discussion on McCarthyism

[highwire]

 

[highwire]

From some old notes I made long after watching the Army-McCarthy hearings on a big 21 inch B&W. Boy, that was a while ago.

McCarthyism:
A term coined by a predominantly Jewish influenced academy and media to punish the memory of a less-than-perfect elected official for revealing to the public that extensive infiltration by communists had occurred and that, embarrassingly, a preponderance of them were jews.
Any questions?

I should add this for those that have not kept current. In the last 15 years or so, Soviet Army and KGB files, Vernona intercepts, etc., have revealed a penetration of the highest levels of the US government in the 30s, 40s, and 50s that was more extensive than anyone had dare suggest. Eisenhower, who pulled the rug out from under ol' Joe had the footprints of these same people leading right to his door.

Bottom line: History has proven that ol' "tail gunner Joe" McCarthy was more right than he could have known.

Well, that was then. This subject is "foreign influence in high government". I think there might be a similar contemporary situation to apply this old history to. Anyone want to guess what that might be?
Clue: My beloved country's good reputation has rather recently been all but destroyed by extensive activities of no practical benefit to it.

 

[Czar]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Oh and unless you think people are being accused of being terrorists - even your canard fails the similarity test. But hey, you can think what you wish...

CsG

like these Freepers?

http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:_3...posts+%22kerry+is+a+terrorist%22&hl=en

UH - how exactly does your link show a "terrorist - McCarthy" scenario? Oh, that's right - it doesn't. It's just a link to an internet forum where people were talking about a poll and voiced their opinions.

Nice try conjur.:roll:

CsG

the point went right past you

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: highwire
From some old notes I made long after watching the Army-McCarthy hearings on a big 21 inch B&W. Boy, that was a while ago.

McCarthyism:
A term coined by a predominantly Jewish influenced academy and media to punish the memory of a less-than-perfect elected official for revealing to the public that extensive infiltration by communists had occurred and that, embarrassingly, a preponderance of them were jews.
Any questions?

I should add this for those that have not kept current. In the last 15 years or so, Soviet Army and KGB files, Vernona intercepts, etc., have revealed a penetration of the highest levels of the US government in the 30s, 40s, and 50s that was more extensive than anyone had dare suggest. Eisenhower, who pulled the rug out from under ol' Joe had the footprints of these same people leading right to his door.

Bottom line: History has proven that ol' "tail gunner Joe" McCarthy was more right than he could have known.

Well, that was then. This subject is "foreign influence in high government". I think there might be a similar contemporary situation to apply this old history to. Anyone want to guess what that might be?
Clue: My beloved country's good reputation has rather recently been all but destroyed by extensive activities of no practical benefit to it.

So, Hollywood is part of the Highest Levels of the US Government? How could he possibly be more right than he had known? His focus was on the wrong side of the continent and the wrong people. He probably succeeded i helping the KGB more than anything.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Oh and unless you think people are being accused of being terrorists - even your canard fails the similarity test. But hey, you can think what you wish...

CsG

like these Freepers?

http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:_3...posts+%22kerry+is+a+terrorist%22&hl=en

UH - how exactly does your link show a "terrorist - McCarthy" scenario? Oh, that's right - it doesn't. It's just a link to an internet forum where people were talking about a poll and voiced their opinions.

Nice try conjur.:roll:

CsG

the point went right past you

Oh really? What exactly does it have to do with my statement then? A freaking poll and internet discussion is now a "witchhunt"? Get a clue.

CsG

 

[ciba]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: dannybin1742
ok so i've posted this question on many other threads in the hopes that someone from the right would answer it, but anyone can comment on their thoughts

What is McCarthyism?

Mccarthyism
n. practice of accusing citizens of being Communist or disloyal without proof (named after Sen. Joseph McCarthy); policy of using accusations or personal investigation to restrict political opposition

Originally posted by: dannybin1742
how did it arise?

how is today's social climate any different from McCArthyism and the Red scares of the 50s?

I've noticed that more than a few suppors of Bush and/ or the Iraq war are quick to accuse opponents of a lack of patriotism, or even that they are traitors. It's a way of neutralizing political opposition by questioning the integrity of your opponent. I also think the gay marriage panic that appears to be sweeping the US definitely has the air of a witch hunt. It's about people with vague, undefined fears choosing to pin those fears on a scapegoat, be it communists or homosexuals.

Spot on :thumbsup:

Viva La Bigots

Can you tell me how this is any diifferent than democrats calling anyone who doesn't bend their way with respect to minorities "racist."

 

[imported_Condor]

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: dannybin1742
ok so i've posted this question on many other threads in the hopes that someone from the right would answer it, but anyone can comment on their thoughts

What is McCarthyism?

Mccarthyism
n. practice of accusing citizens of being Communist or disloyal without proof (named after Sen. Joseph McCarthy); policy of using accusations or personal investigation to restrict political opposition

Originally posted by: dannybin1742
how did it arise?

how is today's social climate any different from McCArthyism and the Red scares of the 50s?

I've noticed that more than a few suppors of Bush and/ or the Iraq war are quick to accuse opponents of a lack of patriotism, or even that they are traitors. It's a way of neutralizing political opposition by questioning the integrity of your opponent. I also think the gay marriage panic that appears to be sweeping the US definitely has the air of a witch hunt. It's about people with vague, undefined fears choosing to pin those fears on a scapegoat, be it communists or homosexuals.

Yeah, Democrates Neeevvveer do that!

 

[gordanfreeman]

i dont think mccarthyism can be tied to the gay marriage debate much at all. the heart of it lies in the destruction or ignoring of civil liberties in order to carry out a witch hunt, more akin to the patriot act and the 'war on terror' than anything else in contemporary society. and no i see nothing of that kind going on by democrats, at least not to the extent that either mccarthy or bush jr has done.

 

[imported_Condor]

Originally posted by: gordanfreeman
i dont think mccarthyism can be tied to the gay marriage debate much at all. the heart of it lies in the destruction or ignoring of civil liberties in order to carry out a witch hunt, more akin to the patriot act and the 'war on terror' than anything else in contemporary society. and no i see nothing of that kind going on by democrats, at least not to the extent that either mccarthy or bush jr has done.

Forgotten Waco, have we?

 

[ciba]

Originally posted by: Condor

Originally posted by: gordanfreeman
i dont think mccarthyism can be tied to the gay marriage debate much at all. the heart of it lies in the destruction or ignoring of civil liberties in order to carry out a witch hunt, more akin to the patriot act and the 'war on terror' than anything else in contemporary society. and no i see nothing of that kind going on by democrats, at least not to the extent that either mccarthy or bush jr has done.

Forgotten Waco, have we?

While both parties are equally dirty, it is the "in" thing to only pay attention to the wrongs perpetrated by the other.

 

[Kibbo]

Originally posted by: Condor

Originally posted by: gordanfreeman
i dont think mccarthyism can be tied to the gay marriage debate much at all. the heart of it lies in the destruction or ignoring of civil liberties in order to carry out a witch hunt, more akin to the patriot act and the 'war on terror' than anything else in contemporary society. and no i see nothing of that kind going on by democrats, at least not to the extent that either mccarthy or bush jr has done.

Forgotten Waco, have we?

Hmm. . .

Wasn't that a group that was stockpiling weapons illegally, and then torched their own base when the ATF raided?

Could the ATF have done things differently? Sure. But I sure as heck don't feel comfortable with any group stockpiling heavy weapons, religious or otherwise. Strong action was needed.

I know that there were conspiracy theories that abounded at that time, has any more concrete evidence become generally accepted since then?

 

[ciba]

Originally posted by: Kibbo
I know that there were conspiracy theories that abounded at that time, has any more concrete evidence become generally accepted since then?

If Waco doesn't do it for you, how about Elian Gonzalez?

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: ciba

Originally posted by: Kibbo
I know that there were conspiracy theories that abounded at that time, has any more concrete evidence become generally accepted since then?

If Waco doesn't do it for you, how about Elian Gonzalez?

What about him? That was a custodial issue and his father had custodial rights.

 

[ciba]

Originally posted by: sandorski
What about him? That was a custodial issue and his father had custodial rights.

You're right. What about the raid? What about gassing his uncle's (?) neighbor's while standing in their yards?

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: ciba

Originally posted by: sandorski
What about him? That was a custodial issue and his father had custodial rights.

You're right. What about the raid? What about gassing his uncle's (?) neighbor's while standing in their yards?

From what I remember, there were threats of violence uttered by the family if any action were to be taken to get Ellian.