display problem with intro game movie/video

Pepsei

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anyone ran into problem like this? the games that I'm haveing problem with is

Metalheart : replicant rampage, and Soldiers -Heroes of WWII

I'm running the latest ATI driver, my card is radeon 9600, display is NEC LCD 1960nxi
 

rbV5

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Hmmm, maybe those cut scenes are WMV files? Try turning off WMV acceleration if its enabled in CCC and see if it might fix it. There was an issue with WMP9 fixed by installing WMP10 I can recall. I have no idea if thats your issue, but it does sound like a colorspace issue when the wrong FourCC code is being used. I've also seen a similar issue with Xvid encodings.
 

Pepsei

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wow... turning off wmv acceleration didn't fix it, but installing wmp10 did...

thanks for the tip!!!
 

rbV5

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Originally posted by: Pepsei
wow... turning off wmv acceleration didn't fix it, but installing wmp10 did...

thanks for the tip!!!

It must use WMP engine for video, it seems WMP9 has issues with Catalyst drivers and wmv files.

 

xtknight

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I always had "infrared" video and random dxvasig.txt everywhere on my Video Rig's Radeon. :| WMP10 seemed to fix it. Don't think other players had the problem. Never had this issue with my GeForce 6800 as far as I could tell. But I do have other problems. To this day I still get other ugly colors (as have others) in DivX/WMP10/VMR9 mode with DXVA patch. Stupid Microsoft. Either they don't test their crappy patches or they don't give a crap about anything but WM codecs.

/rant
 

rbV5

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Originally posted by: xtknight
I always had "infrared" video and random dxvasig.txt everywhere on my Video Rig's Radeon. :| WMP10 seemed to fix it. Don't think other players had the problem. Never had this issue with my GeForce 6800 as far as I could tell. But I do have other problems. To this day I still get other ugly colors (as have others) in DivX/WMP10/VMR9 mode with DXVA patch. Stupid Microsoft. Either they don't test their crappy patches or they don't give a crap about anything but WM codecs.

/rant

Divx playback should be unaffected by MS DXVA patch. In WMP, Divx is rendered by the Divx or Mpeg4 codec you have installed, not by any Microsoft decoder. To be honest, WMP is not the best software for media playback.
 

xtknight

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Originally posted by: rbV5
Originally posted by: xtknight
I always had "infrared" video and random dxvasig.txt everywhere on my Video Rig's Radeon. :| WMP10 seemed to fix it. Don't think other players had the problem. Never had this issue with my GeForce 6800 as far as I could tell. But I do have other problems. To this day I still get other ugly colors (as have others) in DivX/WMP10/VMR9 mode with DXVA patch. Stupid Microsoft. Either they don't test their crappy patches or they don't give a crap about anything but WM codecs.

/rant

Divx playback should be unaffected by MS DXVA patch. In WMP, Divx is rendered by the Divx or Mpeg4 codec you have installed, not by any Microsoft decoder. To be honest, WMP is not the best software for media playback.

Should be. :)

Yeah I use MPC, I just think it's stupid how they broke WMP.
 

rbV5

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Originally posted by: xtknight
Originally posted by: rbV5
Originally posted by: xtknight
I always had "infrared" video and random dxvasig.txt everywhere on my Video Rig's Radeon. :| WMP10 seemed to fix it. Don't think other players had the problem. Never had this issue with my GeForce 6800 as far as I could tell. But I do have other problems. To this day I still get other ugly colors (as have others) in DivX/WMP10/VMR9 mode with DXVA patch. Stupid Microsoft. Either they don't test their crappy patches or they don't give a crap about anything but WM codecs.

/rant

Divx playback should be unaffected by MS DXVA patch. In WMP, Divx is rendered by the Divx or Mpeg4 codec you have installed, not by any Microsoft decoder. To be honest, WMP is not the best software for media playback.

Should be. :)

Yeah I use MPC, I just think it's stupid how they broke WMP.

Whats broken again?
 

xtknight

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If I play DivX or XviD files with high quality mode in WMP10 w/ DXVA patch, the colors are screwed. Overlay mixer is fine. Before the DXVA patch I had no trouble with VMR9 mode with it. And other players have played every file fine all along. It's odd and I can't seem to reproduce it now. If you don't believe me, I'll try to find the thread on the other person who had the same problem. It's not happening in ffdshow now for me. I can only vaguely remember it, it could have only happened in the official DivX decoder. Maybe I have a later version of ffdshow that fixed it, who knows?

Edit: not sure if I have the DXVA patch installed now, I reinstalled Windows relatively recently. I thought I had it installed.
 

rbV5

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Originally posted by: xtknight
If I play DivX or XviD files with high quality mode in WMP10 w/ DXVA patch, the colors are screwed. Overlay mixer is fine. Before the DXVA patch I had no trouble with VMR9 mode with it. And other players have played every file fine all along. It's odd and I can't seem to reproduce it now. If you don't believe me, I'll try to find the thread on the other person who had the same problem. It's not happening in ffdshow now for me. I can only vaguely remember it, it could have only happened in the official DivX decoder. Maybe I have a later version of ffdshow that fixed it, who knows?

Edit: not sure if I have the DXVA patch installed now, I reinstalled Windows relatively recently. I thought I had it installed.

I do believe you, I just don't attribute the issues with the the patch that enabled DXVA acceration for WMV as being the culprit for Divx or Xvid. In fact Xvid messing with the fourCC code is an issue I've run across before(not in WMP), not that that was the issue you were having. The fact is that Mpeg4 files in AVI containers pose all kinds of issues with all the different codecs and decoder versions.

VMR9 rendering also has a host of issues, its not just WMP that chokes at times, its simply not properly supported across the board.
 

xtknight

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Yeah this was an AVI file containing an XviD video codec. It is odd I only saw it in WMP (as I recall). The colors looked more like a pink cast over everything with other color shifts going on. It wasn't just a hue issue because the color cast was inconsistent across the video. It didn't look like the problem the OP had where the whole video looked infrared/sort of inverted-like.

VMR9 issues?
 

rbV5

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VMR9 issues?

VMR9 has 3 modes: Windowed, Windowless and Renderless. Each mode requires different handling by the host computer and graphics hardware, and each mode increases in complexity, with VMR9 Windowed the most basic. The most complex is VMR9 renderless, while able to potentially produce the best PQ, and smoothest playback with the largest feature set, it is also requires excellent hardware, driver and software support in order to work properly.
 

xtknight

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Originally posted by: rbV5
VMR9 issues?

VMR9 has 3 modes: Windowed, Windowless and Renderless. Each mode requires different handling by the host computer and graphics hardware, and each mode increases in complexity, with VMR9 Windowed the most basic. The most complex is VMR9 renderless, while able to potentially produce the best PQ, and smoothest playback with the largest feature set, it is also requires excellent hardware, driver and software support in order to work properly.

Well, yeah, but any problems in particular? I thought VMR9 was fairly reliable.

Sidenote-I finally got around to adding something to your graphedit thread. Hasn't been very active lately though.