Direct TV or Dish?

Anubis

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Thinking of dumping TWC cable because it costs too damn much.

only options are to go to sat.

Is there any reason Dish costs so damn much vs Direct TV? the top packages seem nearly the same yet Dish is 30$ more expensive per month (base price). Am i missing something?

the reason it has to be the top package is its the only one that includes Fox Soccer Chan, both have it in HD as well
 

Modelworks

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They both will offer promotions so be sure to check what the price is when the promotion is over.
They also like to hit you with $5 for HD, $5 for receiver, $5 for additional receiver and all of that starts to add up quick. You never own the equipment with either one of them so don't buy any used receivers as you can get stuck with a useless box.

I have had both systems and decided to drop all paid tv for just an OTA setup with a pc based DVR. Everything else I get online.
 

Anubis

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both seem to be doing. free HD for life. and yea I figured there would be a box fee. but even after that I don't think dtv will be over 115 a month which is what twc costs now

OTA isn't really an option in boonieville
 
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Modelworks

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It is really a shame the way satellite tv has ended up. It is becoming more and more monopolized like anything else. Now we have just 2 providers and the prices show what happens when that is allowed.

Motorola announced last month that they were dropping support for c-band systems, which was the greatest thing for tv and people that wanted it cheap. Currently with c-band I could get every single channel both dish and direct offer + more for $425 a year and the picture quality would be better than anything they or cable offer because you are watching the same streams that the providers like hbo uplink without compression. The reason is anyone could sell the packages . I remember about 5 years ago when there was about 30 different companies offering c band channel subscriptions. Oh well, no use crying over it.
 

murphy55d

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I dumped Dish for Direct and haven't looked back. YMMV as always but the only thing Dish had over Direct was the multi-room DVR and now Direct has that too.

If you want a referral for DirecTV let me know, we'll both get $10 off a month for 10 months. :)
 

smitbret

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I dumped Dish for Direct and haven't looked back. YMMV as always but the only thing Dish had over Direct was the multi-room DVR and now Direct has that too.

If you want a referral for DirecTV let me know, we'll both get $10 off a month for 10 months. :)

My mileage varied. I was with Dish for about three years until I bought an HD tv and switched to DirecTV. I kept DirecTV for about 8 days before I cancelled and went back to Dish. At the time (about 18 months ago) DirecTV's DVR setup was so inferior to Dish, the situation with the local channels was so bad with DirecTV and my experience with their sales and service departments was so bad that it was worth the $400 to get out of it. I called Dish back and told them I made a horrible mistake and they bent over backward to get me back and give me a cherry deal on programming.

I went to the websites and set up comparable packages (Dish - America Everything vs. DirecTV - Premier). I assumed one HD tv and an SD tv setup for a second room. This is what I could figure out.

DirecTV - To get SD DVR on the second tv, it will cost an additional $99 up front with DirecTV. In order to get the promo pricing on the DirecTV Premier package, you have to agree to buy NFL Sunday Ticket. Bottom Line, your first five payments are $66.99, followed by 19 payments of $121.99 + taxes. If the NFL is important........?

Dish - $70.89 with the $15.00/month credit, but it only lasts for the first 12 months. No money upfront (other than the monthly fee). You'll have 12 more payments at roughly $86, but no NFL Sunday ticket.

For both, most of the fees for HD/DVR/Local/not being connected to the internet, etc. seem to have been eliminated and now they're getting more creative with packaging and pricing. Some people say that DirecTV's HD is a better quality HD, but in my brief experience, I couldn't tell the difference. I also have an OTA antenna and I can't tell the difference between the OTA and Sat locals. Dish does have several channels like MTV that are HD only part of the time. I haven't really found it to be bothersome, since they seem to figure out when it's important to have the channels in HD versus SD and can flip the switch. Dish also likes to "go to the mat" with different channels on occasion so you could wake up one day and find that none of the Disney channels are available in HD until their contract is renegotiated. They always seem to get it worked out, but you could be without an HD channel or two for a few months while it's worked out. I've seen it happen on a few occasions , but never with a channel I really cared about. Dish has a higher capacity DVR.

In a nutshell, if you are willing to pay in the long run, DirecTV will give you a more consistent product. If you can put up with a little inconvenience here and there, Dish will save you money in the long run. I've also had really great luck with Dish's customer service. They always seem to find a way to adequately compensate for any perceived shortcomings, as long as my expectations have been reasonable. DirecTV seemed to have a "That's the way it is" attitude. You'll have fewer concerns with DirecTV.

Both have their pluses and minuses. You just need to decide which channels and packages you really want and go from there. I'm with Dish. ESPN and Comedy Central are always on look great. My DVR works great for any tv with only one box. I have all the channels I want and I'm paying about $60/months with Dish.

Good luck.
 
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Anubis

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thanks for the post smitbret. ive been digging through as much of each of them as i can on their respective sites and did notice the price jump with direct TV after 6 months. actually jumps to more then what TWC is currently however you do get more. Dish doesnt lay out each months payment as well but from what i can tell it stays very close to what is shown on the site. 99.99 with the first year at 84.99.

i really don't care about NFL Sunday ticket. and TBH i would remove it but it doesn't seem like you can.

Dish is looking like the better deal current

Everything package + Free HD for life + Everything Sports package (Getting NESN is fucking awesome) + 2 HD DVRs is showing up as $86/month for the 1st 12 months and then i'm assuming $101 for the next 12 after the discount runs out. with 100 upfront for the receiver upgrade

current TWC bill is about 175 a month and includes 45$ for Internet which would jump to 55 if i canceled cable. however i could drop it back to 45 by downgrading from turbo which i don't really need. and i don't even have a DVR with TWC as it would be 20$ more a month for 2 of them
 

smitbret

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thanks for the post smitbret. ive been digging through as much of each of them as i can on their respective sites and did notice the price jump with direct TV after 6 months. actually jumps to more then what TWC is currently however you do get more. Dish doesnt lay out each months payment as well but from what i can tell it stays very close to what is shown on the site. 99.99 with the first year at 84.99.

i really don't care about NFL Sunday ticket. and TBH i would remove it but it doesn't seem like you can.

Dish is looking like the better deal current

Everything package + Free HD for life + Everything Sports package (Getting NESN is fucking awesome) + 2 HD DVRs is showing up as $86/month for the 1st 12 months and then i'm assuming $101 for the next 12 after the discount runs out. with 100 upfront for the receiver upgrade

current TWC bill is about 175 a month and includes 45$ for Internet which would jump to 55 if i canceled cable. however i could drop it back to 45 by downgrading from turbo which i don't really need. and i don't even have a DVR with TWC as it would be 20$ more a month for 2 of them

Whoops, I posted some bad info, here.
 

murphy55d

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Anubis, I noticed you mentioned the everything sports pack. Keep in mind those channels will be blacked out during games unless you are in the regional broadcast area of that channel. For instance, in my case, the only one which would not be blocked out is Fox Sports Pittsburgh, as that is my local one. I would get, say, Fox Sports Detroit, but during Red Wings/Pistons/Tigers games, it is off the air. To get out-of-market games you would be required to get NFL Sunday/NHL Center Ice, etc.

Just something to keep in mind if that's a selling point.
 

Anubis

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not everything sports the Multy sports one and the only reason for that is to get NESN so i can see all the redsox games. literally its the only channel in there id watch. now if NESN would be blacked out because i live in NY then fuck that

multy sports includes these

* ALTITUDE SPORTS & ENTERTAINMENT
* ALTITUDE SPORTS & ENTERTAINMENT HD
* Big Ten Network
* Big Ten Network HD
* ESPN CLASSIC
* Mid-Atlantic Sports Network
* Mid-Atlantic Sports Network Alternate
* MSG
* MSGPLUS
* NBA TV
* NEW ENGLAND SPORTS NETWORK
* NEW ENGLAND SPORTS NETWORK HD
* NFL NETWORK
* NFL NETWORK HD
* NFL REDZONE
* NFL REDZONE HD
* NHL Network
* Regional Sports Network(s) (based on your location)
* SPORTS ALTERNATE
* SportsNet New York
* SportsTime Ohio
* SUN SPORTS
 

poofyhairguy

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DirectTV is better (MUCH better if you are aNFL football fan)

Dish costs less money

I value TV more than most things, so I am DirectTV person. My grandparents, who only have any sort of cable to just get Fox News, is on Dish.
 

Anubis

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yea i really couldn't care less about NFL Football or college football for that matter

whatever is showing on fox or whatever on Sunday is fine
 

IcePickFreak

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I have no experience with Dish, but have had DirecTV for about 10 years now without issue. I did try out Uverse last year just to see if the grass was greener, but told them to come get their shit within 2 weeks and hooked up my DirecTV back up (didn't cancel it just in case). I will add that their customer service is great as well, at least in my experiences.
 

Emulex

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directv receiver sucks butt compared to dish (922/722).

big time.

slooow. no 1080p guide (text size). did i mention slow? broken dlna. no sling. no google-tv . dish is going to kick arse by end of year.
 

murphy55d

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Anubis, if its not your local regional sports network, then yes, it will be blacked out.

The only way to get Sox games in NY is MLB Extra Innings.
 

Malak

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DirecTV - To get SD DVR on the second tv, it will cost an additional $99 up front with DirecTV. In order to get the promo pricing on the DirecTV Premier package, you have to agree to buy NFL Sunday Ticket. Bottom Line, your first five payments are $66.99, followed by 19 payments of $121.99 + taxes. If the NFL is important........?

None of that is correct. You get up to 4 SD receivers free, or even a DVR or HD-DVR free as well. NFL Sunday Ticket is not necessary for any promotions, it's a secondary option. All promotions are good for 1 full year except for the case of free movie channels, which is why premiere gets a bigger special the first 5 months. If you have AT&T for home phone service, you also get an additional $5 knocked off permanently since they are partners.

The DVRs work better for Dish, but that is the only advantage I am aware of. From my experience, DTV is more popular than Dish. The few complaints I've heard about DTV had nothing to do with their actual service. At one time I was selling dishes for both companies and always suggested DTV to customers when choosing a provider because DTV was leading in advancements with their service, and now I sell exclusively DTV service. I'm not biased for any other reason, I don't personally use the service nor will I ever. I don't plan on paying for TV.
 

kornphlake

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When I priced it out a few years ago Dish was cheaper, but we don't watch sports at all. We had cable for a while while we lived in an apartment and didn't have any options then when we bought our home I started shopping around again, Dish came out cheaper again, but we did loose a couple of channels that cable offered. It was a matter of cost not a matter of how much TV I could watch.
 

smitbret

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None of that is correct. You get up to 4 SD receivers free, or even a DVR or HD-DVR free as well. NFL Sunday Ticket is not necessary for any promotions, it's a secondary option. All promotions are good for 1 full year except for the case of free movie channels, which is why premiere gets a bigger special the first 5 months. If you have AT&T for home phone service, you also get an additional $5 knocked off permanently since they are partners.

My info was just based on the offers available on the website. I'm sure something else could be worked out since pretty much everything in life is negotiable.
 

gar655

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Dish CS sucks. DTV CS has been exceptional. Plus out here in HI Dish treats us as if we are in a foreign country, charging us the same for far less than what you get in the mainland.

DTV gives us the exact same channels for the same price.
 

smitbret

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Dish CS sucks. DTV CS has been exceptional. Plus out here in HI Dish treats us as if we are in a foreign country, charging us the same for far less than what you get in the mainland.

DTV gives us the exact same channels for the same price.

My experience with customer service has been exactly the opposite. In fact, it was worth the $400 early termination penalty for me to get rid of DirecTV and go back to Dish.

That being said, you'll find people for both sides. If you search around, you'll find that Dish, traditionally, has a little better customer service, but DirecTV has really gotten a lot better in the last couple of years. I don't believe there's any real measurable difference in customer service between the two anymore.
 

Anubis

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Figured id update this, getting ready to pull the trigger and go with dish. Basically i'm waiting to see what happens on Sept 2nd with TWC and ESPN. however the total shit quality on FSC right now is enough for me to swap, i have VHS tapes from the 80s that look better
 

smitbret

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Figured id update this, getting ready to pull the trigger and go with dish. Basically i'm waiting to see what happens on Sept 2nd with TWC and ESPN. however the total shit quality on FSC right now is enough for me to swap, i have VHS tapes from the 80s that look better

What's happening on Spet 2nd with ESPN? What is FSC? Fox Sports- Colorado? You're freaking me out, man.
 

Anubis

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FSC = Fox Soccer Channel, TWC doesnt carry it in HD where i live, and the SD feed is total shit

i live in upstate NY. right now TWC carries FSC in a few select markets

Remember last year when TWC almost dropped fox because of money. well its happening again with Disney. Disney owns ESPN. Disney family of channels will get dropped if a deal isn't reached by Sept 1st

http://rolloverorgettough.com/
 
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