Disney to (finally) lose copyright to Mickey Mouse and become public domain. Surprised they didn't try to extend it (again) under Trump

JEDI

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Originally, copyright laws expire after 75 yrs from first publication.
Mickey Mouse first appeared in 1928.
Then the Mickey Mouse protection act was passed in 1998 extending the expiration term by 20yrs, so 95 yrs from publication.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Term_Extension_Act

2024 is the new copyright expiration date for the steamboat version of Mickey Mouse.

In today's political climate, i doubt Biden/Dems are willing to extend it.
I'm surprised Disney didn't push/buy an extension under Trump's presidency when he controlled both chambers of Congress.

Sidenote:
Disney's Winnie-the-Pooh became public domain in 2022.
Result: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winnie-the-Pooh:_Blood_and_Honey
It made 50x profit, so there will be a sequel.
Hm... bestiality in Part2? :eek:
 
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It's not like they will really lose control of Mickey - they still have plenty of registered trademarks they can enforce to protect their brand. They just won't be able to stop someone from repackaging or rebroadcasting the original cartoons.
 
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It's not like they will really lose control of Mickey - they still have plenty of registered trademarks they can enforce to protect their brand. They just won't be able to stop someone from repackaging or rebroadcasting the original cartoons.
no, you can create whatever you like, as long as you are not using Disney's version of Micky Mouse. For example, create a Mickey Mouse with triangular ears.
 

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no, you can create whatever you like, as long as you are not using Disney's version of Micky Mouse. For example, create a Mickey Mouse with triangular ears.
You could do that at any time, well there are certain things that make up the copyright and as long as you change those you can do anything you want. That's how south park "got away" with making fun of mickey.

This case will allow you to take steamboat willie as is, as a whole, without changing anything, and create new stories animations and anything you want with it. (as long as you don't step on any other copyrights)
 
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Originally, copyright laws expire after 75 yrs from first publication.
Mickey Mouse first appeared in 1928.
Then the Mickey Mouse protection act was passed in 1998 extending the expiration term by 20yrs, so 95 yrs from publication.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Term_Extension_Act

2024 is the new copyright expiration date for the steamboat version of Mickey Mouse.

In today's political climate, i doubt Biden/Dems are willing to extend it.
I'm surprised Disney didn't push/buy an extension under Trump's presidency when he controlled both chambers of Congress.

Sidenote:
Disney's Winnie-the-Pooh became public domain in 2022.
Result: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winnie-the-Pooh:_Blood_and_Honey
It made 50x profit, so there will be a sequel.
Will there be bestiality in Part2? :eek:
So that poster with all of the Disney characters screwing each other from the late 60s/early 70s is a go now?
 
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I don't much care for what Disney has become since the 70s, but this is an example of the exception that should go on in perpetuity. This character is pretty much synonymous with the company as a whole, still actively used as one of their most recognized symbols on corporate properties.
 
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my understanding is only the steamboat version of micky is open now and not the mickey we see today.
 

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That doesn't make aense since Disney maintained it is the same character.
I'm going by what I remember reading years ago when they last extended it. Temple Law had an article a year or two ago about winny. the character is in public domain but disney's version is still theirs.

I don't remember the specifics of the last micky bullshit but they implemented changes over the years so they could copyright that specific look while the original's went into public domain. Here's a better write up from Duke Law that explains it.


i don't care about any of this tbh but i wouldn't mind a micky shitting on deshitstain if anyone wants to design one.
 

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That doesn't make aense since Disney maintained it is the same character.
Mickey's appearance has changed a lot over the years and from show to show. Basically this will free people to create derivative work of the original Mickey or straight up copy the original Mickey. But you can't make derivative work of newer Mickey's.

Just like any one can make a Little Mermaid movie, but it can't be a derivative of Disney's version.
 

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That doesn't make aense since Disney maintained it is the same character.
copyright expires, trademark doesnt as long as you defend it. while they lose control of the copyright to steamboat willie, they still have control over the 3 circle mouse ears mickey logo and the more current designs of mickey.

other people can now air and sell versions of the steamboat willie film, but they dont get free use of the other movies until they reach the 95 year mark.

the logo and other images being tied to disney's trademarks is where the legal fight between copyright will be fought.

 

JEDI

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Originally, copyright laws expire after 75 yrs from first publication.
Mickey Mouse first appeared in 1928.
Then the Mickey Mouse protection act was passed in 1998 extending the expiration term by 20yrs, so 95 yrs from publication.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Term_Extension_Act

2024 is the new copyright expiration date for the steamboat version of Mickey Mouse.

In today's political climate, i doubt Biden/Dems are willing to extend it.
I'm surprised Disney didn't push/buy an extension under Trump's presidency when he controlled both chambers of Congress.

Sidenote:
Disney's Winnie-the-Pooh became public domain in 2022.
Result: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winnie-the-Pooh:_Blood_and_Honey
It made 50x profit, so there will be a sequel.
Hm... bestiality in Part2? :eek:

Happy 2024!
Steamboat Mickey is now public domain!

Also, Winnie's friend Tigger is also public domain.
I can see a sequel to Winnie's horror slasher movie with Tigger :eek:
 
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Tigger jumps Mickey and Mickey gut Tigger with a French Chef knife.
 

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Don't care that much about Mickey specifically, but works entering the public domain is a very good thing for history and cultural.

The most important thing about Mickey entering the public domain is we are unlikely to continue to make our copyright laws worse and maybe we can start making them better.

I work on old things and there is so much reference material that is still under copyright but completely abandoned that it is impossible to find those references and when you do it is a hard copy on interlibrary loan.
 
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Don't care that much about Mickey specifically, but works entering the public domain is a very good thing for history and cultural.

The most important thing about Mickey entering the public domain is we are unlikely to continue to make our copyright laws worse and maybe we can start making them better.

I work on old things and there is so much reference material that is still under copyright but completely abandoned that it is impossible to find those references and when you do it is a hard copy on interlibrary loan.
Also, all the derivative works society misses out on by these pretty ridiculous copyright periods. Think of the great fan fiction/retellings/reimaginations/movies we miss out on because everything is like 99 years or author life + a ridiculous time.
 

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Mickey's appearance has changed a lot over the years and from show to show. Basically this will free people to create derivative work of the original Mickey or straight up copy the original Mickey. But you can't make derivative work of newer Mickey's.

Just like any one can make a Little Mermaid movie, but it can't be a derivative of Disney's version.

Side note, if you look at the history of Disney, most of their IP are derivatives of other works, or figures from history. It is the height of hypocrisy that this company profits so much from using other IP's, but protects anything they may have created, even if it is derivative, with such fervor.

Pocahontas, Mulan, Snow White, The Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, or Aladdin and the Wonderful Lamp. Cool Fact: Aladdin is Chinese in the original story, or at least the earliest known versions of the story.
 

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Side note, if you look at the history of Disney, most of their IP are derivatives of other works, or figures from history. It is the height of hypocrisy that this company profits so much from using other IP's, but protects anything they may have created, even if it is derivative, with such fervor.

Pocahontas, Mulan, Snow White, The Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, or Aladdin and the Wonderful Lamp. Cool Fact: Aladdin is Chinese in the original story, or at least the earliest known versions of the story.
Don't forget Thor (and friends), Hercules (and friends), and other historical figures/myths converted into US Govt-defended IPs.