even though there are problems,
i don't think we should argue anymore,
.Originally posted by: Soundmanred
We still have no idea what you're saying.
Originally posted by: gersson
Originally posted by: Soundmanred
We still have no idea what you're saying.
Ok you can stop now. I'm going to recommend a lock.
i wonder why you ask this.
i was quite enthusiasted when first heard about the new MAPPER photolytoghraphy tool last week, though it's not fully understood corrently to open any thread about it.
ethusiast/experts, this has no relevance, if you'r interested in something and you had investigated it for a while,
i realy don't know what it means.
i don't think it should be laughed about, regardless of Mr.Perlman being the one that has invented the Web T.V and sold it over to microsoft for 500 million dollars..
yeah, thats an issue, though, submarine cables are being built, it doesn't seem that OnLive will take that great deal of the market through it's first 2 years,
We still have no idea what you're saying.
you'r great realyscrued,
told you you'll like it? and you said, no no, it wouldn't go, you just being influenced here :laugh:
sorry for the english though guys, everyone,
not speaking native
regards.
appreciate your post, Keysplayr,
just terribly sorry and greatly apologies for the broken english,
never thought it's that severe,
again, greatly apologies.
as for onlive,
it seems so much more than what people think/thought it is, and as one that have seen the potential in it,
it was burning to share it with others and discuss,
you'r concern and points are very well understood.
as from where this guy is from,
is all over, i never felt attached to any country or specific society,
nor to any system or goverment.
just as one person from the whole world the whole of mankind.
i tried to hide it, as to not raise some suspicious questions, but when you get at such forum, especially HT forum here at anandtech,
where there are very strong members with maybe the most comprehensive technological knowledge you can find,
without speaking it natively, it probably cannot be done,
they seem to have very penetrative minds, and notice every small sign,
english becomes much more diffcult as the converstaion goes deeper,
and so, you tend to stumble..
i think people were quit patient, and did an effort,
and i thank them for that.
i'd like, who havn't saw it yet, to take another look at the Akamai's site, (well this indeed sounds like a presentation),though,
they have a very nice tool there which can show some global internet usage stats,
pinging and traceroute through regular servers and they're's and even some graphical presentation on broadband spread throughout different continents, coming from they're 25,000 claimed dedicated servers from almost all around.
i think it might give people a stronger believe in these claims.
as an add, i'd like to show here another article, regarding a project that is aiming at changing the whole way that routers work,
in reference to some of the posters here,
with new routing tables which let you stream a video strait to the client, without the need to register every packet of it.
it's on the IEEE, and seems very interesting (havn't had yet the time to read it all through),
they claim it'll have much less errors, packet droppings etc.
http://spectrum.ieee.org/compu...s/a-radical-new-router
wholeheartly,
regards.
i don't think we should argue anymore,
one has to have a terribly large amount of knowledge to be able to estimate how it'll work,
without the specs release, without the pricing,
it's quite lost.
i think realyscrued has said i'm not being realistic, maybe i still don't know that much about it, i have taken it too perfectly (as there wasn't any remark against it),
though it was you who said, that there are people who percieve technology in a wider way, and that's why they are doubting, and being sceptical.
i can't come to these people and tell them "look, i know better", i simply can't have the capacity they have, even if i go read every computer related page on the internet,
the difference is that they have passed through it,
i only read about it...
but i don't want to believe, to take other people's word,
i'd like to check out myself.
u'r talking here to people that are working and are indulged in the "technological scope" for years over years,
they work in companies, deal with complexed sofwares & equipment,
people that basically swim in this world.
and some of them do manage to understand it quite well..
thats why i don't want to go further with OnLive, i think it'll have a bright future,
but there seems to be no necessity argueing about it any longer,
i think some of the guys here just get pissed off.. :laugh:
definetlly there are many things to count into that equation,
things that are very difficult to see corrently,
whether u'r an expert or you'r not,
things that change as life does,
so, we probably just have to sit aside, and watch how it goes
generaly, u can see where it leads,
i think people don't take all aspects of changes that accure into thought.
there seems to be no way of argueing them into seeing it,
they just either disregard it, or ignore it.
there are so many things i'd like to discuss about,
regarding the new flow control router, regarding internet infrastructure growth,
through eastern asia, australia, africa and so on,
i think many points could be brightened, lighteneted up,
i think it becomes more HT though.
there's also the new MAPPER tech for maskless photolythography, photon transportation and who knows what else.
many things,
it's a shame it's being (like that) turned off...
o.k, this comes as an addition to the OnLive thread at HT,
i'd like to show here some stats an Internet company called Akamai,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akamai_Technologies
one of it's founders was Daniel M. Lewin, a guy originaly from israel, i'd like you to read he's page, he died at the september 11th attacks on the world trade centers while being onboard one of the planes,
Lewin was an officer in Sayeret Matkal preior to he's studies, maybe the most elite IDF unit, one you hear many powerfull and heroic stories about,
i'd like to bid him with a bit of respect and pay a moment for he's memorial.
Akamai seems to be a leading internet analysis company, they're purpose is to create a much orginized web, by analaysing packets paths combined with it being mirrored by they're servers, they present a much faster interconnected internet.
i'd like to show some details at they're site,
http://www.akamai.com/html/technology/dataviz2.html
you got here a presentation of pinging between Chicago&Dallas,
some 800 miles away, giving only 24ms,
there was an intense arguement over the HT forum of whether OnLive will be able to broadcast over such distances as they have claimed,
this seems to show that it is possible and attainable, even with the corrent infrastructure,
if you orginize things, u can get a much better effect..
it seems promising,
seems great.
whatever,
u try to aproaching people but they just don't let you in.
as for being realistic,
i dpn't think i'm being unrealistic here, i think basically many people will go for it,
i think that many people don't mind paying a lot of money for new HW, internet, cable T.V, mobiles etc.
and OnLive wouldn't make any real difference.
the majority will sign in probably,
u got a lot of people throughout europe, the states, England,Japan & east Asia, big cities etc etc.
it seems to be taking off a lot of unnecessary headache.
it doesn't mean, all of the people will stop buying hardware, though i think it will become main stream in some 2-3 years.
i'm not going to argue about it any further, everything that could be said, i think, has already been said,
i think we proved that it is quite possible and they're claims are truthfull.
u can go through the original thread,
it has a lot of details,
you just have to pay attention to what is being said,
to get the feeling of it, which means to listen to it,
even above the words.
i'm not trying to persuade anyone, it seems as if it is just starting to go in circles.
i think basically, there is a great difference in the perception, and it comes into being in the structure of the language,
the way u talk in one language, the way one expresses him/herself is different, also the structure of the sentence which is again,
the structure of the language.
as for the grammer, you learn better when you go through things by you'rself, not doing it by any tool or any sided aid.
but u do say, u signed up for the Beta?
and that curiousity took u
if it was that bad as you did barely wanted to even view the presentation,
i'm not sure you would've gone for it,
i think eventually the thread has made some sense to you, i think basically u'r a good person, kind of crazy, with good ideas in mind,:l)
and you'r indeed not that hardened as you make u'r self look, or as u seem,
so you basically said, "why not, what can we lose?
we'll try it".
told u,
u'r kind of crazy
so it seems,
thats good.
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