Dispute over seat sparked attack on school bus

Perknose

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Originally posted by: MetalMat[/i
Was it racially motivated? Who knows, but if it were on the other end of the spectrum i am sure good ole Al Sharpton would be all over this.


Tired, reflexive, whiny response OP. Get a life.

 

Fear No Evil

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Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: MetalMat[/i
Was it racially motivated? Who knows, but if it were on the other end of the spectrum i am sure good ole Al Sharpton would be all over this.


Tired, reflexive, whiny response OP. Get a life.



Typical, angry, bitter, liberal. Go troll elsewhere.
 

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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: MetalMat
Was it racially motivated? Who knows, but if it were on the other end of the spectrum i am sure good ole Al Sharpton would be all over this.

Tired, reflexive, whiny response OP. Get a life.

Typical, angry, bitter, liberal. Go troll elsewhere.

Take your own advice. Please.

 

Fear No Evil

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Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: MetalMat
Was it racially motivated? Who knows, but if it were on the other end of the spectrum i am sure good ole Al Sharpton would be all over this.

Tired, reflexive, whiny response OP. Get a life.

Typical, angry, bitter, liberal. Go troll elsewhere.

Take your own advice. Please.

Lead by example.
 

Perknose

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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: MetalMat
Was it racially motivated? Who knows, but if it were on the other end of the spectrum i am sure good ole Al Sharpton would be all over this.

Tired, reflexive, whiny response OP. Get a life.

Typical, angry, bitter, liberal. Go troll elsewhere.

Take your own advice. Please.

Lead by example.

I criticized his response. You just issued your standard asshole troll, troll boy.
 

TechBoyJK

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I went to that high school. The only reasons those thugs look dressed nice is because they have to wear khakis+polo shirts as uniforms. It's rather embarassing, the video.
 
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Originally posted by: MetalMat
Link to article and video


Was it racially motivated? Who knows, but if it were on the other end of the spectrum i am sure good ole Al Sharpton would be all over this.
Tough call...but it looks like he was the only white kid on the bus...hard to imagine that his skin color had nothing to do with this. No doubt that if the situation was reversed...the reaction would be a tad more intense.
 
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Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: MetalMat[/i
Was it racially motivated? Who knows, but if it were on the other end of the spectrum i am sure good ole Al Sharpton would be all over this.


Tired, reflexive, whiny response OP. Get a life.


Shut up...just shut up. If anybody's reflexive and whining here...it's you.
 

Jaskalas

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Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: MetalMat[/i
Was it racially motivated? Who knows, but if it were on the other end of the spectrum i am sure good ole Al Sharpton would be all over this.


Tired, reflexive, whiny response OP. Get a life.



People can't be upset with black leaders for being racist and only championing issues on a single color basis?

They sure as hell can by my book and how dare you assert otherwise.
 

Sinsear

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Probably wouldnt even be picked up by news networks but limbaugh covered it yesterday. Racist? Probably. Deserving of national attention? Probably not.
 

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Whenever I racially motivate African Americans, I make sure I play lots of "Family Matters" videos featuring Urkle.
 

Phokus

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Andrew Sullivan had an excellent piece on this:

They Don't Even Disguise The Race-Baiting Any More

Limbaugh echoes Malkin:

"In Obama's America, the white kids now get beat up with the black kids cheering, 'Yay, right on, right on, right on, right on... I wonder if Obama's going to come to come to the defense of the assailants the way he did his friend Skip Gates up there at Harvard."

I'm sorry but this is outrageous. The story was a classic schoolbus bully incident; it could happen anywhere any time and has happened everywhere at all times with kids of all races, backgrounds and religions. To infer both that it was racially motivated and that this is somehow connected to having a black president is repulsive. I know that is almost de trop with Limbaugh, but sometimes you have to regain a little shock. This man is spewing incendiary racial hatred. He is conjuring up images of lonely whites being besieged by angry violent blacks ... based on an incident that had nothing to do with race at all. And why, by the way, does someone immediately go to the racial angle when looking at such a tape?

These people are going off the deep end entirely: open panic at a black president is morphing into the conscious fanning of racial polarization, via Gates or ACORN or Van Jones or a schoolbus in Saint Louis. What we're seeing is the Jeremiah Wright moment repeated and repeated. The far right is seizing any racial story to fan white fears of black power in order to destroy Obama. And the far right now controls the entire right.

Do they understand how irresonsible this is? How recklessly dangerous to a society's cohesion and calm? Or is that what they need and thrive on?

http://andrewsullivan.theatlan...ebaiting-any-more.html

Was it racially motivated? Based on the new facts, it's not a sure thing. Did racist conservatives project and jump the gun? To quote Sarah Palin: you betcha
 

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Originally posted by: Phokus
Andrew Sullivan had an excellent piece on this:

They Don't Even Disguise The Race-Baiting Any More

Limbaugh echoes Malkin:

"In Obama's America, the white kids now get beat up with the black kids cheering, 'Yay, right on, right on, right on, right on... I wonder if Obama's going to come to come to the defense of the assailants the way he did his friend Skip Gates up there at Harvard."

I'm sorry but this is outrageous. The story was a classic schoolbus bully incident; it could happen anywhere any time and has happened everywhere at all times with kids of all races, backgrounds and religions. To infer both that it was racially motivated and that this is somehow connected to having a black president is repulsive. I know that is almost de trop with Limbaugh, but sometimes you have to regain a little shock. This man is spewing incendiary racial hatred. He is conjuring up images of lonely whites being besieged by angry violent blacks ... based on an incident that had nothing to do with race at all. And why, by the way, does someone immediately go to the racial angle when looking at such a tape?

These people are going off the deep end entirely: open panic at a black president is morphing into the conscious fanning of racial polarization, via Gates or ACORN or Van Jones or a schoolbus in Saint Louis. What we're seeing is the Jeremiah Wright moment repeated and repeated. The far right is seizing any racial story to fan white fears of black power in order to destroy Obama. And the far right now controls the entire right.

Do they understand how irresonsible this is? How recklessly dangerous to a society's cohesion and calm? Or is that what they need and thrive on?

http://andrewsullivan.theatlan...ebaiting-any-more.html

Was it racially motivated? Based on the new facts, it's not a sure thing. Did racist conservatives project and jump the gun? To quote Sarah Palin: you betcha

You would think that people would know by now, how to use claims of racism,,,,properly.

 
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Originally posted by: Phokus
Andrew Sullivan had an excellent piece on this:

They Don't Even Disguise The Race-Baiting Any More

Limbaugh echoes Malkin:

"In Obama's America, the white kids now get beat up with the black kids cheering, 'Yay, right on, right on, right on, right on... I wonder if Obama's going to come to come to the defense of the assailants the way he did his friend Skip Gates up there at Harvard."

I'm sorry but this is outrageous. The story was a classic schoolbus bully incident; it could happen anywhere any time and has happened everywhere at all times with kids of all races, backgrounds and religions. To infer both that it was racially motivated and that this is somehow connected to having a black president is repulsive. I know that is almost de trop with Limbaugh, but sometimes you have to regain a little shock. This man is spewing incendiary racial hatred. He is conjuring up images of lonely whites being besieged by angry violent blacks ... based on an incident that had nothing to do with race at all. And why, by the way, does someone immediately go to the racial angle when looking at such a tape?

These people are going off the deep end entirely: open panic at a black president is morphing into the conscious fanning of racial polarization, via Gates or ACORN or Van Jones or a schoolbus in Saint Louis. What we're seeing is the Jeremiah Wright moment repeated and repeated. The far right is seizing any racial story to fan white fears of black power in order to destroy Obama. And the far right now controls the entire right.

Do they understand how irresonsible this is? How recklessly dangerous to a society's cohesion and calm? Or is that what they need and thrive on?

http://andrewsullivan.theatlan...ebaiting-any-more.html

Was it racially motivated? Based on the new facts, it's not a sure thing. Did racist conservatives project and jump the gun? To quote Sarah Palin: you betcha
Limbaugh is partisan hack...is this any surprise?
 

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There is audio during the attack. There are racial epithets galore directed at the kid being attacked repeatedly by multiple attackers. While some kids are trying to restrain one attacker that I can see, the crowd seems to be inciting further attack. The attacks, multiple, are being made against a racial minority on that bus.

The kid that gets beat up is either stupid brave or just stupid to be there to be victimized - or he has no choice and has to be on that bus to get to school to get an education.

I wonder which it is?
 

Fear No Evil

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Its amazing that when a black person is involved in anything like this everyone starts shouting RACISTS RACISTS immediately. When its whitey, its 'We need to wait and see if this was racially motivated'.. 'Its not clear if race was a factor'.. etc.
 
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Originally posted by: PJABBER
There is audio during the attack. There are racial epithets galore directed at the kid being attacked repeatedly by multiple attackers. While some kids are trying to restrain one attacker that I can see, the crowd seems to be inciting further attack. The attacks, multiple, are being made against a racial minority on that bus.

The kid that gets beat up is either stupid brave or just stupid to be there to be victimized - or he has no choice and has to be on that bus to get to school to get an education.

I wonder which it is?
Can you link the audio please. The kid was a victim...not sure why you might think stupidity would have anything to do with this. Stupid for a kid to ride a school bus to go to school? Not sure where you're coming from here.

 

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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Its amazing that when a black person is involved in anything like this everyone starts shouting RACISTS RACISTS immediately. When its whitey, its 'We need to wait and see if this was racially motivated'.. 'Its not clear if race was a factor'.. etc.

Yeah, I have no idea why people would be more likely to believe anti-black racism in America.
 

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Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
Originally posted by: PJABBER
There is audio during the attack. There are racial epithets galore directed at the kid being attacked repeatedly by multiple attackers. While some kids are trying to restrain one attacker that I can see, the crowd seems to be inciting further attack. The attacks, multiple, are being made against a racial minority on that bus.

The kid that gets beat up is either stupid brave or just stupid to be there to be victimized - or he has no choice and has to be on that bus to get to school to get an education.

I wonder which it is?
Can you link the audio please. The kid was a victim...not sure why you might think stupidity would have anything to do with this. Stupid for a kid to ride a school bus to go to school? Not sure where you're coming from here.

Raw video and audio of West Belleville school bus attack

Welcome to the life your kids live.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Its amazing that when a black person is involved in anything like this everyone starts shouting RACISTS RACISTS immediately. When its whitey, its 'We need to wait and see if this was racially motivated'.. 'Its not clear if race was a factor'.. etc.

sadly thats often the case.

 

jonks

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Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
Originally posted by: Phokus
Andrew Sullivan had an excellent piece on this:

They Don't Even Disguise The Race-Baiting Any More

Limbaugh echoes Malkin:

"In Obama's America, the white kids now get beat up with the black kids cheering, 'Yay, right on, right on, right on, right on.
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Limbaugh is partisan hack...is this any surprise?

There's partisan, and there's racist/race-bating. I watched slack-jawed as this morning on Morning Joe as the guests were discussing Carter's statement about some of the Obama opposition being racially motivated. One guest said Limbaugh and Beck egg on the racial hatred. Scarborough said he'd never heard of Limbaugh saying anything of the kind.

Gee, it was only yesterday Limbaugh said the above. And this isn't a new thing with him. Beck, when he isn't raping and murdering women in 1990, encourages and feeds the Truther frenzy and paranoia that a secret muslim who wasn't born in the US (clearly, because he's brown and has a weird name) became president.

Polls show about 23% of Americans, almost entirely republican and most predominantly in the South, either don't know or flat out deny that Obama is a US citizen. To claim there's no racial relation there is pretty oblivious. It's not a majority by any means, but a sizable segment? You betcha.

Rod Dreher, noted conservative blogger who posts on belief.net stated:
http://blog.beliefnet.com/crun...-hits-racial-bott.html
Let's say that Democrat Joe Lieberman was the American president. And let's say that Rush Limbaugh said this on his radio show:

"It's Lieberman's America, is it not? Lieberman's America, Gentiles getting ripped off by Jews on Wall Street. You invest your hard-earned money in a mutual fund, you expect safety but in Lieberman's America the non-Jews now get stolen from..."

What would that sound like to you? Would you be able to call it mere "sarcasm"? Or would you recognize that there was something more sinister at work in this language?
 
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Originally posted by: PJABBER
Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
Originally posted by: PJABBER
There is audio during the attack. There are racial epithets galore directed at the kid being attacked repeatedly by multiple attackers. While some kids are trying to restrain one attacker that I can see, the crowd seems to be inciting further attack. The attacks, multiple, are being made against a racial minority on that bus.

The kid that gets beat up is either stupid brave or just stupid to be there to be victimized - or he has no choice and has to be on that bus to get to school to get an education.

I wonder which it is?
Can you link the audio please. The kid was a victim...not sure why you might think stupidity would have anything to do with this. Stupid for a kid to ride a school bus to go to school? Not sure where you're coming from here.

Raw video and audio of West Belleville school bus attack

Welcome to the life your kids live.
Thanks. Having trouble understanding the words though. FYI...I grew up in that world in LA...my kids live in a different world.
 

TheSlamma

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This kind of thing has been going on for DECADES.. a video catches one occurrence of it and now it's news?