Direct X 10

[bryanW1995]

Originally posted by: aka1nas
Did you actually try upgrading your drivers? For pretty much all of the Dx10 releases out so far, Nvidia has had a driver revision out almost immediately after the game was available that drastically improved Dx10 performance and/or image quality.

hold on, are you actually claiming that nvidia has strong driver support??? really?

 

[bryanW1995]

Originally posted by: stnicralisk

Originally posted by: stureandre
Ok..

I'm getting kinda sick of reading all these review and oither info about DX 10. So all the previous info before it was released said it was going to save gaming and make it faster, while increasing picture quality. And what do we see? Even with Nvidia's fantastic 8800 series and ATI 2900 XT we get crap performance. No hiding it. Even though the picture quality is practially the same.. Very small difference.

The problem come in when people say that it is the HARDWARE's fault. COME ON!! IT IS NOT HARDWARE, IT'S CRAPPY SOFTWARE! IT's always crappy software.

For arguments sake, let us say that DX 10 picture quality is 100% and DX9 is 90%.. Assuming that DX 10 is now 10% better on average, it cost 50% performance..

Does anyone see anything wrong with these numbers?
It brings nothing to quality scene. Ok.. Better bump-mapping, some better smoke and stuff like that, but nothing revolutionary. And this should cut performance in half.. maybe more?

If I can get 100 fps in a game with DX9, then turn on DX10 with almost no improvements in the picture quality and then end up with 50 fps average, I truly hope I'm not the only one seing that there is something seriously wrong here. And I doubt that it is AMD/ATI or nVIDIA's fault. They make grat cards that are MORE than fast enough for DX9. DX 10 sucks and it needs to be fixed. Just to play Call of Juarez, Company of Heroes, of Lost Planet I should not have to upgrade to the new chip that comes this fall.. Performance should actually be FASTER with DX 10. Not half the speed of the original..

I could accept a 10% drop in fps initially untill they refined the sotware a little, but there is no sign of improvement at that front. The drivers can only do so much. MS and game companies need to take immidiate action and shape up and make their stuff properly from the get-go!

Of course there is the marketing thing going on in the background, but we as consumers need to take action and choose not to take it up the ***.

Anyways... Though I share some thoughts on the subject. Please let me know what you guys think. If you think I'm wrong let me know, convince me otherwise.

100 is really not 10% better than 90, 99 is 10% better than 100, 100 is closer to 11.11111111111111111111111..........% (11 and 1/9%)

This just highlights a problem with our children's education these days. OP is clearly a child, and, in his defense, it is entirely possible that he hasn't gotten to division yet. Assuming he has, he is just too lazy to "do the math" and would prefer to rant and rave about corporate business decisions made by people who WORK. How many hours per week do you work, stureandre? Do you have a couple of kids and a wife to feed? Don't get me wrong, M$ pisses me off just as much as the next guy, but I don't blame them for trying to make money. Do you hate apple b/c they charge $599 for an iphone? M$ can make a ton of money b/c people the world over have chosen their os over any other.

 

[stureandre]

OK.. so what if I rant a little bit. Deal with it.
I should be able to post my opinion, as you should be able to post yours.

I reserve my right to disagree with a lot of what's out there. the previous fps thing with the divisions and all that crap.. who cares if my match sucks. It's a conceptual example.. Nothing more.

An no.. I do not work. I've gone to college for the last 5 years.
But to be quite honest, I love MS. They work hard and make stuff that work, I just dont like Vista that much. The fact that Windows works with practically everything is amazing.
But I should still be able to complain of the things that I don't like. If I'm goign to shell out for a couple houndred bucks for an OS, I should be statisfied with what I get. And with Vista.. I really dont want to pay for it. At least not yet.


Edit: Minor spelling

 

[Matt2]

Personally, I love Vista.

You say it's bloated, I say it's easy to use. You say it's slow, I say it's just as fast under DX9.

Vista even lets me run all my favorite Win95/98 games from back in the day without a hitch. Under XP, these games refused to run correctly or run at all.

I think Vista itself is ready for prime time. If Nvidia can keep fine tuning the drivers, I dont see any reason anyone should keep XP.