displacement...

PatboyX

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i started a thread suggesting this book, In The Shadow of No Towers, to people in OT but it brought up a point i thought would spark interesting conversaion over her in P&N.

at some point, spegielman suggests that after 9/11 everyone was suffering from a sort of displacement. he starts with himself (and his cat) and in each panel moves parts of himself and the objects around him into different "slots" of the art.
anyway, he moves from himself to suggesting that the war in Iraq is a displaced sense of retaliation, that the NYT editor stepping down is displaced sense of failed duty (the suggestion is that the mainstream media didnt really do their job in questioning/covering the issues directly before the war) that used the 'fake-writer' as a moral scapegoat.

while it is obvious what his political instincts are, i wondered if people felt that this displacement (not specifically the type that he describes, for he is a pretty liberal guy) has shown itself in other forms. i also wonder if people agree that it is almost a direct result of 9/11/01.
or, in general i wonder how people would see what i have tried to describe above.
if anyone else has read the book, feel free to re-explain my ideas. as it is a work of words and art, im sure it has many interpretations and, admittedly, my art history knowledge is not as extensive as my literature background.

also: you all should read this book.
 

Moonbeam

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The terrorists attacked me in my sleep. I was pigging out on stuff and sucking down the worlds resources and Bamb, those bastards attacked me in my safe and secure country. Well let me tell you I had a temper tantrum and wet my pants. I was really really upset. How dare anybody attack America the land of freedom to and the home of spoiled cowards like me. Now I gotta check my toilet roll every time the light turns orange and I want Bush to just go Kill Kill Kill. How dare somebody attack me in my bed when I'm asleep. How dare they insult me like that. The whole world can die if that's what it takes to rest. I can handle anything but a slight inconvenience
 

Cerb

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For once in all my time at AT, I give you, Moonbeam, a :thumbsup:.

IMO, it's a bunch of crap. I was sad after what I saw after 9/11. Not because of people having to breathe that extra fowl NYC air, or because 2801 people died. Or even because one flight went suicidal. But because I heard this BS about how people really felt like they were part of something, and not all separate...as if it were any different than before. Then, instead of people continuing to wake up to their situation, of being part of a whole, they got back into life as normal. Sad.
 

PatboyX

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the book doesnt really deal with people suddenly feeling together, not the way i read it. it was more to do with the common variations on response to 9/11.
i especially liked the panel where he talks about the claim that "irony is dead" as he remembers the first plane crashing into the towers behind a gigantic billboard for arnolds movie "collateral damage"