Directions for installing the bolt thru kit?

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to remove those, you'd have to cut. is there a reason you need the backplate and bolt-through mounting? i ask because the cooler is not all that heavy.
 

emblem

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http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=2144053&enterthread=y

That is why. I'm getting temps when using Core Temp of .96 of 44C on stock everything with my E2200 and A CM690 case. I've reseated my heatsink multiple times with AS5 and the MX that the AC7 comes with.

Maybe it's my case air flow but I don't know. The only part of my case that has a lot of wires would be the bottom.

http://i41.photobucket.com/alb...Sinical1/CM690_002.jpg

Pretty much all my 4 pin connectors are at that bottom part. I don't have a fan there or anything like that.
 

emblem

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Well about CoreTemp.

CoreTemp .96 gives me the high temps of 46C while .96.1 gives me 30C

It's because the Tjuntion Max of the .96.1 is 85 while .96 is 100

I don't know which to believe.

So ya, I plan to also order a infrared thermometer and see for myself.
 
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save your money, the IR thermometer won't give you an accurate result.
1. what you're trying to measure is under a hunk of metal
2. the temperature of that metal is lower than the chip
3. IR thermometers are good for big things, not small things. i have one that's about as good as it gets without spending a ton of money, and it reads in an 8:1 cone. 8" away = 1" circle, 16" away = 2" circle

if .96 gives a funky result, and .96.1 gives a decent result, then go with .96.1. it sounds like you're doing everything properly.
 

emblem

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I just OC'd my 2200 to 2.42
At idle I am getting 49C(.96)
Using orthos for 30 minutes I was getting 68C in .96 and 54C in .96.1

I set the settings to show "Delta to Tjuntion max temp"

Using that on both versions of coretemp it shows that at idle it's 51C to Tjunction max remaining

So on Coretemp .96 T junction max of 100
Idle 49C
51C to Tjunction max remaining

Coretemp .96.1 Tjunction max of 85
Idle 34C
51C to Tjunction max remaining

I'm guessing that what that tells me is my temperatures are in some way even.

I hear a lot of people say that over 65C is bad. So that means with a T junction of 100, 65C would be
45C to Tjunction max remaining.

So my goal should be to have my Tjunction max be at 45 or better?
 

DerwenArtos12

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Originally posted by: emblem
I just OC'd my 2200 to 2.42
At idle I am getting 49C(.96)
Using orthos for 30 minutes I was getting 68C in .96 and 54C in .96.1

I set the settings to show "Delta to Tjuntion max temp"

Using that on both versions of coretemp it shows that at idle it's 51C to Tjunction max remaining

So on Coretemp .96 T junction max of 100
Idle 49C
51C to Tjunction max remaining

Coretemp .96.1 Tjunction max of 85
Idle 34C
51C to Tjunction max remaining

I'm guessing that what that tells me is my temperatures are in some way even.

I hear a lot of people say that over 65C is bad. So that means with a T junction of 100, 65C would be
45C to Tjunction max remaining.

So my goal should be to have my Tjunction max be at 45 or better?

65 is ok, it's not good but not really at the bad point. 70C is where you should never go over as the IHS will become unstable above 73C for any prolonged period of time but, to be safe I'd say 45+ is a good way to go.
 

VirtualLarry

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Originally posted by: DerwenArtos12
65 is ok, it's not good but not really at the bad point. 70C is where you should never go over as the IHS will become unstable above 73C for any prolonged period of time but, to be safe I'd say 45+ is a good way to go.
What do you mean the IHS will become unstable? My E2140s are at 85C 24/7 and are rock solid. (CoreTemp 0.96 measurement)

I'm still under the 73C max Tcase Intel specification too, so I figure I'm good.
 

DerwenArtos12

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Originally posted by: VirtualLarry
Originally posted by: DerwenArtos12
65 is ok, it's not good but not really at the bad point. 70C is where you should never go over as the IHS will become unstable above 73C for any prolonged period of time but, to be safe I'd say 45+ is a good way to go.
What do you mean the IHS will become unstable? My E2140s are at 85C 24/7 and are rock solid. (CoreTemp 0.96 measurement)

I'm still under the 73C max Tcase Intel specification too, so I figure I'm good.

Theoretically, the silicon "weld" that holds the IHS to the package is advertised to become unstable at 73C. According to an engineer with one of the packaging companies for intel, they're stable to 200F with their manufacturing process but, he cannot speak for any of the other packagers as intel uses 3 or 4 now. Intel only fabs the cores themselves in house and out-sources some if not most of it's packaging to other companies.
 

MadScientist

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Originally posted by: emblem
http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=2144053&enterthread=y

That is why. I'm getting temps when using Core Temp of .96 of 44C on stock everything with my E2200 and A CM690 case. I've reseated my heatsink multiple times with AS5 and the MX that the AC7 comes with.

Maybe it's my case air flow but I don't know. The only part of my case that has a lot of wires would be the bottom.

http://i41.photobucket.com/alb...Sinical1/CM690_002.jpg

Pretty much all my 4 pin connectors are at that bottom part. I don't have a fan there or anything like that.
There were specific instructions on Thermalright's site for removing the plastic pins but since they upgraded their site it's not available. If you're not going to keep the pins then as TBD suggested cut them off. If you want to save them then gently lift the 2 plastic tabs on either side of the pin and pull the center part out, rotate the body and pull it out of the hole.

 

Midnight Rambler

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You sure you don't have the HSF installed wrong ? Normally like to exhaust heat out the back of the case with the HS fan.