Installed Dirt 2 last night via Steam, and I laughed a little when it installed GFWL, and I had both the Steam UI + the GFWL UI up at the same time in game.
LOL?
LOL?
GTA:IV is a joke in this way as well. GFWL, Steam and then every time it starts it tries to get me to sign up for Rockstar's Social Club thing. It's getting to the point where we're going to be signing into 32 things before we get to play our games. LoL
Is there anyway to play these kind of games without ever installing GFWL ?
What do you mean "these kinds of games"? The kinds of games that require GFWL? Surprisingly... no.
