discovery channel: civic vs talon

jjyiz28

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anyone see this?? it was an 1/8 mile, which totally favors the AWD talon, so i knew who was gonna win. if it was the 1/4 mile, the parasic loss would be more in effect for AWD talon, so it would have been more interesting.

who they hell races 1/8??
 

Cooljt1

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i would think the talon would win either one. the tsi had the same engine as the eclipse which was a 200 hp turbo awd or just a 200hp turbo depending on model
 

Doggiedog

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I was wondering the same thing. I was thinking it must be 1/8 of a mile bc they were doing 9 second times. No way they could make a Civic a 10 second car with the mods they put in.
 

Vortex22

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That show was so idiotic and disappointing.

First, who the hell runs 1/8? FWD vs AWD.. is there even any competition there?

They didn't really give any details at all what they were doing on the cars... just "were swapping the engine" "were putting nitrous in it".

The team that built the Civic did a MUCH more professional job and I think it would have burned the DSM in a 1/4 mile race.

Also, that girl was a noob driver.
 

Vortex22

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Oh yeah, I was also hoping that they would at least do a few runs, but the Talon busted an axle the first time through, heh.
 

VTEC01EX

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That girl was an idiot... posting her stuff all over the internet, bragging at the street race.. damn. Those guys built her a damn nice car, it's a shame it had to be covered in stickers. Also, she needs to learn to launch the car...
 

Vortex22

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You can see what the guys at Honda-Tech thought about that show here. :cool:

Apparently, that girl is a member there also hahah
 

StageLeft

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The real question is who would win the mile? The civic, because mitsubishis suck. The engine would surely blow by the 3/4.
 

Vic

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I saw parts of it. That show was horribly stupid, and the people in it seemed very misinformed about many things. Both cars were slow. It was a joke. Much like the OP.
As for running the 1/8 mile, lots of cars do it. The Talon would have won in the 1/4 too, and it would have won running a full mile too. It has more displacement and taller gearing (for a higher stock top speed) than a Civic.
Woohoo... a 4G63 vs. a B16, how can anyone doubt who would win, AWD or not?
 

Flyermax2k3

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Wow, look at all the ricers...
Sorry, I'll take an AWD DSM over a FWD POS any day of the week. You can have your FWD torque-less wonders, I'll take a real car ;)
I'm not saying Hondas can't be made fast, just that the majority of them simply aren't, and it takes far more work to make a Honda fast than it does a DSM. Don't give me any B.S. about "reliability" either. Reliability goes straight out the window when you start modding a vehicle, and is therefore not even relevant when discussing a contest of speed.
 

minendo

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Originally posted by: jjyiz28
anyone see this?? it was an 1/8 mile, which totally favors the AWD talon, so i knew who was gonna win. if it was the 1/4 mile, the parasic loss would be more in effect for AWD talon, so it would have been more interesting.

who they hell races 1/8??
Several IHRA tracks are only 1/8 mile tracks.

 

Kaervak

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I'm amazed how that show ever got approved. Let's take some street racing moron who has no problem risking his life and the life of anyone else on the road and make his car faster for free. And the chick's husband is a complete and utter asshole.
 

FuZoR

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i didnt see it..

i saw a commercial of it and LMAO i was like i bet they are gonna put stickers all over their cars :-( did they?
 

LAUST

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Originally posted by: jjyiz28
anyone see this?? it was an 1/8 mile, which totally favors the AWD talon, so i knew who was gonna win. if it was the 1/4 mile, the parasic loss would be more in effect for AWD talon, so it would have been more interesting.

who they hell races 1/8??
I wish we had an 1/8 mile here, that favors me a lot more also, that 2001 Lightning I beat by .001 I had him so much more 1/2 way down the track.

1/8 mile is also more realistic to a street race/grudge match

 

Demon-Xanth

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1/8th mile races aren't that uncommon since it's easier for budget minded people to compete. The lack of the need for high end stuff isn't as important and more focus is on the driver since the launch goes from king status to god status. I was suprised when I saw the opening with about 20LBs of stickers on the car, I just knew it couldn't be good.
 

Vortex22

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Originally posted by: FuZioN
i didnt see it..

i saw a commercial of it and LMAO i was like i bet they are gonna put stickers all over their cars :-( did they?

You bet. :D
 

jjyiz28

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Originally posted by: LAUST
Originally posted by: jjyiz28
anyone see this?? it was an 1/8 mile, which totally favors the AWD talon, so i knew who was gonna win. if it was the 1/4 mile, the parasic loss would be more in effect for AWD talon, so it would have been more interesting.

who they hell races 1/8??
I wish we had an 1/8 mile here, that favors me a lot more also, that 2001 Lightning I beat by .001 I had him so much more 1/2 way down the track.

1/8 mile is also more realistic to a street race/grudge match

who usually wins 1/8 mile, a stock WRX non sti, or a stock TT 94'ish supra?
 

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Originally posted by: jjyiz28
Originally posted by: LAUST
Originally posted by: jjyiz28
anyone see this?? it was an 1/8 mile, which totally favors the AWD talon, so i knew who was gonna win. if it was the 1/4 mile, the parasic loss would be more in effect for AWD talon, so it would have been more interesting.

who they hell races 1/8??
I wish we had an 1/8 mile here, that favors me a lot more also, that 2001 Lightning I beat by .001 I had him so much more 1/2 way down the track.

1/8 mile is also more realistic to a street race/grudge match

who usually wins 1/8 mile, a stock WRX non sti, or a stock TT 94'ish supra?

Supra. Not by as much as it should though. 1/4 is the Supra's race.
 

Tom

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This makes for a funny thread ! :D


Honda loses race , why, because it is slower !
 

Flyermax2k3

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Originally posted by: dtyn
Originally posted by: jjyiz28
Originally posted by: LAUST
Originally posted by: jjyiz28
anyone see this?? it was an 1/8 mile, which totally favors the AWD talon, so i knew who was gonna win. if it was the 1/4 mile, the parasic loss would be more in effect for AWD talon, so it would have been more interesting.

who they hell races 1/8??
I wish we had an 1/8 mile here, that favors me a lot more also, that 2001 Lightning I beat by .001 I had him so much more 1/2 way down the track.

1/8 mile is also more realistic to a street race/grudge match

who usually wins 1/8 mile, a stock WRX non sti, or a stock TT 94'ish supra?

Supra. Not by as much as it should though. 1/4 is the Supra's race.

No.......... He said 1/8 mile, not 1/4. The Supra is undoubtedly faster than the WRX in the 1/4, but AWD pwns that tractionless POS known as the Poopra in the 1/8 mile. Compare their 60' times and you'll see. The WRX usually runs 1.7-1.8 second 60 foot times, whereas the Poopra on street tires will be lucky to run less than a 2.2 second 60 foot. Half a second in the 1/8 mile means the race is already over. You would need massive amounts of power *and* traction to overcome such a disadvantage, especially in such a short period of time.
You don't have to believe me, do your own research and you'll find the same results as I have.