(Dis)Advantages of IE over Communicator??

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vlieps

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The only problem, to me, with NS nowadays is sloppily made homemade websites sometimes don't work

Well, thats not Netscape problem, but the MS Frontpage express problem. Seems like they have built in some kind of crap that only they know and not Netscape people, so they build it into IE and everyone thinks IE is better. So what is better - i can tell You- nothing. If they would completely follow web language rules, all pages could be displayed.

If You make a page with Dreamweaver, which is independent of those dorks at MS, every browser can display them.

This unfare business just drives me crazy.
 

sciencewhiz

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I keep many browsers around to test my webpages with. Just for kicks, I loaded stdn's test site with each of them and timed it with my watch. Since the starting and stopping is hard to do accurately, I rounded each to the nearest second. This is on a cable modem and win2k.

IE 5.5 9 secs
mozilla 0.9.6 7 secs
netscape 4.7 6 secs
netscape 3.04 4 secs
Opera 5.12 4 secs

edit: just downloaded Opera 6: 5 secs
 

Elledan

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<< mozilla crash less, but netscape crash more often than msie for me (or maybe because i use netscape more than msie? or because you're using netscape 6.x and i'm on netscape 4.78?)
but try to browse "certain sites" with lots of popups, and your browser will crash in no time ;)
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With Mozilla (which is my default browser in both Windows and Linux) you can disable any popups. It works very well.

It's very convenient when browsing 'certain sites' ;)

As for the 'remaining items' in the status bar, if you only need this function with 'certain sites' (again, *wink*), then you're probably unaware of the fact that you usually know how many images there are on one page :D
 

BeauJangles

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Netscape is slow-as-beans bloatware that only survives because people have an anti MS kick going right now. Honestly, IE is a nice trimmed down browser that does everything I want rather nicely. It loads fast, it's integrated right into the win2k/xp local browsing software, it's fast and pretty efficient... I have no reason to want to use netscape ever again.
 

stndn

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Agent004: well, i guess the criteria for "fast" depends on how you look at it ... but yah, you're right in that sense netscape is slow ....

elimcpheron: i keep track of those numbers myself... sometimes i forget the numbers, so i refer to the "today" page and see my post number from there

sciencewhiz: wow, thanks for the stats... so it looks like opera is the fastest of all? funny though how netscape 3.x loads faster than 4.x ... they should increase their web client performance rather than decrease them ...

BlinderBomber: partially true ... actually, the ms kicking have been around since long time ago :) ... and you'll want to still keep a copy of netscape if you're a webmaster and want your website to be compatible with users like us who keeps insisting on using "old" browser ;)

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Zebo

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<< [actually, the ms kicking have been around since long time ago :) ... - >>



I wonder why
 
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<<Well, thats not Netscape problem, but the MS Frontpage express problem. Seems like they have built in some kind of crap that only they know and not Netscape people, so they build it into IE and everyone thinks IE is better. If You make a page with Dreamweaver, which is independent of those dorks at MS, every browser can display them. ..

True and not true.

Frontpage is geared towards IE so pages tend to look better in IE by default. Dreamweaver doesn't play favorites, so pages "can" display the same in both browsers. For example, the still-commonly used "Netscape Browser Resize Fix" script menu option in Dreamweaver for Communicator 4.x browsers is one such compensation...but pages still tend to look better in IE by default.

The fact is, HTML was never designed to do the things the web designers want it to do. It's a rudimentary code and most page designs consist of various workarounds (like 1x1 pixel clear GIFs). Microsoft understands this and so IE bends and bends and bends too make pages look good. Netscape does not, will not, or can not. I don't know. I wish they'd either give up, get better quick, or get squashed by some other competitor because as long as people continue to use their inferior product, web page design will continue to be limited.

Oh, and I hope I didn't forget to dot my i's and cross my t's in this post because it may show up oddly in a Netscape browser.
 

ILikeSprite

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I dislike netscape because it cannot display half of the website i visit correctly and makes them look like ass!