poor and quite well off as a kid and went to a working class urban school for elementary and then to a very very wealthy high school. The "ignorance/violence/drugs in suburbia" crap is total BS started by a bunch of morons sympathetic to urban culture.

I also like the "snobbish rich kid on drugs" myth. I went to school with kids in billionaire families, the whole "drug addict" and "spoiled" myths are total BS. Albiet, this was in the Midwest, so it could be different on the coasts.

And I noticed NO SHORTAGE of ignorance and drugs in the poor areas I grew to know so well.

People like you say I'm too "black and white" (not imply race) on the issues, but the fact is that people are NOT all the same and there are HUGE differences, especially when it comes to income and culture. I know because I've seen it.

 

[IronOxide]

When is America going to be intolerant to intolerance?

 

[classy]

OMG.............Total utter trash. Those kids should be removed and every last of those trash folks should be charged with a litany of child endangerment violations and be locked the hell up.

 

[50cent1228]

were they betting on that shyte...now thats crazy

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: AnthroAndStargate
Domestic abuse, yuppie and teen angst and drug use, and racist ideologies exist just as much as they do in the McMansions and suburban areas of America as they do in the Fifth Ward and Little Mexico.

You are brain-dead stupid if you believe that. Are you even from America?

Yes there is ignorance everywhere, but what I'm saying there is a DOMINANT culture of ignorance and violence (thug/rap culture) in urban areas. That is a FACT.

There are hardly no gangs and not nearly as much drugs in suburban areas as in urban areas. You're stupid if you believe otherwise.

I have a very very unique and diverse upbringing (in economic terms). I've been very poor and quite well off as a kid and went to a working class urban school for elementary and then to a very very wealthy high school. The "ignorance/violence/drugs in suburbia" crap is total BS started by a bunch of morons sympathetic to urban culture.

I also like the "snobbish rich kid on drugs" myth. I went to school with kids in billionaire families, the whole "drug addict" and "spoiled" myths are total BS. Albiet, this was in the Midwest, so it could be different on the coasts.

And I noticed NO SHORTAGE of ignorance and drugs in the poor areas I grew to know so well.

People like you say I'm too "black and white" (not imply race) on the issues, but the fact is that people are NOT all the same and there are HUGE differences, especially when it comes to income and culture. I know because I've seen it.

Yea, I went to high school in Beverly Hills...there were a few potheads, but no serious hard drug problems.